Fuck Islam

nontheist

Well-Known Member
I'm intolerant of a lot of things. One of them being religious extremists. Christianity IMO is just as bad if not worse than Islam for all the people that have died for it. The difference is, Christianity isn't going to put a gun in YOUR face where as Islam will. Put the shoe on the other foot and what do you have? A bunch of people being persecuted under the noble cause of Christianity, and you wonder why they hate you and would kill you under the name of Islam.


So recent history is the only history you care about? That is so grey it's disgusting. Recent history can be what is relevant to you to prove your point. I honestly am not going to waste my time proving you wrong. Keep thinking you're the most intelligent person to ever grace this section. Ignorance is bliss.

BUT if you must...

Bosnian War genocide of ~300,000 Muslims and systematic rape of ~100,000 Muslim women by Christian Serbs.
You cannot ignore history but by bringing that up you make the point I am making. Christianity spread by violence but so did Islam the difference now? One will still kill you for being an infidel. I wish religion didn't exist but wishing is a fools game. The reality is, it does exist and they all teach bigotry. Bigotry I can live with my head I cannot not live without.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There is no measured violence in recent history like the violence perpetrated in the name of Islam, if you have anything to the contrary, please post it!
You simply must be kidding me. The violence this one nation's military has meted out this past twelve years handily exceeds all Muslim-sponsored violence worldwide in that time.
From '01 to '11, total worldwide terrorism claimed less than 5000 dead. This author estimates the Muslim contribution to that figure to be a rather impressive 97%.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Looking at total violence in the Islamic world, we have some messy and underreported conflicts, such as the one between Sudan and ... Sudan, with over 300000 dead, and Pakistan's internal bother with the Taliban, claiming 38000 victims.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Estimating the human cost of our little adventure in Iraq alone is much harder, since record-keeping appears uneven. The smallest reckoning from our own military has 109000 dead, with 3771 of those being ours. Other estimates push total deaths to over a million.

In any case, your claim does not stand cursory review. cn
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
You simply must be kidding me. The violence this one nation's military has meted out this past twelve years handily exceeds all Muslim-sponsored violence worldwide in that time.
From '01 to '11, total worldwide terrorism claimed less than 5000 dead. This author estimates the Muslim contribution to that figure to be a rather impressive 97%.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Looking at total violence in the Islamic world, we have some messy and underreported conflicts, such as the one between Sudan and ... Sudan, with over 300000 dead, and Pakistan's internal bother with the Taliban, claiming 38000 victims.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Estimating the human cost of our little adventure in Iraq alone is much harder, since record-keeping appears uneven. The smallest reckoning from our own military has 109000 dead, with 3771 of those being ours. Other estimates push total deaths to over a million.

In any case, your claim does not stand cursory review. cn
Well while your trying to pick a fight thanks for the statistics.

America's slogan "We kill you back better"
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Well while your trying to pick a fight thanks for the statistics.

America's slogan "We kill you back better"
Please don't mistake a rebuttal for "picking a fight". Unless you want to make the claim that dissent is a form of hostility. That would be a startling redaction of the American way. cn
 

harrilu

Member
I am not a bible scholar but I believe it say's you're not suppose to kill somewhere in there.
Not only are you not a bible scholar but you obviously don't know shit about the bible. The bible is full of stonings, killings, rape in the name of "God". Do some reading in the old testament and see what a great religion it is...
 

mr2shim

Well-Known Member
Not only are you not a bible scholar but you obviously don't know shit about the bible. The bible is full of stonings, killings, rape in the name of "God". Do some reading in the old testament and see what a great religion it is...
Old testament is all kinds of fucked up. Suppose to stone your wife for almost anything. She suppose to get knocked up by your brother if you die without giving a son. The old laws don't matter to those who accept Jesus Christ as their savior, hence the new testament. So technically speaking Jewish people should be doing all of that crazy shit because they don't accept him as the son of God and their savior.

There's wayy more than 10 commandments btw.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Not only are you not a bible scholar but you obviously don't know shit about the bible. The bible is full of stonings, killings, rape in the name of "God". Do some reading in the old testament and see what a great religion it is...
OOO first post and it's all about me, I feel special. So tell me why do they teach not to follow the old testament? Didn't it go from an "eye for an eye" to turn the other cheek and what about that "thou shall not kill" thing? I am not scholar as admitted but I remember that, I also never said Christianity was a great religion, in fact I believe I said I am atheist and called all religions foolish.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Your little Stormfront "truth" ain't the same truth we espouse over here bro.

So you honestly expect me to believe someone started an account under your name on a Whte nationalist website just to troll you on a cannabis website?

Bitch please...
It does seem absurd, and beneath contempt to boot to create a false account at a racist web site, but the link you provided shows a join date of August, 2012. I don't recall when the claims by Buck, and others started but it does seem like it was a few months ago, i.e. before August.

Buck has threatened to repost some of my RIU ramblings on stormfront... Chesus has accused me of SF membership as well, despite the fact that I had never heard of SF before Buck mentioned it.

I think Red's claim that the SF membership is phony has merit.
 

harrilu

Member
That was my first post, and yes you are special.
I was never told to not follow the old testament back in my dark christian days. Evangelicals are typically fed a mixture of each testament, basically whichever is convenient to the particular sermon or point being made. My point is that the bible is completely full of violence. It's only been a short time, maybe a couple hundred years at most, that good christians don't kill in the name of god. Maybe islam is behind the rest of the "civilized" world in its evolution. That's actually pretty obvious. I don't condone any religious beliefs, I think it's a huge problem in the world. There is just no way to say that one does more damage than the other. (maybe Jim Jone's followers would disagree)
 

Antidisestablishmentarian

Well-Known Member
OK you can judge for yourself, in this post here by our Red1966 he claims to have seen and known of voter fruad commited by democrats , , , and im not disputing it at all, but i think the connection between the posts

OHIO

Originally Posted by canndo

Anyone who cannot afford or cannot obtain supporting documents will not be able to vote. Anyone who cannot get to issuing centers will not be able to vote - like maybe folks in retirement or nursing homes or those who don't have autos - typicaly if one does have a car then they already have sufficient ID. As I said, not everyone is in the same situation, but they are still citizens. The SCOTUS decision which makes this argument moot (I don't recall the name) showed that in the state - Ohio I think, examined, 40,000 people would be disenfranchised. Now the equation is pretty simple, subtract the number of illegal voters who would be kept from voting from the number of legal voters ID requirements would keep from voting, if you get a positive number then you are pretty much fucking democracy in the ass. Repubs have little problem with this sort of thing. I find it highly interesting that on the one case - global warming, conservatives demand positive, irrefutable figures before they will act to prevent, but in the other, Voter ID, they need no proof that even a handful of illegal votes have been cast before they are perfectly willing to be "preemtive".




Originally Posted by Red1966
Who can't obtain ID? You can register and vote by mail. Voter fraud is fucking democracy. Dems have little problem with voter fraud, in fact, they are very good at it. I have seen voter fraud committed with my own eyes, so you're not going to convince me it doesn't happen. You're such a hack.






09-02-2012, 06:48 PM
#63
red1966
Forum Member

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4
Re: How will you vote? 2012 U.S. Presidential Elections
[HR][/HR] What makes me so sick is the ruling in Ohio which allows afro-american preachers to bus their congregations to the polls after their Sunday sermon. It's this mixing of religion and politics which the Democrats pretend to oppose until it helps them.



seems it could be just a coincidence, or could be a member playing a mean trick . . . . . . i dont think either of these


and when Cheese brought this up recently Red said that cheese accsue dhim in june/july if i have to find the post i quoted it so no after teh fact editing will change it

turns out cheese said it in September not june/july as red claimed .. and reason why this matters is that red claimed CHeese accused him months before the join date of that profile on stormfront which it seems may be a lie . . i cant be certain cheese didnt accuse him of it earlier but as far as i have seen so far the earliest date was in September not june/july as red claimed before the red character at stormfront joined that site
And this is the thread where it started:

https://www.rollitup.org/politics/548687-obama-announces-new-education-program-3.html

It is from July.
 

beenthere

New Member
You simply must be kidding me. The violence this one nation's military has meted out this past twelve years handily exceeds all Muslim-sponsored violence worldwide in that time. If I'm not mistaken, the US military is not a religion!
I suggest you take your strawman to another thread.

From '01 to '11, total worldwide terrorism claimed less than 5000 dead. This author estimates the Muslim contribution to that figure to be a rather impressive 97%.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Looking at total violence in the Islamic world, we have some messy and underreported conflicts, such as the one between Sudan and ... Sudan, with over 300000 dead, and Pakistan's internal bother with the Taliban, claiming 38000 victims.
http://super-economy.blogspot.com/2011/02/islamists-caus-overwhelming-majority-of.html
Estimating the human cost of our little adventure in Iraq alone is much harder, since record-keeping appears uneven. The smallest reckoning from our own military has 109000 dead, with 3771 of those being ours. Other estimates push total deaths to over a million.

In any case, your claim does not stand cursory review. cn
If you are so confident, then cite it and we can start the debate!

Stay in context of religions, no more strawmen like the lame ass 5th grade one you built yesterday!
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There is no measured violence in recent history like the violence perpetrated in the name of Islam, if you have anything to the contrary, please post it!
This was the post to which I responded. You simply said "violence". For you to come after the fact and say "but I meant religious violence only!" won't wash.

If you are so confident, then cite it and we can start the debate!

Stay in context of religions, no more strawmen like the lame ass 5th grade one you built yesterday!
Once again, you move your goalposts when it suits you, even as you frantically try to nail your interlocutors down on their use of words. The 5th-grader thing was indeed lame as all ass, and you constructed that one on your own, unassisted. cn
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
With all due respect, your comment pretty well sums up my premise, look at all the likes you received.
When I asked the simple question why do most lefties hate and mock Christianity but defend Islam, I got it from all the lefties on this thread to post up some proof!

Where are the same people asking for yours?
People don't tend to ask for proof if it's already something they believe. If they believe it, the evidence has already convinced them.

Do you mind if I ask you how old you are?
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
Normally I would agree with you however, this forum is a major part of his life and I wouldn't put something like this past Bucky, not for a minute. How pathetic if it's true!
Since chesus and UncleShitsHisPants made the claim a month before the join date on the Stormfront account, that is the logical conclusion. Harrekin wants to believe otherwise, so he's happy to ignore logic and continue to engage in slander. They pretend to have such high morals, but their behavior belies their pretense. Imagine if their type were to have a free hand running the country.
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
Since chesus and UncleShitsHisPants made the claim a month before the join date on the Stormfront account, that is the logical conclusion. Harrekin wants to believe otherwise, so he's happy to ignore logic and continue to engage in slander. They pretend to have such high morals, but their behavior belies their pretense. Imagine if their type were to have a free hand running the country.
Stop being such a little bitch, I don't honestly care what you believe or don't as long as you don't act on it. Freedom of expression, even if it's wrong.

Im just trolling you cos you're an easy target, stop the "woe is me" crap and just give it back as good as you get it.

You have seen the way they troll each other in actual national parliaments right? It's politics.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Stop being such a little bitch, I don't honestly care what you believe or don't as long as you don't act on it. Freedom of expression, even if it's wrong.

Im just trolling you cos you're an easy target, stop the "woe is me" crap and just give it back as good as you get it.

You have seen the way they troll each other in actual national parliaments right? It's politics.
Did you ever answer my math problem, H? You've had several days to sober up since I posted the problem.
 

Red1966

Well-Known Member
OK you can judge for yourself, in this post here by our Red1966 he claims to have seen and known of voter fruad commited by democrats , , , and im not disputing it at all, but i think the connection between the posts

OHIO

Originally Posted by canndo

Anyone who cannot afford or cannot obtain supporting documents will not be able to vote. Anyone who cannot get to issuing centers will not be able to vote - like maybe folks in retirement or nursing homes or those who don't have autos - typicaly if one does have a car then they already have sufficient ID. As I said, not everyone is in the same situation, but they are still citizens. The SCOTUS decision which makes this argument moot (I don't recall the name) showed that in the state - Ohio I think, examined, 40,000 people would be disenfranchised. Now the equation is pretty simple, subtract the number of illegal voters who would be kept from voting from the number of legal voters ID requirements would keep from voting, if you get a positive number then you are pretty much fucking democracy in the ass. Repubs have little problem with this sort of thing. I find it highly interesting that on the one case - global warming, conservatives demand positive, irrefutable figures before they will act to prevent, but in the other, Voter ID, they need no proof that even a handful of illegal votes have been cast before they are perfectly willing to be "preemtive".




Originally Posted by Red1966
Who can't obtain ID? You can register and vote by mail. Voter fraud is fucking democracy. Dems have little problem with voter fraud, in fact, they are very good at it. I have seen voter fraud committed with my own eyes, so you're not going to convince me it doesn't happen. You're such a hack.






09-02-2012, 06:48 PM
#63
red1966
Forum Member

Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 4
Re: How will you vote? 2012 U.S. Presidential Elections
[HR][/HR] What makes me so sick is the ruling in Ohio which allows afro-american preachers to bus their congregations to the polls after their Sunday sermon. It's this mixing of religion and politics which the Democrats pretend to oppose until it helps them.



seems it could be just a coincidence, or could be a member playing a mean trick . . . . . . i dont think either of these


and when Cheese brought this up recently Red said that cheese accsue dhim in june/july if i have to find the post i quoted it so no after teh fact editing will change it

turns out cheese said it in September not june/july as red claimed .. and reason why this matters is that red claimed CHeese accused him months before the join date of that profile on stormfront which it seems may be a lie . . i cant be certain cheese didnt accuse him of it earlier but as far as i have seen so far the earliest date was in September not june/july as red claimed before the red character at stormfront joined that site
Below find the earliest post I found before I tired of looking. Dated 8-14-2012 at 05:06PM in a thread titled " The compassionate left" (https://www.rollitup.org/politics/553280-compassionate-left-15.html#post7863244). I believe there were a couple of earlier posts, also. Note in that post, it is stated the Stormfront post was made a month earlier. So that would mean I supposedly joined in July. Note also Red1966 has a capital "R". Later posts, after Chesus joined Stormfront, he quotes it as red1966, no capital "R". Go to the original post by Chesus and click on the links. They only point to RIU. Now, you can be a man and apologize, or you can can continue making a fool of yourself.

Oops, forgot the attachment!
 

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