email468 - Big Bud and PPP grow

[shnkrmn]

I wish they were mine. nothing straggly about those plants! they look fine to me.

Thanks. I'm sure I can do better. I had another plant in a hempy bucket and was truly amazed at the growth rate using that method. That thing was close to 30" when I had to chop HIM down. My baseline is my past outdoor growing so if I don't get 5-footers I'm disappointed. Once again, though, I've learned some more solid lessons about indoor growing so onward and upward, ever higher and higher!

 

[email468]

Thanks. I'm sure I can do better. I had another plant in a hempy bucket and was truly amazed at the growth rate using that method. That thing was close to 30" when I had to chop HIM down. My baseline is my past outdoor growing so if I don't get 5-footers I'm disappointed. Once again, though, I've learned some more solid lessons about indoor growing so onward and upward, ever higher and higher!

to get a 5 footer using a 1000w HID you'd need some pretty high ceilings indeed!

 

[shnkrmn]

to get a 5 footer using a 1000w HID you'd need some pretty high ceilings indeed!

LOL. I know. I have 600w HPS and 4 65w CFLs. Part of my basement is dirt floor; I could always dig down a few feet! I can see why people get light movers and top their plants or LST when growing indoors; it's hard to get much light anywhere except the top of the plant. Has anyone ever tried just laying a plant over on its side once it reaches a certain size? Then you could train all the side branches over to one side and there you go; multiple colas without topping.

I've been thinking lately that things like mylar or panda film or just white painted enclosures probably don't really have much effect on conserving or redistributing light since the inverse square law coupled with a certain amount of light absorption in whichever material you are using would really render the amount of reflected light negligible. Plus it's a lot easier to disperse heat. I could be wrong; it's happened before.

 

[email468]

LOL. I know. I have 600w HPS and 4 65w CFLs. Part of my basement is dirt floor; I could always dig down a few feet! I can see why people get light movers and top their plants or LST when growing indoors; it's hard to get much light anywhere except the top of the plant. Has anyone ever tried just laying a plant over on its side once it reaches a certain size? Then you could train all the side branches over to one side and there you go; multiple colas without topping.

I've been thinking lately that things like mylar or panda film or just white painted enclosures probably don't really have much effect on conserving or redistributing light since the inverse square law coupled with a certain amount of light absorption in whichever material you are using would really render the amount of reflected light negligible. Plus it's a lot easier to disperse heat. I could be wrong; it's happened before.

you are right on nearly all counts! i have noted plants growing towards the mylar rather than the light so i think a reflective surface (close) may help quite a bit. some people do sideways grows. using a vertical light would be the slicker to get light deep down.

I'm going to try using a horizontal trellis and keeping the plants growing sideways that way. once i get it started -- i'll post a journal. i guess it would be kind of a SCRoG but what the hell do i know?!?!

 

[Alto]

I am doing that next go round (ScrOG) in August
If you don't do it soon, you will have the benefit from my mistakes

 

[email468]

I am doing that next go round (ScrOG) in August
If you don't do it soon, you will have the benefit from my mistakes

I'll probably beat that date - you can learn from mine i guess - though hopefully they will be few and uneventful...mistakes that is. i think taking care of the heat issue is going to greatly help matters.

 

[toke4smoke]

you ever ganna post pics

 

[Alto]

I'll probably beat that date - you can learn from mine i guess - though hopefully they will be few and uneventful...mistakes that is. i think taking care of the heat issue is going to greatly help matters.

Cool...
What are you thinking about using as your "trellis"?
I found some nice wire poultry netting thats 2"x3" and coated with vinyl.
I am going to run the light close to it for a while to see if the plastic coating gasses out any, don't want that to happen during the grow.
I may stick to straight ahead galvanized wire tho (its cheaper) I just worry about rust with the acidic nutes solutions.
A wooden grid could always be an alternative too, I just have to see what I can find locally.

 

[F4o12te]

your final yield that was aounce short of a pound, was that dryand cured ??

 

[F4o12te]

dry and curred*

 

[email468]

you ever ganna post pics

tons of pics - gotta wade through the journal.

 

[email468]

your final yield that was aounce short of a pound, was that dryand cured ??

that was a different grow but no - my scale was off. i ended up with a more normal 2-3 oz per plant (6-9 oz total).

 

[email468]

Cool...
What are you thinking about using as your "trellis"?
I found some nice wire poultry netting thats 2"x3" and coated with vinyl.
I am going to run the light close to it for a while to see if the plastic coating gasses out any, don't want that to happen during the grow.
I may stick to straight ahead galvanized wire tho (its cheaper) I just worry about rust with the acidic nutes solutions.
A wooden grid could always be an alternative too, I just have to see what I can find locally.

i am using regular plastic gardening trellis which i stapled about 18" above my system. I say trellis but it is more of a net.

 

[GrnMan]

Hey email, word around town is you got a new grow going? What's the haps brotha??

 

[LoudBlunts]

damn inspecta gadget??? lol

 

[GrnMan]

damn inspecta gadget??? lol

HEH, more like....

 

[LoudBlunts]

LMAO word!

 

[email468]

Hey email, word around town is you got a new grow going? What's the haps brotha??

yes - got a new one started -- about a week into it now. I am working on my journal and pictures. And i want to give them some time to see if they're going to grow well before i bother posting a new journal (so far so good).

you'll see something within the next 2-20 days

word around town... that cracked me up!

 

[GrnMan]

Don't tease me bro!

 

[email468]

Don't tease me bro!

oh man - don't worry. they just formed their first set of leaves and just today saw the taproot extending below the netpot for the first time.

good leafy shots are weeks away! and bud shots more than a month away.

plenty of time...