CBD a cure schizophrenia

[ford442]

NOTHING is known about cannabis and medicine - if hemp could build rope and paper wouldn't we be doing that already? every time you ask the government about medical use of cannabis they say that it has NO medical uses and there have not been ANY studies. it is a smoke screen. again - high CBD strains will not ever give an anti-psychotic dose of CBD without an incapacitating dose of THC. like trying to cure cancer - you need more cannabinoids that you get in marijuana. i don't know about a cure - however, i think that it is possible since CBD repairs damaged neuron sites instead of just tranquilizing the patient.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Fact:

The overall incidence rate from 1900 (and earlier) to now has been around 1.0%.

Fact:

The overall use of cannabis has dramatically increased over that period

In fact I can pull a Scottish study indicating the incidence rate has dropped in the late 20th century for them (compared to the late 1800's to early 1900's).

So where is the connection exactly?

 

[ford442]

right - i don't know what people are arguing against here - sometimes i think that there are DEA on this forum... i have been contacted by companies pretending to be stoners on here..

 

[Jogro]

NOTHING is known about cannabis and medicine -

Really? Out of 10,000 years of human history, cannabis has been widely used as medicine for all of it.
In fact out of those 10,000 years, cannabis was perfectly legal for any kind of use for about 9970 of them, and its still legal for such use in many parts of the globe.

If there is "no knowledge" of cannabis and medicine as you say, then where did that paper you cite come from?

if hemp could build rope and paper wouldn't we be doing that already?

Umm. . .we ARE doing that.

every time you ask the government about medical use of cannabis they say that it has NO medical uses and there have not been ANY studies.

Actually, there have been TONS of studies, and one was just cited above. In fact, there have been RECENT studies published on medical cannabis use from INSIDE the USA.

Again, the world is a "little bigger" than just what the US Federal gov't represents.

it is a smoke screen. again - high CBD strains will not ever give an anti-psychotic dose of CBD without an incapacitating dose of THC. like trying to cure cancer - you need more cannabinoids that you get in marijuana. i don't know about a cure - however, i think that it is possible since CBD repairs damaged neuron sites instead of just tranquilizing the patient.

CBD can be fairly easily extracted from cannabis extracts, if necessary.

As to the second part of your statement, there is zero reason to believe that that CBD can repair damaged neurons, sorry.

 

[ford442]

are you a neurologist? do you have schizophrenia? by known - i mean by modern scientific methods.

why are you arguing for the DEA? they have thus-far prevented any proper study of cannabis in the US for more than 75 years.

do you not understand that hemp is currently illegal to grow in every state? no legal studies have been done or else the DEA could not say that "no studies have shown that marijuana has medical efficacy'

WE are NOT making paper and rope from hemp because growing hemp is currently illegal.

the study i cited is from Germany - a more civilized place where cannabis is treated like medicine. they are ahead of us in education and industry and now CBD.

extracting CBD in the US is illegal - therefore it has never been tried - therefore i am not going to give up just because of your non-scientific hunch.

 

[LWD]

If hemp was illegal to grow why was I able on Amazon.com to order a 100 percent made of hemp wallet? Made in USA.

 

[ford442]

look up if it is legal to grow hemp and then report back. it is not.

all hemp is imported across international lines.

 

[LWD]

Yale university is doing a study on cannabidiol. http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00588731?term=cannabidiol+AND+schizophrenia&recr=Recruiting&rank=1

I believe they are trying to see if Cannabidiol can improve cognitive impairment caused by the disease.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I don't like the design of that study, but it might tell us something. They're not exactly studying what you guys are looking for either. The control is a placebo + standard anti psychotic cocktail.

 

[ford442]

i want a replacement for anti-psychotics. i am sure that you guys have heard how shitty it is to take them for years and years.

 

[LWD]

i want a replacement for anti-psychotics. i am sure that you guys have heard how shitty it is to take them for years and years.

Have you heard study where anti psychotics may extend the life of people with schizophrenia? Well obviously since being with out meds your essentially dead anyway. Only if they made a weight neutral med that worked good. I'd be happy. I'd be happy to know if CBD will actually work for us good enough to replace out current anti psychotics. Next year is going to be interesting.

 

[ford442]

anti-psychotics tend to stop you from killing yourself or others and also suffering fatal accidents due to madness... however, the life expectancy of someone with schizophrenia is 10 - 15 years shorter partly due to death by anti-psychotics..

from what i understand - CBD functioned in a study as well as Amulsipride which is like a European Zyprexa..

 

[LWD]

anti-psychotics tend to stop you from killing yourself or others and also suffering fatal accidents due to madness... however, the life expectancy of someone with schizophrenia is 10 - 15 years shorter partly due to death by anti-psychotics..

from what i understand - CBD functioned in a study as well as Amulsipride which is like a European Zyprexa..

without the weight gain also I assume. Then that settles it basically, CBD is just as good as a modern AP. What else are we waiting for, the production of it or big pharma patent and its release. I wonder how long that will take?

 

[ford442]

well - the study i am excited about was in europe, so we cannot have psych professionals prescribing it just yet.

right - the weight gain thing is strictly the class of strange drugs that are today's psych meds. i went from 140 up to 285 in less than 2 years.. it would be great if some of us don't have to face it in the future..

 

[ford442]

and again - i have some stuff from dixiex.com - Dixie X Dew Drops line of oils are CBD derived from hemp which has more CBD than weed as i understand. the only problem is that i think we need a much stronger concentrate to treat mental illness - i have my 1oz of oil containing 100mg of CBD - meanwhile the study used something like 400mg as one dose...

 

[oakley1984]

http://www.scielo.br/pdf/bjmbr/v39n4/6164.pdf
and just fyi i currently have my medical license for mj as an antipsychotic for schizo
its quite effective. but does nothing for depression.

 

[ford442]

nice! thanks for the link!

ya.. they are talking about doses up from 600mg to 1250mg per day.. hmm.. well, come on CO and grow us some hemp! it turns out that we can buy the dixiex oils without even using a prescription because it is made from hemp and not weed..

 

[oakley1984]

this is why i said high quality honey oil is about where its at... ~1-2gram+ a day
gets to the point with it tho that you no longer get high off pot, you become immune... its terrible.
smoking/toking becomes a chore
its no longer enjoyable.

but on the other hand... living day to day completely delusional, is way worse.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

Have you tried ingesting it instead of smoking it Oakley? The liver does change things that go through your stomach, might not work as well.

 

[oakley1984]

learn about cannabinoid receptors in your body and you will learn why inhalation is the only choice for schizophrenic users.