Banning Plastic Shopping Bags
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beardo
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Ok
Did you see the billionairs for Obama thread?
It seems to have died
I made some excellent points and the other side has dropped out of the debate
https://www.rollitup.org/politics/583748-billionaires-obama-why-4.html
RyanTheRhino
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RyanTheRhino
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Now I want Chinese food. Its always that or the smiley face... WHY
OGEvilgenius
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Snitches get stitches.
Samwell Seed Well
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shot callers, false claiming snitch , is some mark ass trick shit, no stitches just chalk art
stop false claiming on FDD you know nothing, and are suspect to keep this on, as fdd is going to jail and snitches dont go to jail
most of you priveilaged mofos will never know what jail is like
i can still smell the lisol generic cleaning solution that everything smelled like . . . . .. .
not many of you will know what he is about to experience so shut uppa your mouths
stop false claiming on FDD you know nothing, and are suspect to keep this on, as fdd is going to jail and snitches dont go to jail
most of you priveilaged mofos will never know what jail is like
i can still smell the lisol generic cleaning solution that everything smelled like . . . . .. .
not many of you will know what he is about to experience so shut uppa your mouths
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
This thread is proof. cn
Dr Kynes
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youtube documentaries aside, you are asserting that microscopic plastic particles (which are the majority of the "garbage island" mass) are still plastic? astounding. lets call in Frontline for an expose!
and "60 to 1 ratios of plastic to wildlife!!!! ZOMG!!! WE IS DOOMED!!!!1!11!!1!!!!one!!!uno" means nothing at all. if i sieve my favorite fishing hole ill easily rake in TONS offloating water bottles, old fishing bobbers and discarded diapers before ill catch a single trout with my pool skimmer.
naturally you assumed i have some wacky "pro Garbage" stance, because you NEED animosity and resistance to your glorious ideals to feel like you are sticking it to the man, but in fact you are WRONG!!! i am anti-garbage. but im also anti-kneejerk legislation, anti-shitty hyperbolic fake science, and anti-unreasoning panic.
if you think there is actually a mountain of piled up trash spining in the current in the middle of the pacific then you are a fool.
there is a thing that fits that description in the atlantic gyre, but it is an ancient mass of free floating seaweed.
try to be less panicstricken, and less gullible. every asshole with a ponytail and birkenstocks is not your friend.
Carne Seca
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[video=youtube;8a4S23uXIcM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a4S23uXIcM[/video]
Dr Kynes
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they havent made uncle buck change his avatar so i guess dildoes are A OK!
Dr Kynes
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dead camel in a pile of random rubbish. yeah... we need to ban mammals. they wash out to sea and slowly degrade into alpacas, then llamas then ponies then goats then guineapigs till they enter the food chain... shrews and voles have been found in the FLESH of marine organisms!
contact your local politicians, we must ban mammals NOW!
Dr Kynes
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yes. shots of a skimmer floating through clear water, then ZOMG!! a BOTTLE!! a GLASS BOTTLE!!! with BARNACLES!!!! thats what we call a HABITAT.
after all the hyperbole about the seas becoming a "plastic soup", Admiral Eco-Naut pulls up a big (PLASTIC!! LULZ!) ziplock bag full of "the new beach sand" made from plastic bits. when asked if theres any actual sand. he admits yes... theres some volcanic and beach sand in this bag too... sand does not float. which means he went to a beach with a shovel collected some rubbish put it in a sack and used it as a prop to support his claims about a floating island of trash.
and they cap it off with "on a recent cruise INSIDE LONG BEACH HARBOUR, Moore and his crew use simple fishing nets to "dredge" up plastic waste headed out into the pacific"
he even claims that the plastic "degrades to the molecular level!"
the entire video segment is full of hyperbole and misdirection.
the takeaway :
everybody should live on walden pond, or everyone should feel guilty for every sammich bag or crisp packet they use.
OGEvilgenius
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My comment was in reference to the reporting of off topic posts, but I get it.
Saltrock
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Dr kynes
You say you are not pro plastic, but yet you almost seem to argue for plastic. Are you saying it's not that big of a deal and we are over reacting? Or are you saying plastic has no negative effect on the environment? Not sure what you are getting at. I use plastic time from time I will admit. I am not perfect. I mean everybody has to , if you buy yogurt, vacum sealed products, bagged lettuce. But, I try and recycle everything else. I just don't get how some people can be so small minded that they don't think things like air pollution, land pollution and water pollution is made up hogwash.
I bums me out how bad people can treat this planet. I may sound like a tree huger, but I am not. I grew up near lake tahoe, played football and wrestled and smoked weed. I was raised in one of the most beautiful parts of the usa. I would never want my lake or forest where I grew up to be littered with tons of trash. Lake tahoe is one of the nicest lakes around. The clarity is amazing. They have banned two stroke engines from the lake. Also have strict rules for boaters. It may seem like a pain in the ass, but you have to think long term. Have something beautiful that many generations can enjoy.
Peace
Salt
You say you are not pro plastic, but yet you almost seem to argue for plastic. Are you saying it's not that big of a deal and we are over reacting? Or are you saying plastic has no negative effect on the environment? Not sure what you are getting at. I use plastic time from time I will admit. I am not perfect. I mean everybody has to , if you buy yogurt, vacum sealed products, bagged lettuce. But, I try and recycle everything else. I just don't get how some people can be so small minded that they don't think things like air pollution, land pollution and water pollution is made up hogwash.
I bums me out how bad people can treat this planet. I may sound like a tree huger, but I am not. I grew up near lake tahoe, played football and wrestled and smoked weed. I was raised in one of the most beautiful parts of the usa. I would never want my lake or forest where I grew up to be littered with tons of trash. Lake tahoe is one of the nicest lakes around. The clarity is amazing. They have banned two stroke engines from the lake. Also have strict rules for boaters. It may seem like a pain in the ass, but you have to think long term. Have something beautiful that many generations can enjoy.
Peace
Salt
Canna Sylvan
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Doc, What about mermaid tears? Plastic in the ocean is just that, just a mermaid crying? No big deal? Can't forget about Nurdles. That'd actually be a cool online handle.
Dr Kynes
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i am anti-garbage. i am pro-plastic. plastic is awesome, super useful, and really handy. but i use cloth shopping bags usually. i prefer them. whiskey bottles dont poke out and fall to the street at 40mph when im riding home on my motorbike when i use my backpack instead of shitty LDPE shopping bags. i consider broken whiskey in the street a tragedy.
i am arguing against the hyperbolic and deceptive fake science evidenced by the OP, the shitty garbage island boat tour video, and the various internet documentaries which deliberatley falsify evidence for shock value "for our own good" if the truth isnt scary enough, why does the lie become necessary to sell the agenda?
read this story from the new york times, about the EPA cracking down and those notorious polluters THE AMISH FARMER, and ask yourself why amish farms are considered pollution sources, but conventional agricultural runoff is not...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/science/earth/09amish.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
and dont believe the headlines, this is not "rare" back in 2003 the EPA sued several pennsylvania amish communities over their "pollution" to protect a freshwater snail, which had been thriving happily alongside these same amish farms since their original land grant from George Washington. (the EPA lost... lulz)
reasonable regulation to reduce pollution and improve water, air and soil quality is good. over-reaching insane wacky kneejerk reactions are bad.
the IDEA is not hogwash, but the exaggeration is insane. i recycle everything i can, i pick up other asshole's litter when i go gold panning or hiking and pack it out, and i dispose of my used oil properly. sometimes a plastic shopping bag is helpful. i will not crucify myself for using them.
we must stop the predations of the amish, to save the planet for future genrations.... does this sound like sound government regulation to you?
government is OFTEN the problem, not the solution. and the trash island does not exist. it is a fiction created to make you feel guilty, afraid and ashamed. the same emotions used by dogmatic religions to control their flock. if you let them controll you like a sheep, dont be surprised when you get sheared.
edit: heres one of my favorite examples of Eco-Evangelism gone wild "for our own good" :
"Even more influential was the 1958 Disney film White Wilderness, which won an Academy Award for Documentary Feature, in which staged footage was shown with lemmings jumping into certain death after faked scenes of mass migration.[SUP][12][/SUP] A Canadian Broadcasting Corporation documentary, Cruel Camera, found the lemmings used for White Wilderness were flown from Hudson Bay to Calgary, Alberta, Canada, where they did not jump off the cliff, but were in fact launched off the cliff using a turntable.[SUP][13]"[/SUP]
~http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemming
thats right HURLED OFF A CLIFF BY A MECHANICAL TURNTABLE!!!! ohh disney, you so evil...
Dr Kynes
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im more concerned about the CO2 implications of mermaid farts....
every bubble brings us closer to greenhouse gas armageddon!
wheres my speargun?
plus i hear they are tasty as fuck.