colorado help! winter air question! indoors

chewberto

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People in colorado with natural gas heaters know how dry and nasty it can get indoors during the winter, and i want to know if anyone pulls cold outside winter air into their room, how well does it work and how? I thought aboit air purifiers but any experienced suggestions are welcome... i have a 13x9 room with a 5x5 gorilla grow tent inside, air cooled reflector...thanks
 

dbkick

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People in colorado with natural gas heaters know how dry and nasty it can get indoors during the winter, and i want to know if anyone pulls cold outside winter air into their room, how well does it work and how? I thought aboit air purifiers but any experienced suggestions are welcome... i have a 13x9 room with a 5x5 gorilla grow tent inside, air cooled reflector...thanks
I used to love pulling in cold air but have found you can't really count on winter being winter ALL the time for some reason, I think it has to do with haarp and how they THINK they can control the weather. I see a lot of pests here, more than my share if you ask me. anytime it's warm out (it's actually gotten pretty warm here some days in the winter) those pest MAY be in the air. bought an 8 inch ice box which is nothing more than a small coil mounted in what must be a very expensive plastic housing because the thing cost me 2 bills. I"m not using it now but intend to in the winter, I'll place a bin of water out in the garage where it should be really cold (I could run the chiller on this too IF i had too but shouldn't IF they quit controlling the weather and let winter be winter. but anyway, wtf was the question?
 

chewberto

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Really the dilemma is this, under the house is kinda wet and moldy smelling or id pull that air i want clean air i will also through an organic hepa filter on the intake. so will outside air on snowy wet cold days be too cold to enter the room without shocking plants?...im fucking sick of the games they play too man, Guinea pigging everyone for control and profit. Let us live. is what i say stay out of our lives.. thanks for the reply dude
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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My only thought is that my temp control works out much better when i have a consistent intake air temp. If it was varying the 50+ degrees we can see here easily in a day, let alone the 50 degree high temp swings in the same week can make room temps impossible to control. Plus i get free Co2 from my house, and revive that stale air with refreshed air from the room. Plus then i am heating the air and using the excess heat from the lamps, to help heat the house.
 

chewberto

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My only thought is that my temp control works out much better when i have a consistent intake air temp. If it was varying the 50+ degrees we can see here easily in a day, let alone the 50 degree high temp swings in the same week can make room temps impossible to control. Plus i get free Co2 from my house, and revive that stale air with refreshed air from the room. Plus then i am heating the air and using the excess heat from the lamps, to help heat the house.
That is my concern with temps fluctuating and moisture will be inconsistent...free c02? can you explain how to revive stale air and how you maintain a consistent intake temp? i plan on using c02 during flower but what about veg? i too would like to use the lamp heat to help heat the house howd u do it? thanks for the help
 

dbkick

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yeah, free co2? I think he may be talking about something I just explained to a user that was in disbelief that you can use household appliances that burn natural gas as a source of co2, he was shocked to think I would suggest running his water heater exhaust into a room. told him straight up a full bottle of co2 in the wrong hands is more deadly than a water heater exhaust.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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Sorry for the slow response....
Ok lets start at the beginning, what is "stale air"? IMO it is air that has sat inside your living area, run through your furnace and all in all had a fair amount of CO2 added to it through your breathing of the air, the fire of the furnace, the water heater etc. In summer you open windows and turn on fans and pull out the CO2. In winter you live with it. So now you take and feed that air into your grow room with plants that eat the Co2 and make O2, and they refresh your air before returning it to the living environment.
That is where i get free Co2. I am very against venting your water heater into your grow space, but yes it is the same thing as a water cooled C02 generator. My reasoning against it, it makes us look like ass holes when they find it.....
 

dbkick

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Sorry for the slow response....
Ok lets start at the beginning, what is "stale air"? IMO it is air that has sat inside your living area, run through your furnace and all in all had a fair amount of CO2 added to it through your breathing of the air, the fire of the furnace, the water heater etc. In summer you open windows and turn on fans and pull out the CO2. In winter you live with it. So now you take and feed that air into your grow room with plants that eat the Co2 and make O2, and they refresh your air before returning it to the living environment.
That is where i get free Co2. I am very against venting your water heater into your grow space, but yes it is the same thing as a water cooled C02 generator. My reasoning against it, it makes us look like ass holes when they find it.....
they????????
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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Sorry ran short on time, if anyone ever comes to inspect your grow, and sees your water heater venting into the grow space it does not look very good. Then it is known as a grow tactic, another way for them to attack us for "unsafe" grow environments.
 

NavySEALsVet

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People in colorado with natural gas heaters know how dry and nasty it can get indoors during the winter, and i want to know if anyone pulls cold outside winter air into their room, how well does it work and how? I thought aboit air purifiers but any experienced suggestions are welcome... i have a 13x9 room with a 5x5 gorilla grow tent inside, air cooled reflector...thanks
Hahaha welcome to the team brother I am gonna be doing the same exact shit to cool off my 1000watt how are.you gonna be pulling yours in?
 

chewberto

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Well i am using an 8inch booster fan with organic air hepa filter attached to the end haven't usef it yet cause i am still using cfls....
Hahaha welcome to the team brother I am gonna be doing the same exact shit to cool off my 1000watt how are.you gonna be pulling yours in?
 

420circuit

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...if anyone ever comes to inspect your grow, and sees your water heater venting into the grow space it does not look very good...
Who would come to inspect my grow? Hopefully that won't happen as I just might be slightly out of compliance with the letter of the law, but not the intent. My doc gave me an increased plant count and I'd like to not discuss this with a government employee. Also, when it comes to diverting the combustion vent from the water heater and furnace, just don't, as it could easily kill someone. The CO gasses need to be vented outside for sure, really, no fooling around with this one. If you have enclosed hoods on your lights you can intake air from outside the grow room, vent it thru the lights, and vent it back outside the room again, just warmer and without any odor.
 

TruenoAE86coupe

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All patients are supposed to be willing to show their grow set up to law enforcement if they show up asking. Caregivers must register the location of the grow with the state. Always keep in mind someone may come looking.
 

420circuit

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All patients are supposed to be willing to show their grow set up to law enforcement if they show up asking. Caregivers must register the location of the grow with the state. Always keep in mind someone may come looking.
Who could come looking? The confidentiality of our records is assured by law so that only the one specific department has the record. Unless you get popped for having mmj and need to prove that you are legal, then the LEO can run a check on your ID to validate it. Yes? Being of a paranoid nature I tend to worry about this stuff. And so as to NOT to hijack the OP's thread too far, the dry air should be fine, I would think that it will just help to prevent mold. Today I came home to find that a tank had developed a small leak and got a towel wet, it raised the humidity in the room from 32% to 70%. So, if you find it too dry, just soak a towel and put it next to the garden. I fixed the leaky lid with rope caulk.:)
 

dbkick

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I saw them swinging by here and they were pointing this device at houses as they drove by, wtf it was I don't know but I thought they were pinpointing me for some reason. I told someone about it and they said "they're doing that to EVERYONES house" , I don't know what the device was other than maybe something that detects ballasts? I consider this an invasion of privacy. back on topic , bring on the cold dry air!
 

420circuit

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The thing pointed at your place might be a meter reader for water or a cable company audit for signal leakage. I suppose there could be something else, but it is very (extremely) unlikely that anyone has created a ballast sensor. Unless it was a police car, then I suppose it could be a stoner detector that only alerts when it picks up paranoia. :-o
 

eyecandi

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if it was an FLIR (thermal imaging) camera, they can easily pinpoint active lights better then ballasts, as the bulb/hood runs pretty hot compared to ambient temps. hot exhaust shows easily (like a dryer vent). hotspots lead the way. there are materials available to block FLIRs, but you have to line the entire room these days, unless it's a basement or underground.

http://www.flir.com/us/

can you identify it if you saw it?
 

doogleef

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Random FLIR imaging by law enforcement is not legal. I actually exhaust out my dryer vent but its because it was availabel and easy, not for stealth
 
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