LMAO Did Al Gore tell ya that whopper!
Global warming pauses... for sixteen years
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UncleBuck
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there was no question in there, just lies. moron.
canndo
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Back to the same canard - It isn't warming, and if it is, we didn't do it, and if we did, we can't do anything to fix it.
The fact is that if we caused it, we can fix it or at least modify the severity. As I said, we have lived in the hottest decade on record, there is no warming hiatus, there may be a slowing in progression.
There is nothing suicidal about planning for a future where every country, when they see their coastline dissapearing, will come to us for the technology to reduce their emissions. As I said, it is foolish to claim that because our next door neighor doesn't weed his front lawn, we should not.
Al gore, much as those on the right want to claim, is not global warming - they are two different things.
NLXSK1
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If the earth has been hotter and cooler it is not a false argument at all.
I acknowledge there is global warming and cooling. I am skeptical that we have created any of it and much more skeptical that we could actually change it.
UncleBuck
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UncleBuck
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yes, let's invent a new solar cycle that will explain everything.
just like i invent a new god to explain stuff i don't understand.
i'm sure climatologists writing peer reviewed research papers are dying to get in touch with you.
ginjawarrior
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no the sun is part of the main sequence stars they increase in luminosity untill they have burnt their hydrogen and turn into a red giant
back when the earth was formed the sun was at 70% of its present luminosity
if people are going way back till the time when the earth was "far hotter" than now then you would run into the problem that the sun just wasnt that hot then
Omgwtfbbq Indicaman
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history has a habit of making people who deny evidence look stupid after the fact. no arguments from me here. the effects of Climate change are real.
I personally feel like we have CONTRIBUTED to it.
In 2008 I remember hearing somewhere that Obama liked high energy/gas prices because it forced people to cut back on energy/gas use. In some ways I can agree with that because as you have seen, people have cut back. People are now looking for more fuel efficient cars for a glaring example.
The problem with that is the fact that when gas/energy prices go up, so does every other product in the country. All of a sudden you are paying double for a gallon of milk and 3x as much for a chicken breast. Some people cant cut back and then they are hit much much harder than those with options. Contractors, truck drivers, operators, and on and on and on, they have no choice, so they have to raise prices which people end up paying. Any person with even a little bit of common sense and not completely devoured with selfishness and greed wants to see a green energy. So many problems could be solved. Unfortunately, it is not available and LIFE MUST GO ON until it is available. Dont freaking kill us in the 20-30 years its going to take before something is practical. DRILL BABY DRILL.
grizlbr
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So time will tell which of the theories are correct: Man has enough effect by carbon out put to change earth's climate or the naturally occurring Methane from sic Russia's frozen tundra and surrounding oceans with volcanic eruptions far out weighs man's carbon foot print for the last 5000 year industrial revolution. In the last 100,000 years of this how many year old planet of that have we had instruments and ways to record green house effects? Or like carbon dating from the scientific evidence and current theories we project the temperature for this 1000 year period plus or minus 20 degrees kelvin< who came up with that? Just like the reptile skin dinosaurs or did they have feathers or fur? Time will tell maybe the temperature and green house gas are just natural rhythms or we put a tarp over the Continents collect and burn the Methane so just the CO2 is left?
ginjawarrior
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yes
no the tundra will add a big lump to temperature but we're doing more and volcano's emmit about 1% of the co2 we do yearly
with the equipment we have now we can look back hundreds of thousands of years
dont think you can point to a single person on that
they didnt have fur
there are natural cycles but we've overtaken them
deprave
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omg we are all gunna die! QUICK SOMEONE GIVE THE GOVERNMENT MONEY!
[video=youtube;BXmZ89eJMbA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXmZ89eJMbA[/video]
ginjawarrior
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you all bent over and lubed up ready for november? you been dreaming about it for months
deprave
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What are you talking about?you all bent over and lubed up ready for november? you been dreaming about it for months
ginjawarrior
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pretty much the same gist as your post
Coming from a gumby that thought Mitt Romney voted in Congress! LOL
Red1966
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The advent of "fracturing" has done more to reduce the greenhouse gas levels this year than Gore's carbon credit scheme will . Cleaner burning and now cheaper natural gas produces far less pollution than other fuels. Yet the same people clamoring for lower carbon emissions are against fracturing. Go figure.
canndo
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This solar thing has been debunked as a cause of extraordinary global warming for some time now.
According to solar physicists, the sun emitted a third less energy about 4 billion years ago and has been steadily brightening ever since. Yet for most of this time, Earth has been even warmer than today, a phenomenon sometimes called the faint sun paradox. The reason: higher levels of greenhouse gases trapping more of the sun's heat.
Furthermore, you are pointing at yet another of your strange coincidences - the sun is getting hotter just as the CO2 levels in the atmosphere are rising, and those rising atmospheric co2 levels are . coincidently correspondent to human industrial activity.
Lots of coincidences there eh NLX?