Mexican brick bagseed: Growing out the schwagg.

[Jogro]

where did all your pictures go!?! sounds like an awesome thread but i don't see anything...

Yes, many of the older images from Rollitup seem to have disappeared. The mod from this forum told me its a glitch and that Rollitup is working on it, but she doesn't have more information that than.

This is annoying. Its now been more than a week and the pictures haven't come back, making me really wonder if they ever will.

For what its worth the picture of the trichromes as my avatar (on the left) is a super-closeup of one of these "schwagg" plants.

Unfortunately, rolliup doesn't seem to let you upload the same image twice, so if I want to repost the images from before, I'll have to edit them.
I'll see about doing this shortly if I can find the time.

 

[Jogro]

OK, for some reason I had to crop these images for RIU to take them, but this seems to have worked. Can't remember exactly what I posted before, but this should cover the "highlights":

Colas under HPS light:


Closeup views of flowers and trichromes:


Buds after 5-6 weeks curing: First shot is with flash to show true lime-green bud color:

 

[psychoholic22]

Love it I really don't have the means to mail order seeds but I got me a shit ton of mex brick seeds time to start sprouting!!!

 

[Jogro]

Love it I really don't have the means to mail order seeds but I got me a shit ton of mex brick seeds time to start sprouting!!!

I'm not sure what you mean by this, but top quality commercial ceeds can be had for as little as $50 shipped to your home, and there are multiple sellers that will accept cash in the mail for payment. (EG, Check out Sannies).

So if you want to grow some "serious" genetics, you probably "can".

 

[lordjin]

That shit actually gets you high?

 

[AnonymousOG]

Don't forget to compress it!!!!!!!

 

[Ilovebush]

sweet sensi...looks nice. I'm sure you can get lucky even with 10 year old brick seed...awesome pics!

 

[highfirejones]

i live in arizona and I thought Id try this, some buds were ok but I definitely appreciate the good genetics after smoking it. What did catch my interest was the vigor and speed of some of the bagseed plants, I crossed some with bluemystic and big bud pollen and should have results in a few months, i just sprouted about 4 of them and they look super healthy, even popped out in the cold. Who knows what could be stumbled upon u know tho Jogro, nice posts!!! peace

 

[Jogro]

That shit actually gets you high?

You bet. It has a nice "up" sativa effect, too.

No, this isn't going to win any awards for potency, but its solid mid-grade stuff. I've definitely grown and smoked "worse" (in fact a lot worse).

Also, whatever it may lack in potency, it makes up for in temperature resistance, drought resistance, yield, and general ease of growth.

Again, this wouldn't be my first pick, but its still better than some of the stuff out there. How many people spend $10 a ceed for low-yielding hermie-prone lines? If you go look at the strain forum, people are complaining all the time about their $100 packs ending up with hermies, etc.

Don't forget to compress it!!!!!!!

Nice.

I actually did "compress" it. . .into awesome hash. (Another reason why IMO, potency is only one of many factors in evaluating a line).

 

[highfirejones]

hash, good idea, half my bagseed harvests went into cookies but next time hash, bubble or alcohol or?

 

[Baywatcher]

My first grow in 1989 was brick seed, and it came out pretty well, all things considered. I certainly wouldn't seek it out again, but it's amazing how much better it is when it doesn't spend any time inside a tire in 120 degree heat...

 

[Jogro]

hash, good idea, half my bagseed harvests went into cookies but next time hash, bubble or alcohol or?

IMO the best quality hash is old school "dry sieve" (ie rubbing through a silk or mesh screen or rotating drum), but that's probably not the most practical for most people to make at home.

Ice-water/bag ("bubble") hash is a very close second (and it can be even better than dry sieve, depending), and a little more practical for small growers, I think. That's what I did in this case, and that's my recommendation for people looking to make hash at home.

I have made alcohol based hash oil years and years ago, but it always tasted nasty; if you want to do one of these liquid solvent extractions, acetone works better, IMO. Butane is probably the best solvent to use, though its probably also the most dangerous (and most expensive). Supposedly you can get excellent results using naphtha, but I've never tried it, and I'd be worried about dangerous residue.

Back in the day (this was before "dabs") I'd take some of this solvent oil, wipe a small drop on the inside of a glass pipe bowl then cook the OUTSIDE with a lighter to vaporize it. You'd take one hit of that, barely feel like you were inhaling anything at all, then end up totally baked!

Anyway, I've long ago given up on these solvent based extracts.

 

[Baywatcher]

The only solvents I endorse anymore are butter and coconut oil they don't smoke very well though....

 

[NRUTHA@COX.NET]

I don't think it the seed that matters,it's the method of curing, and From my experience Mex. swag becomes swag after thet are cut down and shipped, they ship male and female plants together.

 

[olimmilo]

Wonder how it work in the local 106 degree summers?

It does good in mex. so om guessing it should Be ok ?

Just look at date of post ???

 

[Jogro]

I don't think it the seed that matters,it's the method of curing, and From my experience Mex. swag becomes swag after thet are cut down and shipped, they ship male and female plants together.

Well, the color and consistency are definitely from the way the stuff is bricked and cured.

Other issues are that there is no fine hand "manicure" to trim out all the small fan leaves, the stuff has ceeds, obviously, and also it may not be harvested at its peak potency.

Also, you just have to believe that the best stuff grown in these areas is hand-picked and cured, and stays local, not bricked up and shipped up North.

Wonder how it work in the local 106 degree summers?

It does good in mex. so om guessing it should Be ok ?

Just look at date of post ???

Don't think date of posts corresponds to when I did the grow.

Like the USA, Mexico is a VERY big country with a wide variety of internal climates. Although my guess is that these might be Michoacan genetics, I really have no idea what the truth is, and I don't know where the original "schwagg" plants were grown or in what sort of climate.

In my grow, these plants seemed to do just fine with a good stretch (ie weeks) of daily peak temps in the 90s Farenheit. This may have been a contributing factor to the long flowering time. . .don't really know. But I do think they'd do OK outdoors where the temps went over 100F during the summer, so long as they were mature by the time the temps got that high, acclimated to the high UV sun content, and got sufficient water. The more important thing is going to be how the temps are in the last month or so of flowering (ie Oct/Nov) not how they are in July/Aug.

Really, plants like this *should* be grown outdoors, not indoors under artificial light.

 

[hill76]

what kind of yeild? i'd think that bagseed would be heavy yeild medium strength

 

[Jogro]

what kind of yeild? i'd think that bagseed would be heavy yeild medium strength

I think that's exactly right.

See above. I didn't actually weigh it, but I pulled just over two ounces from the plant with a small amount lost to bud rot near the end of the grow. Given the size of plant and setup, that's not a bad yield, though again it was a full 12 week flower (plus maybe another month of veg).

Absolute potency was medium, though scent/flavor were good and high quality excellent.

 

[silasraven]

Don't forget to compress it!!!!!!!

lmfaor shit dude, i cant tell you how much i dont want like to compress my newly grown trimmed weed, all the trichs ripped right off for bag appeal. you know how much you lose in the long run.

 

[Jogro]

lmfaor shit dude, i cant tell you how much i dont want like to compress my newly grown trimmed weed, all the trichs ripped right off for bag appeal. you know how much you lose in the long run.

I actually have compressed weed before. (For storage, not bag appeal!).

Obviously you want to avoid this if possible, but its not quite as bad as you think. Only the trichromes on the outside of the chunk get messed up. On the inside they're squashed a bit, but they're still in there, and largely protected from air/oxidation.

They key is that you need to compress it at the right time, when its mostly dry. If you do it too early you can get rot, and too late, it won't hold together well.