SpliffAndMyLady
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How long can a no till pot stay dormant for?
Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread
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Rising Moon
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Glad to see you back Rrog!
Cann, way to go on that Plushberry, safe to say you got the electric bill all sorted out with that one...lol.
Cann, way to go on that Plushberry, safe to say you got the electric bill all sorted out with that one...lol.
Rising Moon
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Throw some mulch,clover seed and worms in there and it should be fine for months, just make sure it wont get dried out.
I am in the process of building twice as many no till pots as I need for flower, that way I can always have some pots in my room, and some pots growing cover crops. Rotate as needed.
NickNasty
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Small Cups of beer around your plants they will be attracted to it and drown in the beer.
Also Sluggo plus will work its organic and has spinosad which is what kills it.
NickNasty
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You can veg in 1-2 gallons then dig a hole big enough to fit it in your 15-30 gal. just try not to disturb your soil as much as possible. If you just finished flowering a plant let the cut stem stay in the wet soil for a week or 2 and then it should just pull right out then dig a little bit around the hole and pop the 1-2 gallon in it.
Edit: It would still be better to veg your plants for little bit though in the bigger containers so the roots take hold before you start flowering.
Edit: It would still be better to veg your plants for little bit though in the bigger containers so the roots take hold before you start flowering.
hyroot
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That's what ive been doing with 1.5 gal plastic pots.then transplant into 7 gal fabric pots.. 1 gal fabric pots would be better probably for early veg.
I'm thinking of grabbing some 25 gal or 30 gal fabric pots. Do a soil bed. I used to do the Soma style beds. It worked great. Just clean up after chop was a Bitch and half. With rols hmmm....... Might be a good idea. Drop 4 or 5 plants in each one. Thoughts...?
I'm thinking of grabbing some 25 gal or 30 gal fabric pots. Do a soil bed. I used to do the Soma style beds. It worked great. Just clean up after chop was a Bitch and half. With rols hmmm....... Might be a good idea. Drop 4 or 5 plants in each one. Thoughts...?
Cann
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lol yeah the electric is sorted for now....thank you ROLS 
here is how I go about the "no-till" deal - all of my large pots (over 5 gallon) are in my flower tent, and unfortunately due to the size of my tent/the room which the tent occupies I can't fit anything larger than 5 gallons into the flower tent (as soon as you open the bedroom door you hit the tent frame and have to squeeze through a slightly cracked door if that makes sense...). this makes it so I can't veg in the same containers I am flowering in (unless it is a 5 gallon that I can squeeze through the door) - so instead I veg in 1-2 gallon nursery pots or airpots (smartpots are such a bitch to transplant with! especially once the roots grow through the fabric...lol) and then when it comes times to flip the lights I bring the plants into the flower room and put them in their final homes, usually a 10 gal or 30 gal smartpot (although there is one 45 gal
). then I usually hit them with an ACT or enzyme tea, clean up the lower branches/take clones, and start the whole thing over again.
if I could change anything, I would make it so I can plant a clone in a 45gal no-till and run it all the way through - unfortunately my current setup won't allow this due to the size of the pots. also carrying a full 45gal smartpot any distance would be a bitch lol. i wish there was a way to let the roots develop for a few weeks in the final pots before flipping the lights..but logistically there is no way for me to do that currently. i am still getting amazing results so its not the end of the world..
oh, and you may be wondering how the hell I have 10, 30, and 45 gallon smartpots in my flower tent if I can't squeeze anything more than 5 gallons through the door frame....a few months ago I filled up all the smarpots in situ, carrying ROLS 5 gallons at a time...LOL
hyroot - i have no idea what soma style beds are. care to elaborate?
here is how I go about the "no-till" deal - all of my large pots (over 5 gallon) are in my flower tent, and unfortunately due to the size of my tent/the room which the tent occupies I can't fit anything larger than 5 gallons into the flower tent (as soon as you open the bedroom door you hit the tent frame and have to squeeze through a slightly cracked door if that makes sense...). this makes it so I can't veg in the same containers I am flowering in (unless it is a 5 gallon that I can squeeze through the door) - so instead I veg in 1-2 gallon nursery pots or airpots (smartpots are such a bitch to transplant with! especially once the roots grow through the fabric...lol) and then when it comes times to flip the lights I bring the plants into the flower room and put them in their final homes, usually a 10 gal or 30 gal smartpot (although there is one 45 gal
). then I usually hit them with an ACT or enzyme tea, clean up the lower branches/take clones, and start the whole thing over again. if I could change anything, I would make it so I can plant a clone in a 45gal no-till and run it all the way through - unfortunately my current setup won't allow this due to the size of the pots. also carrying a full 45gal smartpot any distance would be a bitch lol. i wish there was a way to let the roots develop for a few weeks in the final pots before flipping the lights..but logistically there is no way for me to do that currently. i am still getting amazing results so its not the end of the world..
oh, and you may be wondering how the hell I have 10, 30, and 45 gallon smartpots in my flower tent if I can't squeeze anything more than 5 gallons through the door frame....a few months ago I filled up all the smarpots in situ, carrying ROLS 5 gallons at a time...LOL
hyroot - i have no idea what soma style beds are. care to elaborate?
Rising Moon
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I mixed up some soil yesterday with my buddy for some outdoor girls...
6, 25 gallon smarties: (1/3 peat moss, 1/6 rice hulls, 1/6 pumice, 1/3 local compost/home made worm castings)
Plus all the goodies...Shrimp/Crab meal, Kelp, Rock Dusts, Neem Cake, Oyster Shells, BD preps...
I cant wait to see the results.
These pots will be planted with: Afghani Landrace, Afghani x White Widow, Gogi OG, Black Afghani, Blueberry Headband and Chocolate Heaven
Soil is now cooking...
6, 25 gallon smarties: (1/3 peat moss, 1/6 rice hulls, 1/6 pumice, 1/3 local compost/home made worm castings)
Plus all the goodies...Shrimp/Crab meal, Kelp, Rock Dusts, Neem Cake, Oyster Shells, BD preps...
I cant wait to see the results.
These pots will be planted with: Afghani Landrace, Afghani x White Widow, Gogi OG, Black Afghani, Blueberry Headband and Chocolate Heaven
Soil is now cooking...
GreenSanta
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Is it mandatory to leave the container to ''rest'' after a crop?
or one could simply grow the cover crops amongst the flowering plants, having a rotation like I would grow clover or alfalfa where I just harvested a plant.
or one could simply grow the cover crops amongst the flowering plants, having a rotation like I would grow clover or alfalfa where I just harvested a plant.
hyroot
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Basically tubs with rubber maids or wooden boxes with:
hydroton across the bottom
Then root / weed cloth / mat over hydroton.
Then soil over mat
pvc tubes in each corner reaching to hydroton
Idea is having a bed of air beneath the roots. Having air travel through pvc to hydroton layer. So more oxygen to the roots. Having that bed of air makes it almost impossible to over water.
Soma has been all about dwc the last few years ......
http://books.google.com/books?id=xmUSgsPc-3kC&pg=PA23&lpg=PP1&output=html_text
With fabric pots I would probably just do a layer of perlite at the bottom and soil on top. Probably no need for pvc or root mat.
Rising Moon
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I have seen really noticeable differences between plants that get an inch or two of perlite/pumice on the bottom of the smart pots.
They like it!
I now even do it with my small plastic transplants...
The roots cling to those particles and are air pruned, ready to burst into their new homes. Last time I was transplanting my friend and I were geeking over the Mycelium we could see all over the roots on the bottom layer of perlite/pumice.
They like it!
I now even do it with my small plastic transplants...
The roots cling to those particles and are air pruned, ready to burst into their new homes. Last time I was transplanting my friend and I were geeking over the Mycelium we could see all over the roots on the bottom layer of perlite/pumice.
snowboarder396
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Not sure about the sluggo plus , and I believe I've read things about spinosad and the different dustings you can put on soil but they also kill the good bugs along with some papers I've read saying it's actually bad for consumption. Hmm. Have try and find that article again. Guess stick with old beer traps for now. Was just wondering what else might work.
Rising moon how you liking those gogi og? And how's the blueberry headband ?
Cann
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for earwigs I prefer the ol' manual removal technique...head out at midnight w/ a headlamp, place cardboard beneath the plant, shake, and then squash all the earwigs as they land on the cardboard and try to scatter
ive taken out about 100 in a night that way...significantly decreased my problems LOL..now every other night or so I do a round, kill a few, and my plants are much much better.
no more of this:
ive taken out about 100 in a night that way...significantly decreased my problems LOL..now every other night or so I do a round, kill a few, and my plants are much much better.
no more of this:
headtreep
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Done this in the past with plastic pots. I need to try with cheap lava rock from home depot. Less expensive than pumice for me and easier to source.
jstone1633
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That's awesome. What was your veg time and what size pot for veg?Just finished trimming a plushberry plant...grown in ROLS..10 gallon smartpot - final weight was just over 200grams...almost a half lb. from one plant. and this is under 600 watt lights..
the smartpot is now on its second round with a BOxNL5/haze lady...very excited to see what she has in store for me.
i gotta update my journal LOL...just got done staking tomato plants, gotta go back for more outdoor garden work. too f***ing busy! need a hit of that jack herer...
snowboarder396
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Damn cann lol that looks bad. And yeah I killed over 50 last night between 7 plants
hyroot
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F-in dankery cann. Good job.
I just figured out some ish with fabric pots. If you already know this go ahead and laugh at me.
When water leaks through the fabric on the sides. Rub your hand along the wet spot and it will stop leaking.
There's a dirty joke in that somewhere..lol
I just figured out some ish with fabric pots. If you already know this go ahead and laugh at me.
When water leaks through the fabric on the sides. Rub your hand along the wet spot and it will stop leaking.
There's a dirty joke in that somewhere..lol