How would you control guns?

[UncleBuck]

Deterred? He killed a bunch of people.................................

did he buy the guns he was trying to buy? or did he steal them from an irresponsible gun nut?

How do you enforce people locking their guns up? You still haven't answered any of the questions on how to regulate.

how do you get people to stop at a four way stop sign in the middle of nowhere?

Sounds safe enough to depend on. Maybe more suicide bombers would be better than people with guns?

get back to me when we have a rash of school bombings.

No, its punishment after the crime. Regulations prevent things from happening. Maybe I should specify preventative regulations. Im not sure of the exact terminology. amiright?

requiring people to lock up their guns at the consequence of a major punishment is a preventative regulation. it would have prevented the lanza massacre.

 

[UncleBuck]

Saying something is FACT... does not make it a FACT. Please provide PROOF.

it's all documented fact. maybe cite another white supremacist and prove me wrong or something.

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

a 10 round mag would have saved lives in tucson. FACT.

Assumption with an impractical fantasy regulation.

more guns didn't save lives in tucson. FACT.

Neither did gun laws. FACT.

 

[zambonic]

So as usual you have nothing. A bunch of fucking hot worthless air.

it's all documented fact. maybe cite another white supremacist and prove me wrong or something.

 

[UncleBuck]

Assumption with an impractical fantasy regulation.

not assumption. loughner was not stopped by people on the scene with guns, he was stopped when he went to put a new 33 round mag in his gun. FACT.

and the regulation is not impractical fantasy, we've done it before. it was in place from 1994-2004 and then not renewed.

Neither did gun laws. FACT.

what gun laws? the gun law that would have mitigated the massacre was not renewed!

 

[UncleBuck]

So as usual you have nothing. A bunch of fucking hot worthless air.

cool disproof from a douche who is fond of quotes from white supremacists.

 

[SnakeByte]

I voted:
background checks, Limiting types of weapons, gun free zones and other.

Other:
- Have anyone who wants to own a firearm pass a test (which would be standard for everyone from Police to gun range) in the language of their own choosing.
This test will comprise of simple math, problem solving skills, and general knowledge of firearm use and up-to-date regulations.
If you fail this test an amount of times and still would like to own a firearm, see a psychologist (on your own dime) and get written permission (if deemed mentally stable) to attempt again.

If someone is too purposefully ignorant or too damn stupid, they shouldn't be handling a firearm.The test is to somewhat determine that. If someone fails a few times, then that could be a sign that they have a learning/mental/other disability. It would be designed so that a teen could complete it. As young'uns tend to go hunting with parents round 16 where I am.

If the psycologist says they are mentally capable of handling a firearm ON THEIR OWN, then they can retake the test. This cycle then is not breakable. You can keep trying for as long as you are "mentally capable".
Until either:
A) You finally Pass
B) You fail the background check and need to complete you terms of sanction or get the problem rectified with a judge or "Chief firearms officer"
OR
C) You are deemed too mentally unstable to carry, use, or be around a firearm by a psychologist for good or until further notice depending on severity of illness.

Limiting types of weapons and have metal detectors in front of all gun-free zones will help to drastically undermine gun crime IMHO.
Sure, there are always ways to get guns illegally, but then the price is always steeper for cost and punishment of trafficking or owning illegal weapons or just having them illegally. AND Not everyone has those kinds of means.

It's been proven over time ("Time Tested" as they say) that too many people cannot be trusted to make the right decisions when it counts.
Guess general public just needs to have it's hand held til it grows up... Which is not likely to EVER happen

 

[zambonic]

Uncle buck translation: I still do not have anything to back up my stupid ass, so I will call you names. Also like a little baby I must always have the last word.

cool disproof from a douche who is fond of quotes from white supremacists.

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

did he buy the guns he was trying to buy? or did he steal them from an irresponsible gun nut?

he found ways around ineffective gun regulations to get them. Prohibition doesn't work, ever.

how do you get people to stop at a four way stop sign in the middle of nowhere?

Ticketing them. Do you want cops to come in your house and give you tickets for safety violations?

get back to me when we have a rash of school bombings.

More likely than having effective preventitive gun regulations.

requiring people to lock up their guns at the consequence of a major punishment is a preventative regulation. it would have prevented the lanza massacre.

Assumption. Although I agree with this approach because it doesn't punish the innocent.

 

[UncleBuck]

he found ways around ineffective gun regulations to get them. Prohibition doesn't work, ever.

who's calling for prohibition? all i want is a gun safe.

Ticketing them.

is there a cop at every single four way in the middle of nowhere?

 

[UncleBuck]

Uncle buck translation: I still do not have anything to back up my stupid ass, so I will call you names. Also like a little baby I must always have the last word.

you can read up on the facts of what happened that day and apologize after.

 

[bwest]

How would we enforce magazine limits?



So the background check did not work, then? How would we ensure people lock up their weapons by government enforcement? Would we have gun safe checks by law enforcement? Would we make it a mandatory purchase with every gun? or both?

all the people with CCW in tucson did nothing to stop loughner, he was only stopped when he went to change his 30 round mag.

a 10 round mag would have saved many lives in tucson that day. more guns didn't. FACT.



a secure gun safe. lanza went out to buy his own guns beforehand but didn't because he didn't want to do a background check. his mother left her guns nice and unsecured though.

Lanza did try to buy weapons, but failed the background check. So yes, the background check did work. His mom failed in her duties.

 

[UncleBuck]

Lanza did try to buy weapons, but failed the background check. So yes, the background check did work. His mom failed in her duties.

i only read about it once, but i heard he declined to even go for the background check.

in either case, it's an example of common sense gun safety. i think something like 95% of americans are for background checks.

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

not assumption. loughner was not stopped by people on the scene with guns, he was stopped when he went to put a new 33 round mag in his gun. FACT.

and the regulation is not impractical fantasy, we've done it before. it was in place from 1994-2004 and then not renewed.

Not renewed because its impractical and unenforceable.

what gun laws? the gun law that would have mitigated the massacre was not renewed!

The background checks did nothing. The gun free zones did nothing. But, if somehow, we could force everyone from having too many rounds in their guns at once, then the shooting would have been stopped, because you can predict a gun controlled utopian future and call your claim fact, with no reasonable explanation of how to control gun clip sizes.

and because limiting sales on stuff people don't like ever works.
and because shooters cant carry multiple clips.
and because shooters can't carry multiple guns.
and because people can't easily extend their own clips.
and because there aren't already millions of "oversized' clips out there already.

You are delusional.

 

[desert dude]

Lanza did try to buy weapons, but failed the background check. So yes, the background check did work. His mom failed in her duties.

If you insist on quoting the rumor at least get the rumor correct. Lanza declined to take a background check so he neither passed nor failed it. As far as I can tell, nobody knows whether his mother failed in her duties. It seems that she kept her guns locked up.

Nobody is to blame here except Adam Lanza himself. He was probably insane, so even he (probably) gets a pass.

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

Lanza did try to buy weapons, but failed the background check. So yes, the background check did work. His mom failed in her duties.

The background check prevented the shootings?

 

[zambonic]

You are the one saying that it is a fact 10 rnd mags would have saved lives big mouth. Show me the proof.

you can read up on the facts of what happened that day and apologize after.

 

[UncleBuck]

Not renewed because its impractical and unenforceable.

no, it's because it came up for renewal during a republican presidency and congress, dumbass.

The background checks did nothing. The gun free zones did nothing. But, if somehow, we could force everyone from having too many rounds in their guns at once, then the shooting would have been stopped, because you can predict a gun controlled utopian future and call your claim fact, with no reasonable explanation of how to control gun clip sizes.

and because limiting sales on stuff people don't like ever works.
and because shooters cant carry multiple clips.
and because shooters can't carry multiple guns.
and because people can't easily extend their own clips.

You are delusional.

the mag limit would have mitigated the tucson massacre. having to buy multiple guns and clips and extend your own clips is all extra nonsense that makes it tougher to do what you can do easily with a 33 round clip.

a 10 mag limit would have ended the tucson massacre before more people were killed or injured.

 

[lifegoesonbrah]

who's calling for prohibition? all i want is a gun safe.


You still haven't explained how this would be enforced.





is there a cop at every single four way in the middle of nowhere?

You never know where those fuckers could be hiding. Kind of like random safety checks at your home, you would never know when they're coming. You should really come out in full support of random home safety checks.

 

[UncleBuck]

The background check prevented the shootings?

it kept him from getting a gun, if only his gun nut mother had responsibly secured her guns.

securing your guns seems like common sense.