can't win? change the rules to make it easier... the republican way....

[st0wandgrow]

It is a law to have an ID on you at all times. Why is it a bad thing to have voter ID laws? The Obama administration proved that the democrats can win the election easy if you go to every inner city and preach that you will be giving people with nothing something that they do not have to work for. The last two elections already proved the system is flawed.

Give me a break! Conservatives think it's A-OK for anyone to go buy an AR-15 with no ID, no background check, and no questions asked ..... but if you want to cast a ballot you need to give a quart of blood and your first born child.

 

[st0wandgrow]

It is a law to have an ID on you at all times. Why is it a bad thing to have voter ID laws? The Obama administration proved that the democrats can win the election easy if you go to every inner city and preach that you will be giving people with nothing something that they do not have to work for. The last two elections already proved the system is flawed.

"It is a law to have an ID on you at all times."

Can you point me to this law?

 

[st0wandgrow]

Democrats win more often now because there are more people who vote for a living than those who work for a living.

SMH

Do you holler at kids to get off of your lawn too?

 

[Saltrock]

Democrats win more often now because there are more people who vote for a living than those who work for a living.

You are right, up until 2008 everybody wanted to work. Only until Obama was president everybody got lazy. Do you hear yourself? Don't you think the situation of america's joblessness might be a little more complicated then just Obama being elected. Why don't you blame global economy, why don't you blame big business, why you don't you blame outsourcing, why don't you blame living in a capitalistic society, because living in capitalistic society there is always going to be depressions and recessions. One thing going through depressions and recessions is we need time to get out of them.

Peace
Salt

 

[desert dude]

You are right, up until 2008 everybody wanted to work. Only until Obama was president everybody got lazy. Do you hear yourself? Don't you think the situation of america's joblessness might be a little more complicated then just Obama being elected. Why don't you blame global economy, why don't you blame big business, why you don't you blame outsourcing, why don't you blame living in a capitalistic society, because living in capitalistic society there is always going to be depressions and recessions. One thing going through depressions and recessions is we need time to get out of them.

Peace
Salt

Trolled you pretty good, didn't I?

 

[Saltrock]

What ever trolled means. I guess it takes a troll to know what a trolling is. I think you fall along the lines of a trool, a tool and a troll. Good response by the way.

Peace
Salt

 

[beenthere]

the republican establishment is looking to change election rules to make it easier for them to win.

http://news.yahoo.com/gop-eyes-election-laws-091622720--election.html


talk about sore losers...

Republicans are pretty stupid IMO. All they have do is offer free shit in exchange for votes, it works great for the left.

 

[UncleBuck]

Republicans are pretty stupid IMO. All they have do is offer free shit in exchange for votes, it works great for the left.

i voted for obama and still haven't received my free shit.

but you were totally right about those skewed polls, now weren't ya?



welcome back, neon yellow guy.

 

[Red1966]

It is a law to have an ID on you at all times. Why is it a bad thing to have voter ID laws? The Obama administration proved that the democrats can win the election easy if you go to every inner city and preach that you will be giving people with nothing something that they do not have to work for. The last two elections already proved the system is flawed.

You're not required to carry ID in the USA.

 

[Red1966]

I contacted north bergen police in NY. They stated that there is a very old law that you must have a state issued id on you at all times. If not you will get a ticket for failure to produce id. Same in nj. That's when not driving.

The US Supreme Court said you are not required to carry ID. Those cops you spoke to were wrong. If there ever was such a law, it is no longer valid.

 

[Red1966]

Actually, it is federal law that requires all non-citizens to carry identification paperwork on them at all times.

But citizens do not have to carry ID.

 

[Red1966]

Yes and rewarding them by gerrymandered district is also up to the states(which is the republican plan). House democrats got more votes than house republicans this past election yet sit in clear minority. That is what gerrymandering districts does to democracy.

You have selective vision. Gerrymandering is a long and bipartisan tradition. Stating only Republicans have done it shows a lack of knowledge or objectivity or both.

 

[Red1966]

democrats gerrymander just as much, or more, than republicans.

racist!!!!

 

[TroncoChe]

It is a law to have an ID on you at all times. Why is it a bad thing to have voter ID laws? The Obama administration proved that the democrats can win the election easy if you go to every inner city and preach that you will be giving people with nothing something that they do not have to work for. The last two elections already proved the system is flawed.

Socialist republicans want us to be property of the government. The people have nothing to prove to government while the government steals our money but they have to show us nothing.

 

[TroncoChe]

i didn't hear anything about giving people. anyways that statement's incomplete, giving people what? making the argument as vague as possible doesn't make the argument correct.

i heard that it was more about a level playing field for everybody, where everybody has a shot to make it...

voter ID laws disenfranchise voters that would otherwise be able to vote by putting unnecessary ID obligations on the table.

even the mere act of voter fraud, which these laws are supposed to protect against, is so scarce that statistics on them are extremely hard to come by. if there were multiple instances of people voting more than once, in every city, in every state, throughout the country, then yes, I would understand. but that is not the case. people in this country get out of work, go vote, and go right back to the office. we don't have time for that shit.... this has nothing to do with voter fraud, and everything to do with skewing elections.

Voter fraud is mostly for local government. The big elections are already fixed.

 

[UncleBuck]

You're not required to carry ID in the USA.

The US Supreme Court said you are not required to carry ID. Those cops you spoke to were wrong. If there ever was such a law, it is no longer valid.

But citizens do not have to carry ID.

apply directly to forehead!

APPLY DIRECTLY TO FOREHEAD!

APPLY DIRECTLY TO FOREHEAD!

 

[TroncoChe]

I think the purpose of this is more to keep non-citizens from voting, which makes sense, seeing as how they shouldn't even be here to start with.

I always go to native american reservations and vote, they always tell me the same thing.

 

[TroncoChe]

No law where I live saying I need to carry an ID.

Allow me to translate the rest of your post for us non neocons:

The evil Marxist and his Socialist party proved that they can win an election by catering to people other than rich white suburbanites. The last 2 elections proved they have overcome our strategy and popularity, were now aware of our flaws. We need to keep non whites from voting, oh how I pine fer the good ole days of Strom Thurmond and Jim Crow laws

Republicans are just as marxist or socialist as democrats, they just want to steal money for different reasons then dems

 

[TroncoChe]

there is no law requiring you to carry ID at all times.

you are required by law and regulation to bear a drivers license at all times when driving, but if youre walking your dog, going to the corner shop, riding public transit or bicycling you are not required to possess ID at all.

to do many things, like cash a check, board a plane, rent a hotel room, rent a car (duh) request a loan from a bank, or any of a variety of other things you are required to prove your identity, but you are otherwise NOT required to carry ID.

there are several state laws which require that if a cop asks for ID you must present it, but if you do not have any ID on you, you cannot be compelled to present what you do not posses.
there are also several states which require that when a cop asks who you are you MUST identify yourself, but there is still no requirement to have ID
the few states which have attempted to create a mandatory ID law have had their proposals shot down on constitutional grounds, usually before they get out of committee, and there is no federal law requiring ID.

Oh now you want to make sense.

 

[UncleBuck]

Republicans are just as marxist or socialist as democrats, they just want to steal money for different reasons then dems

rawn pawl 4 evah!