Everyone wants to talk abou racisim

canndo

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Santorum, talking about government aid such as food stamps and welfare at the rally at a diner: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."


So, was this a racist statement? He later backtracked and claimed that he didn't say black but "blah" - never seeming to indicate that perhaps he at least he things he stopped short of saying black, realizing that it was the wrong thing to say.
 

desert dude

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Santorum, talking about government aid such as food stamps and welfare at the rally at a diner: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."


So, was this a racist statement? He later backtracked and claimed that he didn't say black but "blah" - never seeming to indicate that perhaps he at least he things he stopped short of saying black, realizing that it was the wrong thing to say.
Is it racist to say, "I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families." Isn't that the sort of opportunity that everybody should have?
 

Carne Seca

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Southern Strategy version 2.0. Make your statement but leave wiggling room for plausible deniability. Same old shit. Different sphincter.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Southern Strategy version 2.0. Make your statement but leave wiggling room for plausible deniability. Same old shit. Different sphincter.
Life would be so much easier if your ideological opponents would just do what you want them to do, and say the things that you are certain (because of your awesome psychic powers) they are thinking.
 

desert dude

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Was it racist to say:

"I watched the RNC and its lilly-white attendees";

"I watched the RNC and saw a black man";
 

bedspirit

Active Member
I used to hate accusations of racism at every turn. It made me think that the left always had to play the victim to score political points. Then I moved to the midwest. Let me assure you, there are some racist motherfuckers out here. It's nothing like what I experienced on the west coast.

Politicians all use pollsters, not only to see what kind of support they have, but also to see how to best express themselves. You can ask someone the same question in two different ways and get wildly different reactions from them. So I imagine that when these pollsters talk to some of these backward racist pieces of crap out here, they probably do respond favorably to language that implies that minorities are inferior.

When I hear a politician make a vague slightly racist sounding statement, I don't assume that he's a racist. I assume he's a bourgeois rich asshole who has no idea how to get regular people to like him. I think he took his pollsters' advise on how to word something and is genuinely shocked to find that some found it racist.

In short, I think it has more to do with a politicians' audience than it does with what's going on in their heads.
 

ChesusRice

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Is it racist to say, "I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families." Isn't that the sort of opportunity that everybody should have?
Most of the people getting goverment assistance
are white

True or False?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Was it racist to say:

"I watched the RNC and its lilly-white attendees";

"I watched the RNC and saw a black man";
What percentage of the RNC convention crowd is minority?
What percentage of the US population is minority?

do the 2 numbers correlate to each other?

if not Why?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Santorum, talking about government aid such as food stamps and welfare at the rally at a diner: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money and provide for themselves and their families."


So, was this a racist statement? He later backtracked and claimed that he didn't say black but "blah" - never seeming to indicate that perhaps he at least he things he stopped short of saying black, realizing that it was the wrong thing to say.
No, it is not a racist statement.

Racism is the belief that people of other colors are inferior and a systematic attempt to deny them their rights by many means.

Saying you want to give black people a hand up and not a hand out is not a racist thing to say.

He should have said poor people as there are more whites on welfare than blacks but it wasnt racist.
 

beenthere

New Member
Most lefties only give lip service to the black man, and that's just to feel good about themselves.
You know the kind, the people that when they actually do help help a brother out, they have to let everyone know about it!
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
What percentage of the RNC convention crowd is minority?
What percentage of the US population is minority?

do the 2 numbers correlate to each other?

if not Why?
Why do you feel the need for quota's?

If as Dr. Martin Luther King said... People should be judged upon their character, not the color of their skin. (paraphrased) So, on that basis, why are you so concerned about making the skittles a perfect mix?
 

ChesusRice

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Why do you feel the need for quota's?

If as Dr. Martin Luther King said... People should be judged upon their character, not the color of their skin. (paraphrased) So, on that basis, why are you so concerned about making the skittles a perfect mix?
So what about the RNC's charachter do the minoritys feel repulsed enough about to stay away from the convention
Couldnt be a core base of Racists that refer to cameramen as animals and throw peanuts at could it? just becuase they are not white?
 
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