When to switch to flowering nutes?

Rottedroots

Rottedroots

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Is there a basic rule of thumb or guideline for when to switch from a high N fert to a fert high in PK? I usually just switch over to flowering nutes when I feel a touch of fall in the air but there must be a better way with some reasoning behind it. I'm not that concerned and have started and finished with a 5-5-5 but I gots to know..I already have a couple of different quarts of 2-5-5 or sumpin like that.

Most of the girls are about five/six feet tall in 15 gallon tree pots and are just starting to flower in earnest. The drought and heat hurt my in the ground plants but I was able to get the one person I trust to water the potted ones a couple of times while I was away for a couple of weeks. He doesn't smoke but he will be rewarded. Damm if I wouldn't have been really screwed without him bless his soul!!:hug:

TY:D
 
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imchucky666

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Rottedroots said:
Is there a basic rule of thumb or guideline for when to switch from a high N fert to a fert high in PK? I usually just switch over to flowering nutes when I feel a touch of fall in the air but there must be a better way with some reasoning behind it. I'm not that concerned and have started and finished with a 5-5-5 but I gots to know..I already have a couple of different quarts of 2-5-5 or sumpin like that.

Most of the girls are about five/six feet tall in 15 gallon tree pots and are just starting to flower in earnest. The drought and heat hurt my in the ground plants but I was able to get the one person I trust to water the potted ones a couple of times while I was away for a couple of weeks. He doesn't smoke but he will be rewarded. Damm if I wouldn't have been really screwed without him bless his soul!!:hug:

TY:D
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I had friends that were trusty, but I always asked myself-would I trust him with my truck (LOL not wife)? OK, I can trust him for this.
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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I switch when I have pistil clusters on most of the upper half of the plant.....never switch if you have a deficiency. fix it first....then switch
 
obijohn

obijohn

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I've always slowly transitioned. When it has popcorn buds I cut the N by at
least half, and start flowering nutes at maybe a quarter strength. Then over the next few weeks, only a small shot of nitrogen maybe once a week, otherwise bloom nutes.
 
Laney

Laney

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When some of mine started flowering in earnest and most of the others were looking very busy, I stopped feeding for a couple of weeks and then switched over. I read some advice from Rosenthal on this and having not used a lot of nutes in past grows, I went with that. Thery are all fully flowering now and I am happy with the progress of all but a couple. In a perfect world I might have made more individualized decisions on when to switch and next year, with a smaller grow, I plan to do that.
 
Laney

Laney

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I think I went for the transition because they were at all different stages. I do think the break might help with build up of this or that. A big concern of mine is overdoing it. Next year, I will make more individualized decisions.

What you have going on is survival of the fittest, Fresno. The ones you have left have learned to take what you thow at them and like it :)
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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Laney said:
I think I went for the transition because they were at all different stages. I do think the break might help with build up of this or that. A big concern of mine is overdoing it. Next year, I will make more individualized decisions.

What you have going on is survival of the fittest, Fresno. The ones you have left have learned to take what you thow at them and like it :)
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lol yeah......they better.....or else lol
I might start pushing the nutes in the last 2 weeks before flush....really burn their ass lol
 
hydrosoil78

hydrosoil78

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Fish fertilizer up to the first part of flowering, 1/4 doses each day , weekly 1/2 doses then full or heavy doses. the important thing is how the plants respond.
If they look better and fatter the next day, you did it right. the hard part is how do you diagnose if you gave them too much P or K . too much K might look the same as a plant with too much N. you would really need a book about plant diseases to know for sure. more than a few tablespoons per gallon every day would be too much I think- but I would give them more than 1 gallon of it some days if they respond to it
 
Ndodson79605

Ndodson79605

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Yeah, I hit mine when I noticed the calyxes starting to show. Switched to Bloom Booster and never looked back. Wondering if that was such a wise decision, but no signs of deficiency. You seen the pics Fresno, they look to be fine, huh?
 
Ndodson79605

Ndodson79605

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Ace. Then I should be straight. I am picking up some Grandma's in the next couple of days. I got some liquid bat guano from a couple years ago. Never used it. Don't even know if its still any good. Been through 2 winters. But I don't have an air pump or stone to aerate it. Or is that even necessary (if it's still any good)? Can I add that to the BB? If not, fuck it. I'm definitely using the molasses.
 
Laney

Laney

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I've used BB (and Miracid in veg) almost exclusively on my clones. I baby the moms as much as I can afford to :)
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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Ndodson79605 said:
Ace. Then I should be straight. I am picking up some Grandma's in the next couple of days. I got some liquid bat guano from a couple years ago. Never used it. Don't even know if its still any good. Been through 2 winters. But I don't have an air pump or stone to aerate it. Or is that even necessary (if it's still any good)? Can I add that to the BB? If not, fuck it. I'm definitely using the molasses.
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Idk about adding BG to MG.....it might burn....MG is strong enough as is.....And I never saw liquid BG. Just the powder. I am going to be making teas.
 
Laney

Laney

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I might have to try that liquid guano. A groundhog got into one of my grow spots and strew the top-dressing that I meticulously prepared and applied. I only watered down a gallon each in anticipation of the weekend rain, but now I may have to reapply. Luckily these plants were in containers (buried with the bottoms cut out) or there would have been casualties.
 
FresnoFarmer

FresnoFarmer

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Laney said:
I might have to try that liquid guano. A groundhog got into one of my grow spots and strew the top-dressing that I meticulously prepared and applied. I only watered down a gallon each in anticipation of the weekend rain, but now I may have to reapply. Luckily these plants were in containers (buried with the bottoms cut out) or there would have been casualties.
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time to go groundhog hunting lol.
 
Ndodson79605

Ndodson79605

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I definitely don't know what I'm doing Fresno, so I'm just gonna leave it alone. Lol. Thanks for the heads up though. I'm just gonna stick to my BB.
 
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