a mongo frog
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What hoods r u rocking?
3x1000 watt indoor medical grow
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bazookajoe
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Just read all 142 posts and I'm interested for sure bc I'm using pre amended soil mix, mixed with gh xtra soil and mykos. I feed with gh flora duo 2 part with floralicious plus. I was on a feed water feed schedule @ half strength with my 2 in flower until I noticed n def in the bigger of the 2 as the leaves started fading into a lighter green than the lower fan leaves.. should I feed every time or up the dosage..? its in a 3 gal smart pot fed about 3/4gal every 4-5 days... tips advice?.. subbed up btw. Let's keep this thread bumpin so some of us can learn some shit 
a mongo frog
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R u sure it is an N def that is going on? Did u veg in the soil mix u explained? How long did u veg ( how old is the plant )Just read all 142 posts and I'm interested for sure bc I'm using pre amended soil mix, mixed with gh xtra soil and mykos. I feed with gh flora duo 2 part with floralicious plus. I was on a feed water feed schedule @ half strength with my 2 in flower until I noticed n def in the bigger of the 2 as the leaves started fading into a lighter green than the lower fan leaves.. should I feed every time or up the dosage..? its in a 3 gal smart pot fed about 3/4gal every 4-5 days... tips advice?.. subbed up btw. Let's keep this thread bumpin so some of us can learn some shit
if u think your nutes in your soil have run thin, then I would blast that mother fucker into outer space. I would go blast that fucker, blast that fucker, then a ph clear water.
bazookajoe
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It sprouted on 11-7 in a 1.5" rw cube, Its been in the same mix since 11-11 when I put it into a 1 gal pot vegged for roughly 6 wks from seed and it was fine. Transplanted into 3gal smarty and its been flowerin for 17 days now. I'm pretty sure its n def bc there is nothing else goin on or lookin outta whack just leaves slowly fading to a limish green. I think it was from light feeding bc I'm not sure how heavy the pot should be after I feed.. there's some runoff but not a lot n that's bout when I stop pourin. Hope this makes sense
a mongo frog
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Without a pic I'm just shooting in the dark, but I too think its from light feeding. Wait for fried rice or another reg in this thread before making your next move. It seems that everyone in this thread so far knows their shit. And yes u make perfect sense.
bazookajoe
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Thanks for ur quick replies bro, and also ur time and input. Ill hang out for a bit n wait like u said before I do anything else. I'm not in a med state and usin my phone so sorta sketched out bout postin pix w/gps or whatever.
Thundercat
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Which leaves is it that are turning lime green? Just the very top leaves? You said you started flowering it already, has it actually started producing pistols and building flowers?
Sorry for all the questions just analyzing whats going on without pictures. Is there any actual yellowing or is the top growth just lime green?
Its very common with all my plants that when I start to flower them the new fresh growth is always lime green, and as it gets older and develops turns more dark green.
Sorry for all the questions just analyzing whats going on without pictures. Is there any actual yellowing or is the top growth just lime green?
Its very common with all my plants that when I start to flower them the new fresh growth is always lime green, and as it gets older and develops turns more dark green.
Friedrice
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Like Thundercat cat said is it the top leaves that are fading?
I sounds like nitrogen deficiency for sure but N def starts at the new growth and then spreads downwards.
It is what is considered as a MOBILE nutrient. It can travel up and down the stalk, and N will be sent to the older growth before the newer growth.
I suggest slightly upping the amount you feed.
If its just the top growth that is light green and over time gets darker, your fine. Like I think Thundercat was implying.
Thank you for leading me to my next part of discussion: watering your plants.
I never do preharvest flushing. NEVER.
I flush throughout the flowering stage of the plant.
I was waiting for Mr. Green Scene or someone else to chime in on the question I had ask.
What happens to the PH of the water when nutrients are added?
Most people know that the ph of the water will drop.
When it rains in nature, with nutrient rich water, the ph of that water is going to be leaning towards that acidic ends of things.
Why is this important you ask?
It is important because when that water falls there is NO nutrient uptake because the water is acidic.
They go into "sleep mode" drink nothing but tiny amounts of water.
The plant does not sleep during the dark hours, it is still doing things.
It sleeps when it receives very acidic water.
It awakens when the sun comes out.
What do you think happens when she wakes up?
What do you think the plant is going to be feeling?
When feeding nutrients, you dont need that much runoff.
But when feeding "sleep" water, you need to have a good amount of runoff.
Drowning the roots is the important thing when feeding "sleep" water.
I start at 1/4 strength and go up 1/8 every feeding.
The trick is to mimic the outdoor environment.
Think about nature!
Hope this makes sense
bazookajoe
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The newest growth is the limest and its fading downward. Yep she's got flowers forming
just lime no yellowing.I hope mine does the same lol
bazookajoe
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Thundercat
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If its just slighly light green on ust the top its likely cus it is starting to flower, as long as once they start getting a little bigger the darken up I thinkk your fine. I'm sure bumping up the feeding a 1/4 won't hurt anything. A bit of run off each time is a good thing any way.
Friedrice
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Like I said, if the tip area is lime but get darker don't change anything.
By amount I don't mean more water just more nutes
Mr. Green Scene
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Sorry, I'm a lackie...............................but that's what I was thinking, that the PH would drop with the addition of nutrients. I have a bit of fan leaf tip yellowing, but my top new growth looks great. I have been reading about fimming and scrog/LST. So many new acronyms.................
Would fimming and LST be something your thinking I should undertake?.................................................
Would fimming and LST be something your thinking I should undertake?.................................................
Friedrice
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its all good man, I understand people are busy and have lives. Someone else brought it up and it led me right into my next subject so I had to take advantage
you know I don't have much personal experience with any of these.
But here is my take on things:
lst'ing is something you do if you are tight on space.
As far as fimming goes, I am not fully convinced about it.
i honestly don't trust a technique called fuck I missed.
if you plan on flowering plants that came from a seed, topping is definitely something to consider.
You can create a nice scrog like that.
But since your working with clones and plan on keeping some as mothers here's what I would do in your situation:
I believe you said you have 10 purple kush clones.
and you want to keep 4 for future mothers.
I would just take the four you want and put under t5 to continue vegging.
when the clones hit around 10 inches Id flower them.
With six plants you should get about six ounces of dried product when your done.
i don't see the sense in topping clones or fimming them.
Lst if you want to save space for sure though.
just takes an extra 2-3 weeks of veg to do it properly.
As far as your light tip burn probably just a little over nute.
hope this helps
Mr. Green Scene
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I'm not tight on space at all, I've built a 6x3x7 enclosure with three Haight pf-1600 led lights. Each light is said to cover a 4x4 area, so I sould be way exceeding the factory spec's. I am hoping to make up for the lackluster perforance encountered by others with this and other led systems with increased density. We shall see how that works for me. I have taken build progress photographs but did not want to clutter your great thread. I may start a more journal type thread starting with those, due to the massive interest in LED technology.
Hear ya there, my friend!!!
It's not going to be long for them to get to there. I will still go at least three weeks regardless.....
Cool, it didn't look to serious............I am definately see signs of growth, especially in the stock. Its thickening, and turning quite purple.
I definately does, and I really appreciate having a sounding board for issues and technical questions, thank-you very much!!!! I will hit you with all the rep. I can........
Friedrice
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Clutter away, its part of the learning! Try to keep it in one or two posts though.
How hot do those LEDs run by the way?
This is why im asking you how hot your lights run.
Trying to get an idea of how far you keep them away.
You have to remember that 1000 watt lights usually on put out about 3-3.5ft of good light and with my hps light i keep them 15-22inches away.
So that on leaves about 1ft-1.5ft of good useable light.
Having a plant grow above 3 feet is just over kill for me.
That is why i brought it up.
Your situation could be different(ive never worked with LEDs).
If your going to veg for 3 weeks and your lights have to be kept further away i would consider taking clones off the bottom portion and sort of lollipopping it.
That way the plant can dedicate its time to the top growth which is in useable light and you get more mommas
Its up to you though, you always have the final say.
Throw some pictures up!
Thanks man, it feels good to know that someone is benefiting off of this
It seems that the more I try and help people, the more my posts go unseen.
Thundercat
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So LSTing, topping/fimming, scroging are all techniques not just to control space, but also to maximize your canopy. If you use any or several of these tools you it will help you to bush out you plants and develope more budding tops. Fimming is nothing more then a variation of topping as I explained several times earlier in this thread. DO NOT BE AFRAID be cause its called fuck i missed. The simple idea is to get more then 2 tops when you top the plant, you cut the growth node at a differant spot to encourage it to sprout more then jsut 2 new tops. I've never had it actually work. I've tried it several times, and each time it simply tops the plant like normal and I get 2 tops instead of multiple.
Friedrice I really don't get the idea you have of treating plants so differantly as clones versus as from seed. A clone is the exact same plant as its mom, so unless you stress the shit out of it it will be just like its mommy was. The quality, the way it grows typically, the maturity, its all the same. I agree with the idea of keeping 4 moms and flowering the others, but I don't understand why you would be so against topping clones. Its just as efficient of a way to get a clone to turn into a bushy plant as it is a seedling.
I'm not trying to rant, but I hate seeing peoples opinions get in the way of actual facts.
Friedrice I really don't get the idea you have of treating plants so differantly as clones versus as from seed. A clone is the exact same plant as its mom, so unless you stress the shit out of it it will be just like its mommy was. The quality, the way it grows typically, the maturity, its all the same. I agree with the idea of keeping 4 moms and flowering the others, but I don't understand why you would be so against topping clones. Its just as efficient of a way to get a clone to turn into a bushy plant as it is a seedling.
I'm not trying to rant, but I hate seeing peoples opinions get in the way of actual facts.
Friedrice
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I just dont like the idea of pinching/cutting of parts of the plant.
Like i said, I dont have much experience in these things. Fimming being one of those. Honestly, it might be just me having a hard time learning new tricks, but my instinct says to not chop/pinch a plant if you can avoid it. I stick by my instinct.
I treat clones differently because seeds have x2 as many bud spots as clones. From my experience it has been more time saving to just put in more clones in smaller pots as oppose to fim/topping them and giving them the extra veg time.
I guess it all depends on how you value things and your cost.
Everyone is different.
I hope you dont take any malice in what im saying, but its good to see people debating.
Thats how you determine what "facts" are.