Evaporating Green Dragon: Everclear Hash

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

Ive used BHO QWISO and now a new method using 100% Grain Alcohol (Everclear)

I want to see for myself the differences between these three methods for making hash from evaporating a liquid solvent. I've kept the whole process relatively similar.


1oz of dried low-grade heady nugget.
Placed in the freezer with the Everclear for about 2 hours.

Filled up a jar with the frozen nug
poured the alcohol over the bud until it was just a little pass the buds

In the closed jar I agitated the nugget for about 60 seconds

The solution is poured through a coffee filter / metal strainer and into a small square Pyrex dish

At this point the solution is practically Green Dragon. A tincture that can be consumed in low doses for an absinthe like high.

Evaporating the Green Dragon tincture will leave a hash oil like substance.

Anyone familiar with making QWISO would recognize the process is is very similar.

100% Grain alcohol (Everclear) does not evaporate like (92%) Isopropyl Alcohol does. It takes a lot longer, unlike the few hours Iso takes.

Making BHO QWISO etc inside is potentially dangerous / harmful be careful allow proper ventilation and safety

I am letting the Green Dragon tincture evaporate now as I did with the QWISO I would like to see how long it would take letting it sit out but in the morning I will make sure to get the final product done.

Will post the end result / weight tomorrow!

Soon I am going to do a larger extraction with my favorite method and I will detail it with pictures as well.

thank you for checking out my post

 

[vacpurge]

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

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[MrGreenTooth]

How much easier can it be...you take the bud, poor EC over it till it's drowned, then filter off the green EC and evaporate it, why do we need pics ?

 

[Fadedawg]

Good job!

Actually, a 60 second frozen wash might more properly be called brown dragon, as it sidesteps the chlorophyll. When we make an ethanol tincture, we also use 3 minute quick wash frozen techniques and strive for brown dragon, rather than green dragon, because it is so much more tasty.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

That looks delicious fadedawg ^_^

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

I've left the tincture over night to evaporate and it did a good job evaporating still I'm left with a nice amount of alcohol.. I wondering if the best idea would be to leave it out and let it do its thing or if I should just carefully boil off the remaining bit of EC

 

[Moon Goblin]

that shit will take forever to evaporate- if you can leave it out, but protected from pollen, bugs, bird poop, etc. let it run its coarse- dont deviate from your master plan- be patient.

Also, look out for condensation, or morning dew, getting in there.

 

[Fadedawg]

If you are using this orally, it needs to be decarboxylated, so I would suggest transfering it to a suitable container and setting it in a 250F oil bath to purge and decarboxylate.

 

[Muffy]

If you are using this orally, it needs to be decarboxylated, so I would suggest transfering it to a suitable container and setting it in a 250F oil bath to purge and decarboxylate.

Purge of what? The alcohol is what makes it a tincture. Is that not what we're going for in this case? Is smoking hash better than dropping tincture?

 

[SnakeByte]

DO NOT CONSUME ISO HASH. Isopropyl Alcohol is created chemically and is meant as fuel addative and for external use ONLY. It won't kill you instantly but not good for you like Naphtha hash.

Grain Alcohol evaporates at 76C. This is the safest to consume.

Slow simmer it on medium with a fan to get rid of most of the alcohol then use a blow dryer to get rid of the rest of the alcohol - Like you do making any other solvent hash such as Ether or Naphtha. (THANKFULLY, These have become less and less popular since water and Ethanol hash have been growing)

Tinctures won't give you the psychoactive effects of MJ unless heated... MJ needs to be heated to at least 50C in order to activate THC. Simply ingesting it is not enough. If you don't heat it, anything you feel will be coming from the alcohol.
The average core body temp doesn't go above 35-37C unless you're ill with fever or something.

Everclear hash is not really that new. You can only have hash if you evaporate ALL the alcohol first then compress with vice or hash press after (tho compression is not ABSOLUTELY needed).

Otherwise, if you keep the alcohol it's a tincture - if you evaporate MOST of the alcohol, it's hash oil.

Purge of what? The alcohol is what makes it a tincture. Is that not what we're going for in this case? Is smoking hash better than dropping tincture?

It really depends on potency/concentration of the tincture. But Tincture is obviously better for the lungs.

 

[Muffy]

How do you prepare the oil bath? What's an easy and safe way to heat to 50C without losing alcohol?

 

[SSHZ]

A 60 second stir seems a bit short on time.......I like to go a few minutes more than that.

A fan blowing over the drying mix will help quicken evaporation.

 

[SnakeByte]

How do you prepare the oil bath? What's an easy and safe way to heat to 50C without losing alcohol?

Boiling the mason jar in water then bringing to a simmer.
Put Mason jar lids on the bottom of the pot so the jar is not sitting directly on the metal.
If you lose some alcohol when trying to make a tincture, it's ok as long as you don't lose too much. But if you do, just add more.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

A 60 second stir seems a bit short on time.......I like to go a few minutes more than that.

A fan blowing over the drying mix will help quicken evaporation.

This is interesting some people say 60 seconds is too long while others say it is not long enough.
I heard if you let it sit in the alcohol for more than say 60 seconds you're extracting other plant material such as chlorophyll.


I personally do not like ISO or BHO hash because I would not want to ingest Butane or Isopropyl Alcohol, I would much rather ingest Grain Alcohol.

I meant new as in an alternative to the popular BHO and QWISO. but there is little information on grain alcohol hash.
I personally would rather have the hash /oil left from evaporating the green dragon tincture.
Thats just me though.

 

[TheWhiteRabbit420]

How do you prepare the oil bath? What's an easy and safe way to heat to 50C without losing alcohol?

A safer way IMO is a double boil on a skillet in a well ventilated area.
smaller Pyrex dish inside of a larger Pyrex dish with water.

 

[SnakeByte]

Ya Pyrex dishes are far more convenient to make hash with through solvent than jars.

 

[M Dogg]

Use a candy thermometer but keep the temp below 200F. U wanna activate it but not burn it off (the THC molecules that is).

 

[M Dogg]

What do you think about soak time SnakeByte?

 

[SnakeByte]

Lower than that... Alcohol boils at 173F/78C - Water boils at 212F/100C.
You don't want the alcohol to boil, only evaporate.

What do you think about soak time SnakeByte?

Personally I let it soak overnight, sometimes 48 hrs.
Then squeeze and remove the weed, evaporate, dry, press, dry, press, press, (continuing the press until you get the consistency you like.)

I put my ground up matter (bud, leaf, and stem) in the freezer overnight first though. It allows the triches to come off the bud and more easily extracted.