SOMEBEECH
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Friedrice
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Here is a question to make you guys think.
Looking at the chart below we can determine that in soil the perfect ph range for marijuana is between 6.3-6.8
http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/500/Nutrient_Chart2.gif
How do you think nature regulates this? This is important because understanding the plant's natural environment will give us better understanding on how to bring this environment indoors, control it, and enhance it. I see plants in my neighbors yard that im sure doesn't have any lime in the soil below it yet it is still uptaking nutrients.
Feel free to say anything that your thinking! Any ideas are good ideas
Looking at the chart below we can determine that in soil the perfect ph range for marijuana is between 6.3-6.8
http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/500/Nutrient_Chart2.gif
How do you think nature regulates this? This is important because understanding the plant's natural environment will give us better understanding on how to bring this environment indoors, control it, and enhance it. I see plants in my neighbors yard that im sure doesn't have any lime in the soil below it yet it is still uptaking nutrients.
Feel free to say anything that your thinking! Any ideas are good ideas
Glad all is well. Just was wanting to see what you thought of the floralicious. Have you used as a foliage spray? I'm on my first and i went straight to the 4x8 with two 1000's so i have nothing to compare it to. Trying dark energy too. i like your clone shelf. i'm in hydro and i built one of the ez cloners out of a tote. 40 site. i didn't even want to by the neoprene shit so i got some mats for gardeners to kneel on and used a tomato paste can and bam i got them for cheap. sorry not trying to highjack just if you can post a little on the floralicious if you see anything worth talking about. that wasn't you i just seen on the discovery channel weed show was it? i kid,lol. peaceout
Friedrice
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Well today is day ten for the clones and they have yet to show roots yet. I know they are developing them because they have anchored themselves a little bit into the rockwool cube.
I am debating on taking clones from another female and seeing if those root faster because I need good female genetics to be my mothers.
The clones look good. The bottom two leaves are starting to lack of nutrients an wilt(which is a good sign it shows that its pulling nutrients to develop roots).
Ill post some pics in a bit. As far as the plants from the seeds they are all getting bigger and looking fabulous.
Sorry for the late reply about the floralicous. Some family came down to visit my mother so I had to be the entertainer.
As far as what I think of floralicous, im assuming your using the two part grow and bloom, and maybe a little plus added to it?
First off you have to look at what its adding to your system. It talks about nutrients and how it helps taste and stuff like that.
Maybe it does help the taste?
I have never used that product, but grow and bloom are adding nothing BUT N, P, and K.
Also they have a little humic acid, which from my research is only beneficial in soil plants.
Also humic acids that are derived from leonardite are not the best humics.
Cold water processed humic acids derived from rutile sand deposits are where its at when it comes to humic acids.
I have never really heard of people who use humic acids and organic based nutrient supplements in hydro.
I had a friend who used humic acids and put them at the bottom of the pots with soil and he swears by it.
I strictly follow K.I.S.S. but that is also because im a soil grower.
As far as foliar feeding, I never foliar spray nutes. The only time I foliar spray is when I spray the plants down with neem oil to keep the bugs away.
Im assuming your using those in conjunction with a whole feed regimen though?
May I ask what your nutrients your using with them?
Im all soil, but in my opinion if I had to run hydro, I would probably steer clear of the floralicous line.
If im wrong, feel free to debate the topic. Ive never used them so...
If I had to run hydro I would probably look at dyna-gro or something similar
send me a picture of your DIY ez cloner Id like to take a gander at it
I am debating on taking clones from another female and seeing if those root faster because I need good female genetics to be my mothers.
The clones look good. The bottom two leaves are starting to lack of nutrients an wilt(which is a good sign it shows that its pulling nutrients to develop roots).
Ill post some pics in a bit. As far as the plants from the seeds they are all getting bigger and looking fabulous.
Sorry for the late reply about the floralicous. Some family came down to visit my mother so I had to be the entertainer.
As far as what I think of floralicous, im assuming your using the two part grow and bloom, and maybe a little plus added to it?
First off you have to look at what its adding to your system. It talks about nutrients and how it helps taste and stuff like that.
Maybe it does help the taste?
I have never used that product, but grow and bloom are adding nothing BUT N, P, and K.
Also they have a little humic acid, which from my research is only beneficial in soil plants.
Also humic acids that are derived from leonardite are not the best humics.
Cold water processed humic acids derived from rutile sand deposits are where its at when it comes to humic acids.
I have never really heard of people who use humic acids and organic based nutrient supplements in hydro.
I had a friend who used humic acids and put them at the bottom of the pots with soil and he swears by it.
I strictly follow K.I.S.S. but that is also because im a soil grower.
As far as foliar feeding, I never foliar spray nutes. The only time I foliar spray is when I spray the plants down with neem oil to keep the bugs away.
Im assuming your using those in conjunction with a whole feed regimen though?
May I ask what your nutrients your using with them?
Im all soil, but in my opinion if I had to run hydro, I would probably steer clear of the floralicous line.
If im wrong, feel free to debate the topic. Ive never used them so...
If I had to run hydro I would probably look at dyna-gro or something similar
send me a picture of your DIY ez cloner Id like to take a gander at it
sky rocket
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Be patient with the clones. Have they formed any white pimples yet on the stem? Are you rooting your clones aeroponic style?
Friedrice
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I am, I'm going to let them root regardless.
im just going to throw in another set from a different mother and see how they compare.
im not cloning aeroponic style I'm using domes and rock wool.
Oo S0uP oO
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Hehe.... Settled!
On A serious note, differences aside, I am terribly sorry to hear about your Mom. Goodluck with that Friedrice I truly do hope better news is on the horizon, I lost mine to the big C.Shit sucks. -S0uP
Friedrice
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Its not settled til this grow is done, and if I fail then you are right.
thanks for the nice words though man. Hopefully there is better news to come
Thundercat
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Look man I hope the best for your grow, and I have never said you were going to fail nor would I wish that for anyone. I haven't even responded to this thread since you got back so as to not offend you or anything. I was simply commenting on your way of choosing to express yourself as "a teacher". Most people come to this site to learn more about growing, and share their experiences along the way. Usually only the most seasoned and experienced growers take a position to "teach" others directly. Many of us offer to share our opinions and experiences through this site, but most don't try to pass such as fact or "lesson". I'm sorry if I have soured the air, and I truly hope the best for your family and your garden. Peace man and may your day be green!
Friedrice
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I understand man, and thanks for the kind words.
I have been in the marijuana growing atmosphere for the past five years.
Three years of that was spent researching and being the shadow to a mentor I had.
He is very successful and educated at what he does.
I am trying to teach people, just in a different way then RIU usually does it.
I think I do this because that is the way my mentor taught me.
Of course there are facts about growing like the right temperatures, humidity levels, ph, and so on.
One thing i've noticed with the mentor I had, is that when he gave advice is was never solid facts.
It was always a "way of thinking" type of thing.
This type of thinking leaves a lot of room for speculation.
Which I think is what his whole goal was.
It all makes sense in my brain I just have a hard time sometimes constructing my thoughts into well a organized and easily understandable format.
I'm not so much trying to give away a simple one way grow all type of thing, but a way of thinking so an individual grower can assess their own situation.
That's why I asked questions about nature and stuff like that.
To help paint a picture in peoples heads and spark the critical thinking part of the brain.
There was a guy on RIU named riddleme, and in his journal he stated:
you can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink
but if you tire the horse first, he is more likely to drink.
I hope you stick around though man, just so you can see that im not full of shit, even though I sound like it
whodatnation
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Its been three months since you started seeds. Any pics? Most people need pics to back up your extensive growing knowledge and take your teaching position seriously.
Friedrice
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Its been three months since you started seeds. Any pics? Most people need pics to back up your extensive growing knowledge and take your teaching position seriously.
coming your way, they will be up in 20
Thundercat
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So they have shown preflowers, it looks like they are still vegging? I figure since your saying males and females.......are you planning a breeding project or just havn't culled the males yet? The plants look nice and healthy man.
Friedrice
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Yeah they are still vegging. These ones will always be in veg. The clones that come from these seeds are going to fill my room. Im just waiting for the branches to get big enough so I can take 16 clones all about the same size, root them, and throw them in to flower under the first 1000w HPS. Then one month later throw in another sixteen under the second 1000w HPS, then 2 weeks after that throw in another 16 clones under the third 1000w HPS. The eight clones that are rooting right now are going to be the replacement/additional mothers. That way I can finally get into a perpetual groove.
Glad someones paying attention though! I am planning to breed! I'm keeping one male to extract pollen from.
What has me at a halt right now is that I dont know how im going to flower male and pollinate the female.
I really dont want to use a whole 1000w hps just for that so ive been thinking either my t8's or t'5s.
I dont have any experience breeding under this type of lighting and dont know if ill get quality seeds or not.
I know the bud can come out "decent", but I have no clue about the seeds.
I want to breed cause I want to get a good amount of seeds that way I dont have to use clones to flower.
I know I can get 1lbs per light with 16 clones.
What im aiming for though is getting 1lbs per light with 5 plants from seed.
In order to do that though, and ensure steady quality I need a decent size batch of seeds to be able to pick out the quality females, top them, and flower them.
Any advice on the breeding?
Thundercat
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I've havn't done any breeding yet. I just recently collected pollen from one of about 4 males I found from a recent seed run(2 of 2 different strains). I flowered the one that seemed to grow strongest and have best node spacing. I stuck it under my 1k for about 4-5 days until it had really started to make some pollen sacks, then moved it out of the room to some ambient 12/12 light near a window at the other end of my house. I rigged up a piece of cardboard nice and flat right under the branches and left it for about another week. Once the pollen fell I put it in an old pill bottle for now. Here in a few weeks I'm gonna "paint" some pollen onto a few of the girls I have going. I'm not sure if I'll ever use the seeds I'm gonna make, but thought it would be a fun project. I've always wanted to breed but until I have enough space to do it right I havn't been in any hurry. I have very little regard for all these pollen chuckers out there crossing whatever with whatever with no clue what they are doing and then trying to sell "their genetics". Just because these guys cross 2 elite cuts does not mean they will get anything even worth growing. Especially the first generation of F1s which typically has tons of pheno variation from what I"ve read on the subject. I hope it works out for ya though and you get atleast one decent pheno you can use.
DrOfWelshMagic
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subbed, at last, only just found you. your ladies sure are looking good bro.
I have some Belladonna and WW x BB from seed, started about the same time as yours dude coincidentally.
when do you plan on flipping them? sorry if i missed the answer, read first few pages, skipped to end and then read few more from the middle.
I have some Belladonna and WW x BB from seed, started about the same time as yours dude coincidentally.
when do you plan on flipping them? sorry if i missed the answer, read first few pages, skipped to end and then read few more from the middle.