Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Cann
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Sounds like Ice-9
Cool Idea though. I would love to see some literature about this stuff...does said "chinese researcher" have published work? or do you have a link to the documentary?
I am a huge proponent of clean drinking water, and I always give people shit for drinking tap/bottled h2o. there are a bunch of great documentaries out there about h2o....F.L.O.W. (for love of water), Tapped!, and Blue Gold: World Water Wars to mention a few. I'd highly recommend y'all give those a watch. Also Flouridegate is a good documentary about water fluoridation. water is the most important thing on earth...bout time we educated ourselves about it
yankeegreen
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Dude, Vonnegut's stories rock!Sounds like Ice-9
yankeegreen
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I am very excited - just found 30lbs of rock dust on my doorstep!
sullivan666
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I'm glad structured water was brought up. I have some friends that are big proponents of it, mainly for human health vs agriculture. I have other friends who dismiss it as pseudoscience. I haven't done all that much research on it myself, so I'm on the fence. I haven't watched the documentary 'water' yet, but I have done some searches trying to find some legit articles (not testimonials or advertising) about structured water and haven't found much of anything. I found this when looking for opponent's views: http://www.chem1.com/CQ/clusqk.html I don't have enough knowledge of chemistry, but maybe some of you guys can give your thoughts?
yankeegreen
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Interesting post. I took a quick look at this approach but I don't think I know enough about the chemistry. From what I am picking up, the ST breaks down the chloramine into amonia and chlorine. The chlorine disipates naturally or can be removed easily by chemical means. The ammonia is potentially toxic to plants, but at ph below 7 ionizes into ammonium which is not toxic.
Assuming the solution and soil are both below ph 7 (they better be or you will have other problems) are there any potential drawbacks to having the amonium or additional sodium in the soil, particularly as it relates to the wide range of microbes? Is the ammonium broken down further? If so, into what? Anyone else tried this approach to de-clorimine?
yankeegreen
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The municipality publishes a detailed water quality report annually including a detailed breakdown. If I am reading it correctly, chloramine content is 2.1mg/l avg (range 1.9-2.5ml/l). I will follow up with a phone call to the city to verify. Thanks for the nudge 
hyroot
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With aerating the ammonia will evaporate. Probably what you read was referring to the dangers to fish and plants in aquariums. Chlorine is a catch 22. It will promote root growth but kills all the good bennies.
snowboarder396
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That would most definetely be coral rubble from a tank, good stuff.just be sure rinse real well due to possibly being used in a saltwater tank
yankeegreen
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The sources I found were in the context of aquariums - I should have pointed that out. So are you saying that the ammonia/ammonium will evaporate out of solution, ie bubbling in a tea? Will the standard 24 hour aeration do the trick? Guess a standard aquarium ammonia test kit would cover that.
hyroot
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24 hour aerating will get rid of it. Molasses does its magic in 20 - 30 min per 5 gals.
yankeegreen
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Thanks again. I did just read a post on a gardening forum that suggesting molasses would help but did not offer any reasoning or aeration time. May have to give this a go.
dl290485
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Hey guys what should i do with my banana peels? I'm not going to eat a couple just because i want to fertilize so i'm going to have to collect them as they are eaten to use later. Take today for example, my son has eaten 2 and i've got the skins but right now i'm not blooming any plants- i've just got a couple seedlings going. I seen that people dry it up in the sun and crumble it into pots but how long will this dry banana keep for? And where do i keep it? Garage in a plastic bag or in the freezer? Somewhere in this thread, i think, i read about simmering the peel with molasses and water- how long would that product keep for and again where would it be kept?
dl290485
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I've been googling for ages gah! I can't find a guide anywhere on what to do with fresh aloe vera to use it as a foliar spray. I don't have bottled or powdered or any product- just the fresh growing plants in my yard.
1- what do i do to it?
2- what dose do i use this modified aloe?
3- how often is it used?
1- what do i do to it?
2- what dose do i use this modified aloe?
3- how often is it used?
Kalyx
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2tbl puréed aloe Vera per gallon apply foliar
Google 'structured water 2008' and you can see and hear researchers around the world explain much more than pseudoscience! It is kind of long and only a short part around 15 minutes about ag stuff. Most of them are not from North America. If you don't get it after watching that no amount of hand holding will get u there. Structured water for the ladies and veggies = more natural genetic expression. The fish pheno research blew my mind, especially for monocropping like we are doing. Also keep in mind there is A LOT more to the natural systems of earth than all scientists put together can understand/publish. INITY
Google 'structured water 2008' and you can see and hear researchers around the world explain much more than pseudoscience! It is kind of long and only a short part around 15 minutes about ag stuff. Most of them are not from North America. If you don't get it after watching that no amount of hand holding will get u there. Structured water for the ladies and veggies = more natural genetic expression. The fish pheno research blew my mind, especially for monocropping like we are doing. Also keep in mind there is A LOT more to the natural systems of earth than all scientists put together can understand/publish. INITY
dl290485
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How often is recommended to get the growth boosting effect?
Kalyx
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As often as you like. Most people do every week or 3 days if you really have the time/don't mind making the drip mess more often. Usually a foliar regime with multiple sprays for multiple purposes, hence two sprays per week being somewhat the norm. ie aloe, neem, botanicals, kelp, etc on some sort of rotation based on what your plants want/need. Read em and let the sprayer help them weep (in a good way)!