How would you control guns?

[NLXSK1]

in places like california you need a non detachable magazine
Bullet buttons are jsut a way manufacturers get around that requirement

Non-detachable magazine?

Wouldnt that defeat the purpose of having magazines?

This is why I say Fuck California....

 

[budlover13]

no, it's because it came up for renewal during a republican presidency and congress, dumbass.







the mag limit would have mitigated the tucson massacre. having to buy multiple guns and clips and extend your own clips is all extra nonsense that makes it tougher to do what you can do easily with a 33 round clip.

a 10 mag limit would have ended the tucson massacre before more people were killed or injured.

i've read it several times now but i've never seen a 33 round magazine.

 

[budlover13]

in places like california you need a non detachable magazine
Bullet buttons are jsut a way manufacturers get around that requirement

They make a little magnetic bullet-button tool that converts it into a standard release. Can't use it when hunting but you can for target practice. So, how effective has that fixed-mag requirement been?

 

[ChesusRice]

They make a little magnetic bullet-button tool that converts it into a standard release. Can't use it when hunting but you can for target practice. So, how effective has that fixed-mag requirement been?

You can have a AR15 with any size magazine you want in the UK you can even have silencers without any paperwork (actually recommended)
Want to know what they look like?

notice that little bolt thing sticking out of the side?

That's right. They have to be bolt action

 

[budlover13]

california requires all "bad guns" which look like the AR 15 to have a mag eject button which hides deep inside the rifle, making mag changes slower. the mag release hides at the bottom of a well that is JUST THE RIGHT SIZE for a .223 round to poke the mag release catch.

the "bullet button" is a little magnet attached to a metal or plastic rod that clicks onto the recessed magazine release and provides a removable raised "Button" which disables the "poke a stick in there to eject the mag" nonsense.

basically california wants to ban magnets and 1/2 inch metal rods, since, like a cut rate captain planet, when their two powers combine, they form... a solution to a bureaucracy's foolishness.

The "bullet-button" is the term for the magazine release with the recessed pin. The "bullet-button TOOL is what you describe. I now have all the components to build my AR except for the bullet-button. My lower guts kit came with a standard release which is legal, until it's mounted on the gun. Now I gotta go buy a special mag release button and a little magnetic tool to to make it a non bullet-button release. So regardless, I will have a quickly removable magazine. By the way, the magnet part is not for the purpose of keeping it attached to the bullet-button it is so it can be attached to the metal of the firearm so it doesn't get lost.

 

[budlover13]

You can have a AR15 with any size magazine you want in the UK you can even have silencers without any paperwork (actually recommended)
Want to know what they look like?

notice that little bolt thing sticking out of the side?

That's right. They have to be bolt action

While bolts have their function, I prefer a factory semi-auto. You know how fast hogs can run when charging you because your first shot didn't put him down? Them bastards are mean.

 

[Dr Kynes]

in places like california you need a non detachable magazine
Bullet buttons are jsut a way manufacturers get around that requirement

thats a fine example of polishing a turd. the law at question which makes "bullet buttons" useful is so stupid and useless as to be laughable.

the mags are not non-detachable, they just have an irritating hole you have to poke a bullet into to make the mag drop. the "bullet button" is just a magnet on a stick with a button that fills the hole so you have a removable magazine catch button.

the intention for having the hole in the side with the mag catch at the bottom is not to make the mags non-detachable, but to make mag changes slower. they could have done the same by requiring all mags be coated in Acme brand axle grease, or forcing us all to wear boxing gloves, all the time.

if i intend to commit a crime with an AR, the FIRST step is to install a standard magazine catch (available from many retailers, perfectly legal to own, until you install it). if having a really annoying magazine catch prevents a single crime, i propose this crime could have been prevented by requiring all gun purchasers to pinky swear that they wont shoot up a school.

Where is that "sensible" gun regulation? after all no mass child murder plotter would violate the sanctity of the pinky swear?

that would be monstrous!!

 

[Doer]

God help us! It is even worse than I thought. I see, to make the mag change slower so the bad guys get a chance to flank.

Great thinking. I couldn't think that way.

I was thinking, how do we form militia if we can't easily change magazines?

My bad.

 

[Dr Kynes]

The "bullet-button" is the term for the magazine release with the recessed pin. The "bullet-button TOOL is what you describe. I now have all the components to build my AR except for the bullet-button. My lower guts kit came with a standard release which is legal, until it's mounted on the gun. Now I gotta go buy a special mag release button and a little magnetic tool to to make it a non bullet-button release. So regardless, I will have a quickly removable magazine. By the way, the magnet part is not for the purpose of keeping it attached to the bullet-button it is so it can be attached to the metal of the firearm so it doesn't get lost.

meh youre half right.

the "bullet button" mag release my bro uses on his tinker toy was purchased separately, as you describe.

but his "bullet button" mag release tool snaps in and sticks to his button by the magnet, leaving a protruding removable mag release which can be taken out at the approach of lawer infursemint offisurs. he always referred to THAT device as his "bullet button" so i had to go get clarification.

interestingly, since most AR's are made of aluminium, your assertion as to the actual purpose of the magnet on the mag release "tool" is mistaken. it DOES stick to the recessed button, keeping it in place during rifle operation.

he further informs me that the lawer infursement offisurs at his favorite shooting range tell him his "tool" (a rod with a magnet on the end) is "Illegal" but the recessed magazine catch is not. (???)
according to my bro, the cop told him "you gotta use a bullet or it's illegal to use the bullet button", but from that statement either the cop at question is a moron, or my bro has poor english comprehension skills. either possibility is on the table...

 

[Dr Kynes]

While bolts have their function, I prefer a factory semi-auto. You know how fast hogs can run when charging you because your first shot didn't put him down? Them bastards are mean.

if youre planning to hunt hogs with a n AR15, you need to consider the .308 caliber AR10.

even a .30/30 often just irritates the big ones.

if you plan on dropping ~$3000 for a semi-auto hog gun, get a garand, or a nice shotgun with a cylinder bore and some slugs.

 

[Rob Roy]

his "feeling safer" is responsible for innocent bloodshed, demonstrably so.

you don't need 100 rounds unless you're a douche.

The person that killed kids is responsible, nobody else.

 

[budlover13]

meh youre half right.

the "bullet button" mag release my bro uses on his tinker toy was purchased separately, as you describe.

but his "bullet button" mag release tool snaps in and sticks to his button by the magnet, leaving a protruding removable mag release which can be taken out at the approach of lawer infursemint offisurs. he always referred to THAT device as his "bullet button" so i had to go get clarification.

interestingly, since most AR's are made of aluminium, your assertion as to the actual purpose of the magnet on the mag release "tool" is mistaken. it DOES stick to the recessed button, keeping it in place during rifle operation.

he further informs me that the lawer infursement offisurs at his favorite shooting range tell him his "tool" (a rod with a magnet on the end) is "Illegal" but the recessed magazine catch is not. (???)
according to my bro, the cop told him "you gotta use a bullet or it's illegal to use the bullet button", but from that statement either the cop at question is a moron, or my bro has poor english comprehension skills. either possibility is on the table...

i'm still learning the intricacies of the laws in regards to the AR family of firearms. Gonna have to dig a little. The recessed mag release is not only legal but required here in Cali and the sole purpose is to slow mag changes. That magnetic tool sticks to any ferrous metal on your gun. The upper has lots of metal as do many stocks. I was reading the packaging that came with my buddy's button tool and it specifically stated that it was not magnetized in order to keep it attached to the button but to make it easier to keep track of by storing it on a metal surface. It is legal to use but it is supposed to be removed after use.

 

[budlover13]

if youre planning to hunt hogs with a n AR15, you need to consider the .308 caliber AR10.

even a .30/30 often just irritates the big ones.

if you plan on dropping ~$3000 for a semi-auto hog gun, get a garand, or a nice shotgun with a cylinder bore and some slugs.

i'm about $2k into it right now and am waiting for the lower to arrive so I can assemble it. I hear ya on the .308 being a better hawg gun but i'm building this for multiple applications. I want to be able to hunt small to mid-sized game, from squirrels to deer. I can fire rounds from 35-65 grains with the 1 in 9 RH twist i'm running. Almost got a 1 in 7 so I can run the 77 grain which damn near matches the ballistics of the 6.8 but I chose to go for general utility and flexibility instead. The 5.56 will do fine by a hawg when using quality ammo.

 

[ChesusRice]

i'm about $2k into it right now and am waiting for the lower to arrive so I can assemble it. I hear ya on the .308 being a better hawg gun but i'm building this for multiple applications. I want to be able to hunt small to mid-sized game, from squirrels to deer. I can fire rounds from 35-65 grains with the 1 in 9 RH twist i'm running. Almost got a 1 in 7 so I can run the 77 grain which damn near matches the ballistics of the 6.8 but I chose to go for general utility and flexibility instead. The 5.56 will do fine by a hawg when using quality ammo.

Stick with 5.56 for one reason and one reason only
Availability of ammo

 

[Doer]

The person that killed kids is responsible, nobody else.

No, he had diminished capacity. His poor dead mother is solely responsible.

She, by all accounts, was a bit checked out, in denial, trying to have it both ways, not acting responsibly, ignoring the warning signs, etc.

So, a Mom wanted a sweet kid, she can teach to kill, then ignore. And she also wanted said kid, locked up, which caused him to kill.

The Mom.

 

[ak47caretaker]

give everybody a gun, nobody will pull out a gun and start shooting if they know everyone around them is going to shoot back

 

[budlover13]

Stick with 5.56 for one reason and one reason only
Availability of ammo

Yeah, I was thinking about that as well. That's why I didn't go with the 1 in 7 twist. Too specialized and limits the range of bullet sizes I can run because of stability issues from what I've learned.

 

[Doer]

i'm still learning the intricacies of the laws in regards to the AR family of firearms. Gonna have to dig a little. The recessed mag release is not only legal but required here in Cali and the sole purpose is to slow mag changes. That magnetic tool sticks to any ferrous metal on your gun. The upper has lots of metal as do many stocks. I was reading the packaging that came with my buddy's button tool and it specifically stated that it was not magnetized in order to keep it attached to the button but to make it easier to keep track of by storing it on a metal surface. It is legal to use but it is supposed to be removed after use.

So, with injured hands, you can't protect yourself.

 

[ChesusRice]

Yeah, I was thinking about that as well. That's why I didn't go with the 1 in 7 twist. Too specialized and limits the range of bullet sizes I can run because of stability issues from what I've learned.

Want to try new ammo? Get more uppers. lots of possibilitys

 

[budlover13]

So, with injured hands, you can't protect yourself.

Or if you're simply pumping adrenaline and fumble with the bullet button. Practice, practice, practice.....