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Well if I were trying to Max my effiency then ya it's a horrible job.

Plants are looking great so far, an they look like they will produce more then I need. With all this light (even how I have it) the buds are generally much better looking then I'm used to.

I'm more concerned with my buds then the power it takes to get them finished, my goal for this is has NEVER been thought of on a gram per watt basis.

You'll just have to take my word that the temps are ok, an since I'm here reading the temps an you guys are just guessing.... :)
 
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day 30 from 12/12 the buds are looking a bit frosty and the mass is coming on fast, Im having a amazing time watching them grow its just filling me with joy to see my hard work paying off. some plants are better then others in the room (im running about 8 strains in 12 plants) so i get the headache of some plants burning from nutes and others begging for more. the burning is minimal though and a few days straight water will clear it right up. these pics are of my plants that are not in the SCRoG. they will likely need to be staked up in random ways but they were my "control" batch in my SCRoG test run. 8 plants in a scrog and 4 just growing up. I think the SCRoG has prooven to me its benefits and its not as hard as i thought it would be.
 

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growingforfun said:
i just bought a 250$ 12,000 btu window unit. it was the most powerful costco sold. that was to replace the best one i could find at walmart. im considering cutting a hole in the door and using a portable a/c to allow even more cold air; however, i dont feel like doing room construction during flower. next cycle i can just put in one less plant and ill have room to put in 2 window units and save myself troubles.

at this point im not worried about g/watt ratios, those "on/off" lights are positioned for quality reasons (bud density and trich production) and the "on" lights are focused on making a good footprint. maybe the plants will gain from the bursts more then not having them at all is all
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Great job man looking good, however you do realize that if you hooked up some ducting and an inline fan to those hoods you could remove about 75% of the heat those lights produce, just cut a hole right in the sealing and mount the inline fan in it (exhausting into the attic), of course you'll need a carbon filter or ozone generator to remove the smell but totally worth it, if you did that you probably wouldn't even need another AC unit. Also, I would highly recommend adding a 400W ceramic metal halide over a regular metal halide, much wider spectrum and produces better results, ask anyone who has used them. Good job and keep us posted.
 
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Great job man looking good, however you do realize that if you hooked up some ducting and an inline fan to those hoods you could remove about 75% of the heat those lights produce, just cut a hole right in the sealing and mount the inline fan in it (exhausting into the attic), of course you'll need a carbon filter or ozone generator to remove the smell but totally worth it, if you did that you probably wouldn't even need another AC unit. Also, I would highly recommend adding a 400W ceramic metal halide over a regular metal halide, much wider spectrum and produces better results, ask anyone who has used them. Good job and keep us posted.
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thanks for your imput however since i am renting i can not alter much and cutting holes would be a bitch to explain lol. also this is a duplex so i have people close by, i dont want them wondering why there attic smells like herbs. how i have it is very nice, i know people love vented hoods but i am not convinced they are the best bet for every situation, im still a bit fan of them and maybe even next grow i will use it that way. i have 2 different 8 inch fans and all the ducting i could need, things just worked best this way this time. i have a carbon filter filtering the room itself and it contains it all. i feel nice and safe like this and heat is not a issue (still the heat worries?)

i dont know why you advise a 400 watt CMH over my 2 1000 watt MH, i really dont feel like buying more lights and i feel i have plenty of watts burning. i have both hps and mh so i think its as full on the light waves as they need =)
 
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ns plants ,looks very healthy.could run inline fan and ducting to a foiled up widnow,vent there.,if yure in a dup. gonna reak soon.and vent the room ,exchange the air room throughthe inline fan cooling all the lights and get the heat out of te growroom,,not cut out holes..:leaf:rdr.
 
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ns plants ,looks very healthy.could run inline fan and ducting to a foiled up widnow,vent there.,if yure in a dup. gonna reak soon.and vent the room ,exchange the air room throughthe inline fan cooling all the lights and get the heat out of te growroom,,not cut out holes..:leaf:rdr.
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this is a good tip, i really haddent thought of doing thing before and its a method i may use in the future. for now its more important to have a really normal looking window though, maybe next time around i can figure out a different way but for a few reasons fans blowing air out the window like that is currently not possible, one being it would blow air directly into our faces because that window is 10 ft from our hang out spot in the back yard around a campfire.
 
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i've rented and did 2 to a room and used windows as venting.the ducting goin to the cieling was removed.


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ya i know how to duct things thats what iv done the most of i just wanted to give it a go without the glass as iv said a few times already =) im not really looking for pointers i guess.....
 
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ScoobyDoobyDoo said:
i never understood the guys who came here and posted questions or wanted comments and then spent all their time arguing the advice they were given. maybe i'm getting to old for this forum shit...:-P
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Naw just every grower knows everything. This guy is probably 40 something like my buddy's uncle who grows. Can't yield enough to even break even but when you give your opinion it's wrong. Because he is intelligent and obviously knows more than us stoners. OP have fun, I'll see your gear on Craigslist in a few months you know it all clown.
 
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before i go GF,yu use was lucky yu had guys like this stop by ,outside mysef ,few good educated growers here, get big yields.rdr.
 
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while i may have offended some of you i think it is because your egos are so large you cant stand your advise to not be taken, not that i am unable to take it. the vast majority of the "help" or "advise" i was given was silly to try to do mid grow. next grow i may change it up but doing all that is unneeded stress to a plant. may as well tell me to go buy a house and move grow rooms before harvest while your at it. what if i dont have another 1k$ to buy this guys brand A/C? well i guess my plants wont grow.. fact it the A/C i have in there works great. buds look good too if im not mistaken..

many of you said i need to vent my hoods, while i said i have done that every time in the past and wanted to try it out without the glass (to test something i read on this forum and to the advise of members here no less) and when i manage to do that at a average of over 50 watt per sq ft and my temps are great i decide to add another 2200 watts 75% of the time and i SUDDENLY have everyone up in arms about me hurting my plants and reducing light when they need it most. well to that i say FUCK OFF. most people dont even run half these watts in a same size room. raider posted saying he did 2k in a room. WOW ok so im doing 3x what you did but i suck...?

dont get it wrong guys im not trying for a gram per watt or even a half gram per watt. im going for 3 lbs, and thats a average of like .18/watt or something really low. im throwing lots of light at it because i want at least 3 lbs. that would give me plenty to last everything i need. anything more then the 3 lbs is great and makes for a blessing. but saying im gonna end up posting my stuf on CL is just dumb... iv done too many grows and dont plan to stop any time soon. i generally run in the 1kw range so a lb gets me by fine, still think i cant manage with whatever i get and will be forced to quit? oh please...

after all that maybe i should say the type of things i would call constructive criticism: comments about nute issues after looking at the pictures of my plants. maybe a burn or tip about some additive. maybe ask a question about something im feeding them or advise on other CHANGABLE aspects of the grow.

i admit there was something a guy said on the first page about my lights that i typed a poor response to (a incorrect response at that) but it was pretty trivial and easy to change and boailed down to switching a vertical bulb for one in a reflector. but thats about it as far as true advise iv seen so far... 1 post in 4 pages of mainly people ranting i need to vent my hoods or buy a diff brand A/C after i repeatedly said temps are no issue... to those of you who leave : good riddance. :wall:

any who stay... maybe we can all enjoy some pics of buds together while they continue the trip to ripeness. :leaf::leaf::clap::leaf::leaf:
 
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while i may have offended some of you i think it is because your egos are so large you cant stand your advise to not be taken, not that i am unable to take it. the vast majority of the "help" or "advise" i was given was silly to try to do mid grow. next grow i may change it up but doing all that is unneeded stress to a plant. may as well tell me to go buy a house and move grow rooms before harvest while your at it. what if i dont have another 1k$ to buy this guys brand A/C? well i guess my plants wont grow.. fact it the A/C i have in there works great. buds look good too if im not mistaken..

many of you said i need to vent my hoods, while i said i have done that every time in the past and wanted to try it out without the glass (to test something i read on this forum and to the advise of members here no less) and when i manage to do that at a average of over 50 watt per sq ft and my temps are great i decide to add another 2200 watts 75% of the time and i SUDDENLY have everyone up in arms about me hurting my plants and reducing light when they need it most. well to that i say FUCK OFF. most people dont even run half these watts in a same size room. raider posted saying he did 2k in a room. WOW ok so im doing 3x what you did but i suck...?

dont get it wrong guys im not trying for a gram per watt or even a half gram per watt. im going for 3 lbs, and thats a average of like .18/watt or something really low. im throwing lots of light at it because i want at least 3 lbs. that would give me plenty to last everything i need. anything more then the 3 lbs is great and makes for a blessing. but saying im gonna end up posting my stuf on CL is just dumb... iv done too many grows and dont plan to stop any time soon. i generally run in the 1kw range so a lb gets me by fine, still think i cant manage with whatever i get and will be forced to quit? oh please...

after all that maybe i should say the type of things i would call constructive criticism: comments about nute issues after looking at the pictures of my plants. maybe a burn or tip about some additive. maybe ask a question about something im feeding them or advise on other CHANGABLE aspects of the grow.

i admit there was something a guy said on the first page about my lights that i typed a poor response to (a incorrect response at that) but it was pretty trivial and easy to change and boailed down to switching a vertical bulb for one in a reflector. but thats about it as far as true advise iv seen so far... 1 post in 4 pages of mainly people ranting i need to vent my hoods or buy a diff brand A/C after i repeatedly said temps are no issue... to those of you who leave : good riddance. :wall:

any who stay... maybe we can all enjoy some pics of buds together while they continue the trip to ripeness. :leaf::leaf::clap::leaf::leaf:
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Nice grow man,Great room.
You dont need the newest shit out on the market. Its just a weed
 
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I noticed a bit of bleaching on one plant so I'm going to reduce the light for a few days in that area by turning off my MH lights in the room. I think that the reduction of 2kw will remove any stress the plant was under but leaves lots of light still. I figure I have plenty of light an don't wanna create problems at this point in flower. (light to come back in a few days I promise lol...)

I also set off a pyrithian tr fogger, seasoned growers I know produce great smoke using them up to week 4.5 and I'm confident the plants have plenty of time to be rid of it. I was noticing small amounts of damage on one plant and would like to avoid webs. The cold nights seem to help keep them from breeding much as well...

Today is day 35 counting from the day I reduced light to under 18 hours :) pics to follow in moments...
 
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heres those pics, again the plants on the left side of the room are growing naturally, (many branches could use support) and the other side of the room is in a SCRoG.
next grow i plan to thin up the bottems a bit more and truly get rid of everything not clipped to the screen since im getting a fair bit of branches that cant support the weight they hold.
 

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the buds are getting nice and dense, the large number of strains this time has given me a good look at what to run next time. some plants are clearly looking better then others. from the way agent orange is growing (by TGA-subcool) that will be my crop next time if the smoke matches up. its growing nice dense buds shaped like traffic cones that will be easy to trim. its also looking like a above average producer in the room. subcool also mentioned it was his top producer. power kush is making the largest colas and hollends hope is making the longest colas. and sour strawberry kush (BOG) is one of the more frosty but also a high yielder having a lot of smallish chunks all over it so dense i could think i was a week or 2 farther along.
 
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