Stoneslacker's new 250w micro hempy scrog Blueberry, Blackjack and Permafrost

Oo S0uP oO

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From what I understand your two choices there are BOTH top notch and in the infinite wattage garden of my mind they BOTH would have a spot...BUT if I had to go one way or the other I would go blackwater for the yield and colors on the finish. Believe me both will get you high!bongsmilie ...Just some food for thought stone (If your going shopping) I know its not a true Kush but have you checked out the DNA limited genetics Training Day at all??? (TrainwreckxLa confidential) Im gonna be pissed if they are out before I put my order in 10 days from now. That sounds like a winner to me! -S0uP
 

stoneslacker

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From what I understand your two choices there are BOTH top notch and in the infinite wattage garden of my mind they BOTH would have a spot...BUT if I had to go one way or the other I would go blackwater for the yield and colors on the finish. Believe me both will get you high!bongsmilie ...Just some food for thought stone (If your going shopping) I know its not a true Kush but have you checked out the DNA limited genetics Training Day at all??? (TrainwreckxLa confidential) Im gonna be pissed if they are out before I put my order in 10 days from now. That sounds like a winner to me! -S0uP
Training day does look incredible. Looking through the Limited set, SnoLAnd and Island also caught my eye. So many strains, so little space!

Edit: I have the World of Seeds Legend Edition Afghan Kush Special, a pure Afghan kush, already with a spot secured for my fall run. I am thinking it's going to be a kush to the head 3 plant scrog. I am really liking the DNA Holy Grail Kush too!
 

steeliesteve

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I believe SnowLAnd is what I have. It was called snowcap la but they changed the name. Im excited about that one. I'm running her next grow.
 

stoneslacker

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Holy Grail Kush comes highly recommended.
Lost my Mom a while back and have been thinking about resurrecting her. Agreed - too many strains!
Sounds like a winner! I'll have a list of candidates soon. I'll put it to a vote

I believe SnowLAnd is what I have. It was called snowcap la but they changed the name. Im excited about that one. I'm running her next grow.
That is the same one, goes by both names. She looks sweet, keep me posted when you pop her!
 

KushCanuck

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6 posts back man snuck it in on you!
You sneaky bast!! You did too, haha. Went back and was like ... wait a second ... ;). Because you`re thread is bumpin`I have some kudos to pass around, that I can sum up with a few quotes, haha

Dude, you seriously know your shit, im still flabergasted that you have got all that under pretty much 250w! They look bloody AMAZING bro :D

100% Aggree, still trying to figure out how this happened under only 250w ... Couldn`t have said it better EC

Props for that excellent info! Ya Reserva Privada is the only seed form of the Skywalker I can find. Looks and sounds outstanding tho. Man you Cali brotha's got it made, need some of those clone only's to make their way east! I did see Swerve from Cali Conn, claims that the original SFV cut is worked into his Tahoe which had me interested. After seeing Lordjin and Sleezy's Tahoe runs I am really interested in this girl too. But after seeing that Skywalker pic you posted there, my mind is made up. Look for this beauty in my grow come fall! Thanks again for the great info bro!
RP`s cut of Skywalker I would trust although I believe Dutch Passion also carries it (Mazar x Blueberry ... would warrant a try I`d say

My buddy grew out some Larry OG and it was a killer smoke. One of the best tasting smokes I've had in awhile. I believe its sfv og x Larry clone(?). I will be popping a bean or two 2-3 weeks before my current plants are done.. I will be starting a critical ssh to work on a mother plant . And I am really excited about my Snowcap LA. Cant wait to try her!
Bought a pack of the Larry OG from Cali Connect with hopes of at least backcrossing it for seeds (gat dang $150+ after shipping from the Tude for10 regs ... :shock:. This is the reason I`m producing seeds now ... You`re dead right too mate SFV OG4 x Larry Clone
Sick thread Stone, loving the action (although a bitch to back-track a page, haha). Until the chop ... bongsmilie

KC :weed:
 

stoneslacker

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Lol ya the thread was moving pretty fast that night, I think a few people missed that post.

I'm not sure if someone just really doesn't like Swerve or if Cali Conn really does have a problem with hermies. There are alot of posts on many different forums about problems. I usually chalk up crying about breeders to issues with the grower most times, but there has been some pretty respectable looking growers chiming in on this. I've a buddy who lives in San Bern and I hear Progressive Options has some true fire Larry and Tahoe clones. Hmm.
 

Oo S0uP oO

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Lol ya the thread was moving pretty fast that night, I think a few people missed that post.

I'm not sure if someone just really doesn't like Swerve or if Cali Conn really does have a problem with hermies. There are alot of posts on many different forums about problems. I usually chalk up crying about breeders to issues with the grower most times, but there has been some pretty respectable looking growers chiming in on this. I've a buddy who lives in San Bern and I hear Progressive Options has some true fire Larry and Tahoe clones. Hmm.
Can confirm about PO.
 

stoneslacker

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Black Russian and Mazar x GWS beans have cracked! My auto NL x Big Bud which I thought was no good has also cracked. Got the 2 girls for my cab in some Rapid rooters and the auto in a small dirt pot. As soon as the auto has some good root growth she is heading for her new home outdoors. The other 2 I will veg in my 20 gallon tote conversion.

Last summers heat was like a kick in the sack, so depending on Mother Nature, veg time will be a see as we go situation. I am going to LST them during veg like I always do, but will see how much of a screen I can fill before the temps make me flip. I am going to run the 2 as a scrog hopefully and I am going to throw a couple of clones in some Folger's coffee can hempys about a week before I flip. Not sure what strains the clones will be, depends on what my friend has available.

The Black Russian has completely sprouted out of the cube and is off and running. The other 2 are still fighting to break free! I'll throw some pics up later tonight. Peace
 

stoneslacker

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Gave the girls their last supper tonight. I will give str8 ph'ed water in 2 days then on Friday I will hit them with a half gallon each of clearex at 15mL/gal. Then every 2 days after, nothing but water and sugar. Ph is bumped to 6.5 from now till the last watering somewhere around the 29th.
I'm taking my kids to a buddys cabin next weekend so no pics till Monday or Tuesday. Here's a few canopy shots till then.

Blueberry.


Blue Cheese. She is so dense, I think her weight might surprise me.


Blackjack





The new girls in my makeshift veg chamber. Black Russian pushing out like a champ. She should shed her shell soon. MazarxGWS is showing herself now too. See that 71% humidity high? It was a high of 87F today with 89% humidity in my area. :spew: Hope today was not a sign of things to come.

 

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EasyPound

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250 watt!!! I have to keep saying wow!!! Thats amazing work with 250 watts!!! Weight looks like it'll surprise us all!
 

steeliesteve

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Looking good bud! You gonna start a new journal for the babies? I really wanna watch that black russian and the others respond to your magic green thumb!
 

KushCanuck

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Haha, The Last Supper, I just about died. Great update Stone, I continue to be seriously impressed by those beastly leadies under a 250w. Have fun with the cabin, can`t wait to see the picutres after a little hiatus :D

KC :weed:
 

stoneslacker

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250 watt!!! I have to keep saying wow!!! Thats amazing work with 250 watts!!! Weight looks like it'll surprise us all!
I am just as amazed as you EP. I still say these hempys grow themselves and make me look better than I am.:dunce:
Looking good bud! You gonna start a new journal for the babies? I really wanna watch that black russian and the others respond to your magic green thumb!
I am thinking about just continuing on here. I am going to give a go at a full effort grow and try to scrog the B. Russian out like she deserves, but we will see how cooperative the weather is.
Haha, The Last Supper, I just about died. Great update Stone, I continue to be seriously impressed by those beastly leadies under a 250w. Have fun with the cabin, can`t wait to see the picutres after a little hiatus :D

KC :weed:
Thanks bro. They enjoyed their final meal, bittersweet are the final days of any grow, know what I mean? :eyesmoke:
 

stoneslacker

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Thought I would throw together a little grow recap and illustrate a bit about my simple grow. Hempy is a really simple and effective system.

First take your container, your options are pretty unlimited on what kind of container to use. Just pick one that is appropriate to the size plant you plan to grow, mine are 1.32G/5L to give you an idea of how small your bucket could be. Larger buckets would be better, but don't go too large. You wan't to find a balance point between early veg and aggressive bloom water uptake. Shoot for about 4-6 days for complete dry out in early veg and 1-3 days in aggressive bloom. You can tell when you need to water by simply lifting the bucket and judging the weight, a dry bucket will feel very light compared to a freshly watered one.

Next pick your medium, I use perlite partly cuz it's cheap and easy,but the options are fairly unlimited. Just need a somewhat absorbent, stable material. I've seen a guy grow some really impressive plants in foam from old couch cushions, pretty cool. Once you have a bucket and medium, drill a small 1/2" to 7/16" hole in the side of the bucket, about 2" from the bottom. This hole is simply to create a water rez and for drainage so don't make it too big. These folger can hempys are going to hold some 12/12 from clones to fill space in my next grow. SAM_1056.jpg

I like to use a small square of vinyl screen to cover my hole before filling with prewashed perlite. I wash my perlite fairly well do remove dust. Then just plant your clone or seedling like you

would in dirt. SAM_0710.jpg I usually give plain water for the first 5 days or so and I will tip my buckets sideways to drain as much water out of the rez as possible, leaving just the water absorbed into the perlite. This helps to prevent the newly transplanted roots from sitting in too much water and cause them to expand out quicker in search. You can also do this throughout the grow if one plant is not uptaking as much water as the others.

I ph to 5.8 almost all thru veg
. Of course monitor your girls and adjust accordingly. There is some debate on how often to water your hempy buckets. IMO let your buckets dry out almost completey Don't let them get to the point of wilting but make sure there is very little water weight in them. Pick your buckets before and after watering and daily from there. Get an idea of how much water is still there by the weight of the bucket. After a few times you will have no problem judging when they have dried out nicely. I feel drying out is the best system as it helps to maintain high oxygen levels to the roots, stimulating the most growth.

After about 5-8 days your newly transplanted girls will have shot roots all the way to the rez. They should be taking water and you can start feeding. Being a passive hydro system, hempy IMO needs nutrients on every feeding if possible. Start your feedings our light say 1/4 to 1/2 str. I use the GH 3 part and usually start feedings at 1mL of each, supplemented with 5mL florablend and .5 to 1 mL cal/mag. After about 7-10 days you can top your girls and start training.

Topping for a scrog setup is almost a must. You need to stimulate as much branching as possible. After topping, once you have some decent branches, you can begin LST. I use nylon string and duct tape for training. Simply loop the string around a branch and pull down slightly, then duct tape the string to the bucket. SAM_0738BC.jpg Start with the apex, or highest tip and pull down to even or slightly below canopy level. Then pull any branches that rise up to apex, back down to canopy level. The idea here is to force the plant to direct growth to other areas in order to achieve an apex. Once the branches are longer you can start to train the tips downward and train the middle sections of the branches upwards. This will cause the small growth tips to explode upwards, vertically off the horizontal branch. This is the same branch off my blue cheese taken three days apart. Notice the new growth tip start growing upward to become a future top.
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I feed very aggressively starting about day 12 of veg, bumping up to 5/mL grow, 5 micro and 2.5 bloom. I bump up the florablend to 10 mL, cal/mag to 2.5 and start adding floranectar at 2mL. I continue to feed at these levels till I notice aggressive growth. Then I bump up to 7.5/5/2.5, 10 Fb, 3.5c/mg and 2.5fn. This is a baseline and you should adjust according to your plants. I do feed very aggressively and try to push the threshold a bit, start your levels off a bit lower and increase a small bit at a time.

Continue training your branches horizontally and train your new middle growth to fill in empty areas of the screen. I like to have 4 nice main branches to train to each corner of my screen, and utilize all the small branching off these to fill the middle portion. If the middle starts to outpace the growth on your end branches, let the branches grow upwards a bit to slow the middle down some. Try to shoot for about 60-75% screen coverage before flipping. SAM_0771.jpg

About 2-4 days before flipping I like to flush with a clearex solution mixed at 7.5mL per gallon. I don't have a TDS pen but you could also use a low E/C solution to flush with. When I flip I shut the light down for approx. 36 hrs before changing photoperiod. If you flushed shortly before flipping, your buckets should be good and dry by now. I feed pretty aggressively here to accommodate the plants stretch needs. I feed along the lines of my aggressive growth at 7.5/5/3.5, and bump c/mg up to 5mL and florablend and floranectar to 7.5-10mL. I feed at these levels till about day 14, then I look to flush around day 18 or so. After flushing I let the plants dry out extremely well, a day more than I usually do, then I feed them an early bloom mix at 5/5/5 and sups the same. I bump my ph up to 6.0 at this time.

During this 21 day or so stretch period continue training branches to fill the screen. During the 1st week train branches back down under the screen and try to keep stretching above the screen to a minimum. After that let the stretch go above the screen, I like to shoot for 4-7 inches of stretch and they should fill in nicely. Day 12 blueberry, just about right.SAM_0792.jpg Around day 14-21 start to trim the undergrowth out and remove any leecher branches that won't reach the canopy. Start with the lowest stuff 1st and move upwards the later you get into stretch. After day 21 or so remove anything that is not above the screen. I should have removed more above the screen, but at day 20 or so you should look like this. SAM_0802.jpg

Continue feeding until day 33 or so, reducing the amount of grow and increasing bloom slightly each time. I add liquid koolbloom at 1mL/gallon after my first flower flush, around day 20. Around day 33 flush again with 7.5mL clearex and let them dry out really good again, about 4-5 days with my buckets. Then feed an aggressive mix. My complete feeding schedule thru day 49 of flower is on pg. 29 post #284. I also bump my ph to 6.2 around this time until week 5.5 or so. I think the flushing and drying out really makes them blow up and gain some size. Blackjack day 20 & day 34.SAM_0805.jpgSAM_0913.jpg

After the stretch portion of flower, the rest of the grow is really low maintenance. Just trim any low nodes that may spring up and any leaves that are congesting things and blocking light. I cut leaves off right up till harvest, so don't be afraid to trim that stubborn leaf off if it's blocking light. Just continue to feed and flush every 14-21 days, and always let the buckets dry out good. Around week 6 I bump the ph up again to 6.4-6.5.

Hope this can help someone out at sometime, just adjust things according to your situation and enjoy.


Peace.
 

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KushCanuck

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Wow brother... Now that I have that as a Journaled Post, I have your Hempy Scheme!! :D. My only question now is who does your Blueberry cut originally? Phenomenal detail Stone, shame it won`t let me Rep you from last time ... this post of any on the entire thread warrant some ... (hint, hint guys ;)). Very nice brother, thanks for taking the time, good mornin`! Puff, puff, pass ---> OG18 hash :joint:

KC :weed:
 
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