gun law reform... please!

Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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*BUDS said:
Moses Mobetta said:
Maybe not but the slaughter of over 80 Americans a day by gunshot is. Grow up and hand in you penis extensions to the government , and dont worry if you do this i dont think zombies will start popping out of graves chasing you.
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you are sorely misinformed. most of the "gun deaths" are suicides, and a suicide can be performed with any number of non-gun objects. should we ban razors, knives, ropes, automobile exhaust, bridges and prescription drugs too?


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

you seem to be under the impression that ever day is a shootout at the OK Corral here in the US. it aint that way at all. i have owned guns since i was 8 years old. i have only drawn my gun on one person, and never had to shoot anybody.

those times when shit gets heavy,, and gunfire begins in earnest somebody ALWAYS dies. thats how it ends when the shooting starts. you may like the placid gun-free existence in your european paradise but we are right next door to mexico which you might have heard is in the middle of a narco-civil war. canadians have the US to buffer their mexican experience but those of us on border states get to see the full spectacle. ill not be giving up my guns EVER.

during ww2 the european populace really wished they still had their guns, especially in france poland norway and czechoslovaki. but i suppose once the gemans surrendered they didnt need or want guns any more, again.

sounds pretty short sighted and ignorant of history to me.
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H

Hemlock

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NoDrama said:
Safer? Since Great Britain, Canada and Australia started banning firearms their violent crime has gone up. That isn't safer by any means.



  • In the four years after the United Kingdom banned handguns in 1996, gun crime rose by an astounding 40 percent.
  • Since Australia's 1996 laws banning most guns and making it a crime to use a gun defensively, armed robberies rose by 51 percent, unarmed robberies by 37 percent, assaults by 24 percent and kidnappings by 43 percent.
  • While murders in Australia fell by 3 percent, manslaughter rose by 16 percent.
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LOLOLOL....Tell'em No Drama!!!!!!!!!!
 
canndo

canndo

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budlover13 said:
See, the thing is, you seem to only see YOUR "reality" and discount everyone elses. Kinda what you claim i do right?
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Not even close budlover, I have been known to change my viewpoint when someone makes an unassailable argument rather than seek to "agree to disagree".
 
canndo

canndo

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cannabineer said:
But under the extant government, the revolution was illegal. It came to a fight, with guns and everything. Had the revolutionaries lost, the penalty would have been extreme. cn
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Nevertheless, that was the purpose of the document. There are plenty of revolutions without such a document - one could argue that they were illegal. Furthermore, without that document, the Constitution would not have been legal as we technicaly would not have been independent.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
canndo said:
Nevertheless, that was the purpose of the document. There are plenty of revolutions without such a document - one could argue that they were illegal. Furthermore, without that document, the Constitution would not have been legal as we technically would not have been independent.
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I think I see what you're saying. In almost all other revolutions, the process was reversed ... first gain power, then draw up a plan of state. cn
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
budlover13 said:
How about REgain power and implement the plan of state we started with?
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I don't think any nation can remain "as planned". Were there a new revolution today, as principled as the original ... I'm not sure it would "take" for very long. Back then the world was a bigger place: more autonomous regions with slow, narrow conduits of communication and commerce. Now we're connected, globalized, lost in the Now. The challenge is to find a way to make the original plan work in these very un-original conditions. Jmo. cn
 
budlover13

budlover13

King Tut
cannabineer said:
I don't think any nation can remain "as planned". Were there a new revolution today, as principled as the original ... I'm not sure it would "take" for very long. Back then the world was a bigger place: more autonomous regions with slow, narrow conduits of communication and commerce. Now we're connected, globalized, lost in the Now. The challenge is to find a way to make the original plan work in these very un-original conditions. Jmo. cn
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Very true. i DO think it's a great starting point though.
 
canndo

canndo

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budlover13 said:
How about REgain power and implement the plan of state we started with?
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You mean the articles of confederation? It didn't work very well last time, it wouldn't work this time, curiously, one of the problems with the AOC was that they had no dependable method of obtaining funds. Congress had no power to tax or regulate commerce.
 
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