Grow 1: Day 1, 4xGirl Scout Cookies, 2x240w blackstar LED, 1closet=WE WILL FIND OUT!!

natro.hydro

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Just my guess but since it is a clone maybe the root system is not established enough to hold that sucker up, obviously can feed it but support could be a problem... my suggestion would be to repot as soon as possible and bury as much of the stem as possible on those others, should help later on for support a wee bit, still prob need a screen or sticks or something to hold those hopefully massive buds up later.
That mylar is effing with me bad in that pic lol, hard to tell whats what there. I have a hard time looking at plants in led but they sure do look cool, anyway you could snap a pic in normal light or with a filter?
 

AliCakes

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I run the same lights in my veg cabinet and keep em between 2" and 4" from the top of the plants. This keeps the plants from getting leggy and leds run so cool that the plant can literally touch the lens and not burn.
 

Ghettobird209

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I run the same lights in my veg cabinet and keep em between 2" and 4" from the top of the plants. This keeps the plants from getting leggy and leds run so cool that the plant can literally touch the lens and not burn.
lol cool deal ty for the info it seems like no heat damage or anything so cool. damn im not having heat problems but these things do make a little heat, not out of the lights or lens it self but the heat sink vents on the sides blow hot air out and gets my closet kinda warm i gotta open my closet door daily and stick this big fan i have to blow cool air from my room into the closet to cool it to 73-75 other than that it'll run 79-82, with a 12/12 setup i'll be perfect my closet will hit high 60's with the lights off.
 

natro.hydro

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If only you had some kind of exhaust fan, if only lol..... Just giving ya shit, but the high temps will always be a struggle without atleast some passive air flow, that fan is def helping tho. Oh and if you want to peep some bent over bitches, check my journal in like 5, not the best at it but I like to think I do ok.
 

AliCakes

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Yes, they do produce a little heat - just not in the same way as other lights. I have a cheap bathroom fan retro fitted into my cabinet (also in a closet) and it exhausts into the attic
 

Ghettobird209

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If only you had some kind of exhaust fan, if only lol..... Just giving ya shit, but the high temps will always be a struggle without atleast some passive air flow, that fan is def helping tho. Oh and if you want to peep some bent over bitches, check my journal in like 5, not the best at it but I like to think I do ok.
LMAO, NOW i know why everyone talks about in&out fans hahahaha a fan just blows the hot air around like a windy day in the summer. needa add some pics but theres starting to come out some white straight hairs and looks like little little weed leafs i'll have to get a pic but maybe whats called "preflowers"?
Yes, they do produce a little heat - just not in the same way as other lights. I have a cheap bathroom fan retro fitted into my cabinet (also in a closet) and it exhausts into the attic
Really? nice How do you set that up to blow it in the attic. and is this safe?
 

natro.hydro

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Found a thread about how to take pics under leds but did not save it and can not find it again:dunce:, anyways try go to the settings under your camera and go to a custom white balance, it makes your plants look like they are under normal light if you adjust it right. I would imagine the fan to the attic would require some cutting and didn't you say no modifications to the closet? prob look just like a bathroom fan in your closet, might even be able to hook up some kind of lil carbon filter on the end if necessary.
 

Ghettobird209

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Found a thread about how to take pics under leds but did not save it and can not find it again:dunce:, anyways try go to the settings under your camera and go to a custom white balance, it makes your plants look like they are under normal light if you adjust it right. I would imagine the fan to the attic would require some cutting and didn't you say no modifications to the closet? prob look just like a bathroom fan in your closet, might even be able to hook up some kind of lil carbon filter on the end if necessary.
DAMN i just had to take pics :D lol shit well i didnt want to make any changes to the walls or anything but now im thinking i might have to for summer.... idk i just want the easiest as possible i guess i just made a new thread about my sizes of different plants check it out.... what do you think? should i just flip the lights out or attempt more veg growth?
 

Ghettobird209

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Oh shit my bad i thought i showed pics, well guys, i cant really let this big one get any bigger in veg so i guess i gotta flip the lights? Here they are
 

natro.hydro

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K well as me and bak said a handful of times,lil bit of training really could have manged that height. no biggie but if your flipping them i would consider losing the runt cus that big one will choke the life out it by not letting your leds penetrate to it. how far are they from the tops of your largest to tops of your smallest? You got some wacky leaf growth there bro, your in 5 gals now right? Wats are your temps at?
Rdit:relooked at your pics and i think your biggin is getting a lil hot from the loks of the leaves since you are in 5s, unless you have watered poorly and have a lot air pockets in your soil, inhabitable zones for roots possibly making it root bound but I am leaning towards temps, you might want to think about trimming some of that lower growth off,especially with leds being notoriusly bad for penetration... just a though tho.
 

Ghettobird209

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K well as me and bak said a handful of times,lil bit of training really could have manged that height. no biggie but if your flipping them i would consider losing the runt cus that big one will choke the life out it by not letting your leds penetrate to it. how far are they from the tops of your largest to tops of your smallest? You got some wacky leaf growth there bro, your in 5 gals now right? Wats are your temps at?
I know bro honestly and ive just been super busy with work ive kinda just let nature do her thing...... Shit i know im just so upset that it stunted!!! idk wtf happened. The 2nd smaller one is now actually starting to get big and bush up do you think i could get a nug or two of her or should i just throw both of the two out and just try to grow 2 massive ones under there own one 240w light? fuck bro im pissed!!!!!

and nope im still in 1gals!!!!!

should i transplant? im just fuxkn scared to cuz idk how to get around the roots and what not.

ive dont some gardening in the past with my parents when i was young as chores having to pull out bushes and do all kindsa shit so ive transplanted some reg plants before and what i do is just dig around a big circle motion in the pot almost around the edges and scoop up? obviously some roots gna get killed right?

My temps vary from 69-75 with closet door open blowing cool fresh air in, or 75-79 with door shut (like when im sleeping or gone) Most of the time its around 74.

So from the tops of my big ones they are like 3-4 inches away, the small one thats starting to look better is about 5inches away and the runt (small small one which actually started out as a strong one but for some reason stunted?) is about 8 inches away from the light.
 

natro.hydro

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Ermahgawd bro it is root bound and only gonna get worse!!! the second smallest that one was not an impressive cut from the go, now you know a lil bit more bout what kind of vigor to look for out of dispensary clones, i dont have experience but from what I hear dispensaries do not stop you from picking a weak cut. Dont get to pissed, just learn. whole reason I say root bound is cus i went thru the same experience of waiting too long yo transplant but they were smart pots so the rooted into the container.... massive root damge and they still all came back, they wre all feminized too and only one threw a sac... it was right around your time in life cycle too although they wre from seed not clone.
 

natro.hydro

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Where is the temp probe for your thermometer at? If its not right at canopy, which would be fairly inaccurate with variance in growth but still more accurate than if you have it at the front of the closet instead of the back where more of the stagnant hot air might be... if you have the money to run that second panel and can keep the lil ones, hard to get a spatial perspective of what you have left to work with while looking at that mylar lol then i eould do that just for experience could prov even try to pull the lil guys threw in the 1gs, i have done that before, yield sufferd but its the dif brtween enouh space might be worth the experience
 

Ghettobird209

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Ermahgawd bro it is root bound and only gonna get worse!!! the second smallest that one was not an impressive cut from the go, now you know a lil bit more bout what kind of vigor to look for out of dispensary clones, i dont have experience but from what I hear dispensaries do not stop you from picking a weak cut. Dont get to pissed, just learn. whole reason I say root bound is cus i went thru the same experience of waiting too long yo transplant but they were smart pots so the rooted into the container.... massive root damge and they still all came back, they wre all feminized too and only one threw a sac... it was right around your time in life cycle too although they wre from seed not clone.
Shit you think there root bound already?? i thought you could grow a whole life cycle in 1gals? even smaller i heard? shit well yah i guess you gotta learn some how! n yah i will know now lol. Well shit should i continue veg or i should i say screw it and start flower? Also im thinking of just throwing the two small ones outside and see if they can survive. temps over here are around 70-75 in day time. but im still a new occupant in my neighborhood in a light weight ghetto so idk if i wanna get some attention from my neighbors yet.......

Where is the temp probe for your thermometer at? If its not right at canopy, which would be fairly inaccurate with variance in growth but still more accurate than if you have it at the front of the closet instead of the back where more of the stagnant hot air might be... if you have the money to run that second panel and can keep the lil ones, hard to get a spatial perspective of what you have left to work with while looking at that mylar lol then i eould do that just for experience could prov even try to pull the lil guys threw in the 1gs, i have done that before, yield sufferd but its the dif brtween enouh space might be worth the experience
Temp prob is set on top of on of the gallon buckets so basically at top of the soil. Well idk what you mean about having the money to run the 2nd panel (electricity bill? if so it was only 15$ more than last month with both lights on 24/7) then yah i can. But what im thinking is just running 1 plant under 1 light (both big ones)? or just try to pull some weight off all of them? cuz one of them is starting to bush out and you guys all say plants double size in flowering stage, well if thats true, than these two big ones are gonna end aroun 40-44"tall!!!???!!! and i could get these small ones atleast to 20-24"?
 
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