600 Watt 12/12 From Seed Lazy Susan

[Thundercat]

I've been running mine at night for the last 6 months or so, I totally feel ya man. I also end up needing to do stuff in there, and not end up down there till 10-11 at night and then not always feeling like doing what i have to.

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

Chaka.... Respect dude. I'm thinking maybe a 12/12 from seed myself. A few questions for you or anyone with an opinion.


Have you done the whole cycle in the party cup before? If not, would you do that with your whole table? Why or why not?


Last question. Let's say, I don't care if my plants Hermy, or if they're males, because all the bud will be Bubble hash anyways.
Meaning that I germ, plant, and leave till harvest. I get what I get

So while I'm breaking this bud up getting ready for the hash, I can reuse these seeds and just keep doing this intill they don't sprout anymore. Thoughts?

Thanks man, and keep up the Dope Table. Lookin fresh

 

[billcollector99]

It would be pointless to not remove your males or hermies. As well as flowering in party cups... not gonna get a desirable yield with that kind of setup.

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

It would be pointless to not remove your males or hermies. As well as flowering in party cups... not gonna get a desirable yield with that kind of setup.

You're not listening though. If they're going to be hash anyways, why not just take the seeds out as you go along. It's about the Cannabinoids mostly

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

Two rooms. Each with 2 400w lights. When one room goes off, another one comes on, thus not makin electrical spikes.

 

[supchaka]

Other than a male taking up space yeah, I figured you were going to grow remotely and not be able to come back. I've never done a party cup start to finish, this will be my first, by accident really. Honestly if it yielded even remotely decent I could see it as viable, it's a hell of a lot easier to water a tray full of cups than individual plants. It just requires an assload of seeds every grow, which again isn't too bad when you water them all together. We'll see how it goes.

Oh and like I mentioned, I think running hydro nutes would be necessary in such small containers. I don't think it's enough space for organics to sustain a larger plant throughout a grow. Hydro is easier, IMO but then you're dealing with plant counts and I don't know how much they'll knit pick 6 inch tall plants in court. Besides the whole plant count thing has been challenged anyways.

 

[supchaka]

Oh and to add, a plant that hermies I feel is just as potent but it will suffer in yield because the plant put forth energy in making seeds, so it is a factor that if possible be avoided.

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

Sweet...


The only reason I would keep the males would be for seeds, if none hermied I'd get seeds, if none were male and I got hermies I'd get seeds.
Win Win.

By the way, I'm subbed to the dick man on this one +Rep

 

[billcollector99]

Hermie seeds are just gonna give you more hermies. All it would take is 1 male to give you 1000+ seeds if that is all you really wanted.
To do a grow in party cups like you are suggesting is going to require a lot of attention and watering. Might as well pull the males if you are going to be around the grow.

 

[Thundercat]

I run all my veg plants in party cups, but have never flowered in them. I've heard of people doing it though, so I'm sure its doable if you keep them fed. I can say that my veg girls need to be watered every other day currently and they are large for the cups. I don't put drain holes on the bottoms of my cups either, I put them about 1 inch up on the side of the cup to create a hempy reservoir for the roots. Usually when the roots hit the res, you can see the plants take off I also think this helps me not have to water every day.

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

I can also see you run Bulk subs. Do you case? I find it to be a waste of time, and not worth the fruit yield.

Do you run perlite or coco for the hempys?

 

[Thundercat]

I actually don't really run bulk subs. The trays I ran were filled with colonized wild birdseed and vermiculite. Since verm isn't really nutrient containing I don't think its really considered a bulk sub. I filled the trays with several pints of colonized myc, and equal parts course verm at field wetness, let it colonize for about 3-4 days, and then case the top with a 1/4-1/2 inch of moist verm and fruit them. Worked well as you can tell, I've read casing isn't needed but don't find it to be a big deal so I did it. My hempy solo cups just get filled with my grow rock mix I use in my trays.

 

[doc25]

Get rid of the verm(not healthy) and try a bio-char product, it should be inoculated, I believe Bountea has one,or should be comming out with one soon

 

[Thundercat]

Get rid of the verm(not healthy) and try a bio-char product, it should be inoculated, I believe Bountea has one,or should be comming out with one soon

Thanks for the advise man, but from the harvests I had I think I can handle it. I'm not sure why you don't like verm but the fact that it is not "life supporting" helps to prevent contams from growing in it. If all that I am dealing with is strong colonized myc, and sterile verm my chances of contams are much lower. But as with anything there are a millions ways to do things. I'm not currently running any mushrooms so not really worried about it right now.

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

No Verm? I know about 100 people that Run MonoTubs over at The shroomery, and I have never heard that in my life..

Verm is good for holding water(Like how you Dunk and Roll your cakes)I use Verm and I found that I don't need to dunk before I fruit because of the water in the Bulk. After the Second Flush, I dunk for 12 hours(anymore and I found that it gets the Bulk soggy and I get no 3rd flush)I always wanted to do WBS.. But I found that plain Whole long grain brown rice WORKS! And if I make too much I get to eat it. After they're done I grain it to Pasteurized Hpoo... Through four 80 quart subs I get close to 2.5lbs in a month and a half... I recently stopped myself though, still have my Penis envy in the fridge... Friday night is always Trip Night

 

[supchaka]

I don't have a clue what you guys are talking about! Something with growing shrooms apparently!

 

[supchaka]

The barber of Seville rolled through last night. I'm a pruner

 

[supchaka]

My outdoor trucking along. It's kinda just starting to veg again now, it doesn't seem to be trying to flower still! It does have some pistils that showed up when I topped it. I got a lot of time for it to veg so I guess I could say I'm happy it's taking a slow start otherwise it will be a monster.

 

[supchaka]

The leaves have taken a bit of a purple color to them. I'm looking forward to her maturing!

 

[Fenian Brotherhood]

Nice. How do you feel with starting out with a HPS 12/12 fs?
Meaning not using the MH at all? Have you done this, why or why not have you stuck with it