What is your faith and beliefs? What do you trust? Whats your spirituality? O.M.G.

[cannawizard]

Does it really have to have physical properties for it to exist? (regarding the whole "spirit" question)

Maybe science just hasn't figure it out yet, I think with enough time, science should be able to~

 

[mindphuk]

Does it really have to have physical properties for it to exist? (regarding the whole "spirit" question

Define 'existence.' Abstractions can exist but do they have any affect on things in reality? Do they exist in the same way that actual physical things exist?

Maybe science just hasn't figure it out yet, I think with enough time, science should be able to~

Science would need some guidelines in order to figure anything out. Considering the shifting, nebulous definitions of spirit, I think that task would be difficult.

 

[cannawizard]

Define 'existence.' Abstractions can exist but do they have any affect on things in reality? Do they exist in the same way that actual physical things exist?

Science would need some guidelines in order to figure anything out. Considering the shifting, nebulous definitions of spirit, I think that task would be difficult.

hhmm.. maybe "existence" as in "dimensions" per say.. Lol , not really sure how to go about this~

the task would be difficult indeed, but i'm pretty sure we can pull it off later on.. i mean, we did start from cavemen-- now we can split atoms.. just an optimistic viewpoint

 

[skuba]

It's your life-force babypop, plants and animals got em too

 

[mindphuk]

It's your life-force babypop, plants and animals got em too

Is this supposed to be a useful definition or merely another attribute that itself has no actual meaning? What is 'life-force' and can you demonstrate it?

 

[cannawizard]

do robots have "life force" ? or does it only apply to organic matter? (unless its a cyborg..)

 

[Reklaw]

I believe.. in myself..

 

[cannawizard]

I believe.. in myself..

thats deep..

 

[Nevaeh420]

How can you justify saying that you've seen the evidence that you're the reincarnation of Jesus Christ and you believe it when we've explicitly pointed out the flaws in your reasoning, the fact that many other people all throughout history and even today claim to be the son of God, that the idea of Christianity, and indeed all organized religion, is inconsistent with reality and that you are experiencing delusions of grandeur, are portraying narcissistic tendencies, and combined, these, with many other things you've shown that I didn't bother to mention, can and have lead to serious tragedies?

Its just My beliefs in Myself!

I'm nothing close to perfect but for some reason I believe that I AM the Life.

I dont know if you all can exist without Me- the Life!

It sounds delusional, and it might be, but what if?

We will all find out when I die, if there is life after death. If there is life than good, if not than I told you so! Either way, it doesnt matter because how can you prove anything to a dead person or if everyone dies?

Christ says, "I AM the Beginning and THE END!"

(But) I will be with you all always, even unto death!

Whats going to happen to your universe when you all die? Think about it!

I believe I AM the One that keeps everything together. Holding you!

What is the purpose if we all are going to die anyways? Who really wins or loses? What was everything for at THE END?

I dont need to prove anything to anyone, I already did. Whats the point if we all die in THE END? Wheres the reward after?

This might sound deep but its very real questions that no one seems to have an accurate answer for because its unknowable! But let Me know if there is life after I die. Lol... Until then, I AM the Life!

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

Nevaeh420Its just My beliefs in Myself!

I'm nothing close to perfect but for some reason I believe that I AM the Life.

The reason seems to be that you have a chemical imbalance that is very common. As you know, there are meds and therapies to help you manage your delusion.

I dont know if you all can exist without Me- the Life!

If you really think this may be true, ask yourself how the world existed before you were born. Or did we all spring into existence the moment you were conceived?

It sounds delusional, and it might be, but what if?

If you are delusional, you are missing out on your one and only shot at experiencing most of the beauty and wonder this life has to offer. That's a steep price for a petty delusion. Also, if it's delusional (and we all agree that it is) we are free to not take anything you have to say seriously, so that's a time saver...

We will all find out when I die, if there is life after death. If there is life than good, if not than I told you so! Either way, it doesnt matter because how can you prove anything to a dead person or if everyone dies?

When you die, all else will go on but you won't know it. Because you'll be dead...

Christ says, "I AM the Beginning and THE END!"

(But) I will be with you all always, even unto death!

He said a LOT of shit. He was never big on clarity...

Whats going to happen to your universe when you all die? Think about it!

We have thought about it more than you have. The universe doesn't miss anything much, it'll be fine. You have to understand, there's a lot of stuff in it...

I believe I AM the One that keeps everything together. Holding you!

That's a part of the delusion we discussed earlier...

What is the purpose if we all are going to die anyways? Who really wins or loses? What was everything for at THE END?

I'm tired of this line of reasoning. The END is not the point, the only point is NOW. We don't avoid a killer party because it will end, we go because of the fun we'll have while we're there. Everything ends, most likely including the universe itself. That's why it's so important to live for now, not some supposed after-life. You have to shed your delusion and live fully NOW. Life is a great gift, don't waste it on nonsense...

I dont need to prove anything to anyone, I already did.

You haven't proven anything to anyone; not to us, not your family, not one single person. And you know it, so just stop...

Whats the point if we all die in THE END? Wheres the reward after?

We've been over this, don't be scared...

This might sound deep but its very real questions that no one seems to have an accurate answer for because its unknowable! But let Me know if there is life after I die. Lol... Until then, I AM the Life!

It's not deep, it's remedial philosophy at best. Step into scientific knowledge and reality to see how incredible things really are...

~PEACE~[/QUOTE]

 

[Nevaeh420]

Nevaeh420Its just My beliefs in Myself!

I'm nothing close to perfect but for some reason I believe that I AM the Life.

The reason seems to be that you have a chemical imbalance that is very common. As you know, there are meds and therapies to help you manage your delusion.

I dont know if you all can exist without Me- the Life!

If you really think this may be true, ask yourself how the world existed before you were born. Or did we all spring into existence the moment you were conceived?

It sounds delusional, and it might be, but what if?

If you are delusional, you are missing out on your one and only shot at experiencing most of the beauty and wonder this life has to offer. That's a steep price for a petty delusion. Also, if it's delusional (and we all agree that it is) we are free to not take anything you have to say seriously, so that's a time saver...

We will all find out when I die, if there is life after death. If there is life than good, if not than I told you so! Either way, it doesnt matter because how can you prove anything to a dead person or if everyone dies?

When you die, all else will go on but you won't know it. Because you'll be dead...

Christ says, "I AM the Beginning and THE END!"

(But) I will be with you all always, even unto death!

He said a LOT of shit. He was never big on clarity...

Whats going to happen to your universe when you all die? Think about it!

We have thought about it more than you have. The universe doesn't miss anything much, it'll be fine. You have to understand, there's a lot of stuff in it...

I believe I AM the One that keeps everything together. Holding you!

That's a part of the delusion we discussed earlier...

What is the purpose if we all are going to die anyways? Who really wins or loses? What was everything for at THE END?

I'm tired of this line of reasoning. The END is not the point, the only point is NOW. We don't avoid a killer party because it will end, we go because of the fun we'll have while we're there. Everything ends, most likely including the universe itself. That's why it's so important to live for now, not some supposed after-life. You have to shed your delusion and live fully NOW. Life is a great gift, don't waste it on nonsense...

I dont need to prove anything to anyone, I already did.

You haven't proven anything to anyone; not to us, not your family, not one single person. And you know it, so just stop...

Whats the point if we all die in THE END? Wheres the reward after?

We've been over this, don't be scared...

This might sound deep but its very real questions that no one seems to have an accurate answer for because its unknowable! But let Me know if there is life after I die. Lol... Until then, I AM the Life!

It's not deep, it's remedial philosophy at best. Step into scientific knowledge and reality to see how incredible things really are...

~PEACE~

Lol, you make some good points but your funny too bro!

I dont care, I dont care, I dont care.

When I'm dead I'll be dead. But we are all going to die.

What are the chances of being alive verses dead? That should say something about how special life is!

~PEACE~

 

[tyler.durden]

Lol, you make some good points but your funny too bro!

I dont care, I dont care, I dont care.

When I'm dead I'll be dead. But we are all going to die.

What are the chances of being alive verses dead? That should say something about how special life is!

~PEACE~

Your best post yet

 

[Beefbisquit]

Its just My beliefs in Myself!

I'm nothing close to perfect but for some reason I believe that I AM the Life.

The reason seems to be that you have a chemical imbalance that is very common. As you know, there are meds and therapies to help you manage your delusion.

I dont know if you all can exist without Me- the Life!

If you really think this may be true, ask yourself how the world existed before you were born. Or did we all spring into existence the moment you were conceived?

It sounds delusional, and it might be, but what if?

If you are delusional, you are missing out on your one and only shot at experiencing most of the beauty and wonder this life has to offer. That's a steep price for a petty delusion. Also, if it's delusional (and we all agree that it is) we are free to not take anything you have to say seriously, so that's a time saver...

We will all find out when I die, if there is life after death. If there is life than good, if not than I told you so! Either way, it doesnt matter because how can you prove anything to a dead person or if everyone dies?

When you die, all else will go on but you won't know it. Because you'll be dead...

Christ says, "I AM the Beginning and THE END!"

(But) I will be with you all always, even unto death!

He said a LOT of shit. He was never big on clarity...

Whats going to happen to your universe when you all die? Think about it!

We have thought about it more than you have. The universe doesn't miss anything much, it'll be fine. You have to understand, there's a lot of stuff in it...

I believe I AM the One that keeps everything together. Holding you!

That's a part of the delusion we discussed earlier...

What is the purpose if we all are going to die anyways? Who really wins or loses? What was everything for at THE END?

I'm tired of this line of reasoning. The END is not the point, the only point is NOW. We don't avoid a killer party because it will end, we go because of the fun we'll have while we're there. Everything ends, most likely including the universe itself. That's why it's so important to live for now, not some supposed after-life. You have to shed your delusion and live fully NOW. Life is a great gift, don't waste it on nonsense...

I dont need to prove anything to anyone, I already did.

You haven't proven anything to anyone; not to us, not your family, not one single person. And you know it, so just stop...

Whats the point if we all die in THE END? Wheres the reward after?

We've been over this, don't be scared...

This might sound deep but its very real questions that no one seems to have an accurate answer for because its unknowable! But let Me know if there is life after I die. Lol... Until then, I AM the Life!

It's not deep, it's remedial philosophy at best. Step into scientific knowledge and reality to see how incredible things really are...

~PEACE~

Fucking awesome, T.D..... Can't give you rep, but I'm mentally jerking you off right now. lol

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I should be keeping up with this thread better. There is lots of good stuff on here.

 

[skuba]

Is this supposed to be a useful definition or merely another attribute that itself has no actual meaning? What is 'life-force' and can you demonstrate it?

It's what animates the material nature. You know the difference between dead and alive. The definition for "energy" or "force" doesn't fit it, so we have "spirit."

 

[NietzscheKeen]

I know this is a bit off topic and I'm not trying to derail anything, but I wanted to share this because I thought it was very cool. When I speak of evidence of MY god, this is one of the things I'm talking about. The more I work to understand "him" the more I'm amazed and awed. The order behind all things in this universe. I hope this may give you the same "spiritual" feelings it gave me.

[video=youtube;wvJAgrUBF4w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w[/video]

 

[Padawanbater2]

It's what animates the material nature. You know the difference between dead and alive. The definition for "energy" or "force" doesn't fit it, so we have "spirit."

'Spirit' is a synonym for 'soul', neither have been shown to exist. It's a word for a religious concept, the idea that something lives on after your physical self dies.

 

[skuba]

Well that's always been the question, where does it go after death. that's where people bring these stories or theories out, religions are made. you're alive man, you have cell and brain function, your heart pumps, your lungs breathe. you're concsious. not all of that is due to your brain.

 

[Padawanbater2]

Well that's always been the question, where does it go after death. that's where people bring these stories or theories out, religions are made. you're alive man, you have cell and brain function, your heart pumps, your lungs breathe. you're concsious. not all of that is due to your brain.

Of course it is. You've entered into the arena of biology and human anatomy, it is a fact that your brain is responsible for every single physical function of your body.

Consciousness is simply a result of the circumstances that brought us together, you could say it was inevitable. This is, in my opinion, one of the most amazing facts about the universe and indeed, all of existence; trillions of inanimate atoms came together in such a way to work together to be able to ask questions about themselves.

This is far greater than the idea of any man made god.

 

[NietzscheKeen]

Well that's always been the question, where does it go after death. that's where people bring these stories or theories out, religions are made. you're alive man, you have cell and brain function, your heart pumps, your lungs breathe. you're concsious. not all of that is due to your brain.

WTF?!?!? It absolutely is.....

OUCH Jesus! That last sentence hurt me deep in my soul i.e. the seat of my emotions i.e. my brain (more or less). We can do some simple thought experiments to determine where the soul is and isn't, if you'd like?

Help yourself to a neuroscience class. I will send you my old text books if you'd like. There is nothing about us as humans or any other animals that cannot be explained completely by brain function and/or the nervous and adrenal system.

Just do a jstor search or go to your nearest university library and head to the journal section if you want evidence.