applepoop1984
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are you sure you dont have a few extra chromosomes?
newbies increase your yields with these tips
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Jeffdogg
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That has to be the most ignorant thing I have read on this site to date... New growers shouldn't worry about the Ph of their grow? So its acceptable for a grower to grow plants with a PH above 8.0 just because they are new it will magically work for them and will not have any issues with an 8.0+ PH? PH is one of the more important things they need to learn about when growing for the first time.
Thats exactly what you have been doing on this site. Ive seen your ignorant posts and they are more detrimental then helpful
Jeffdogg
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Sounds more like the dudes straight up inbred
Highlowazupkush
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lol.. Flush? Hmmm.... Im growing Blueberry strain atm and apparently they grow well without ferts! so im gona test that theory out by adding ferts to just one plant. But anyway, flushing is for plants that have had lots of ferts added, isn't it?
or is it useful even if you haven't added ferts?
Prune? I think its only good to prune a plant if the leaves are causing the plant to do something undesirable. No examples come to mind.
PH? I dunno man. I saw a ph testing device at the store today for 30zl. it also tested the soil for something else (that's about the price of two decent sized subway meals.)
I reckon that if you put in a little bit more effort to make your plants soil perfect, then its worth it if your plant grows much nicer as a result of your extra work.
Ballsonrawls
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i think PH is important. Although it depends how you are growing. Outdoor, a little lime and youre gravy
chuck estevez
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applepoop1984
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flushing will affect the overall taste. some inorganic phosphate fertilizers are notorious for having heavy metals in them. lead cadmium etc. it is necessary to flush because you obviously do not want heavy metals. however if you are trousers, chucky esteves or imptroll feel free to ingest as many toxic metals as you see fit. they honestly believe curing is going to remove metals like lead and cadmium from there bud. they also dont believe nutrients are not stored in the plant. if youv ever done a water cure, youd know that if you use a urea based fertilizer during the grow , and you water cure, the water smells like piss. this is because the urea based nitrogen has been leached out of the buds during the water cure.
if you are using organics you dont have to flush but it will help with the cure. you are flushing nutrients out of the soil reducing the uptake of nutrients and allowing the plant to slowly process the starches stored in the leaves . as long as you have almost half of your leaves green by harvest it shouldnt affect yield.
it is not good to prune blatantly. pruning should be done to increase growth ie fimming . pruning fan leaves basically is removing energy from the plant. the only time you shoudl remove leaves is if they come of with the slightest pull . you dont want dead leaves in your canopy they reduce air flow and could lead to mold. see post #1 for info on ph. you want a digital meter and you want to ph your water to 5.9-6.5 range and collect the runoff water in a glass or bowl and measure that to gauge the ph of your soil after watering. for instance if you ph your water to 6.5 and you water your plant, collect the run off and stir thoroughly and the ph comes out to 7.0 your soil ph before you watered was 7.5
chuck estevez
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because if your a plant, after the microbes break down the nutrients, you go ahead and uptake some heavy metals, LMFAO, applepoop, quit making shit up.
applepoop1984
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http://pedology.ac.affrc.go.jp/specialI/SI54_3/sepPDF/01_Grant.pdf
http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/eh/risk/studies/metals.html
http://njaes.rutgers.edu/pubs/soilprofile/sp-v16.pdf
http://fses.oregonstate.edu/node/127 [h=2]DGT estimates cadmium accumulation in wheat and potato from phosphate fertilizer applications.[/h]
OOOOOHHHH!!!!!!! who didnt think heavy metals weren't uptaken into the plants??? tough luck chuck did!
chuck estevez
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what a dumb beaver, Please explain how a plant uptakes HEAVY METALS,
chuck estevez
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read the first paragraph of your own damn post, it says a BUILD UP of heavy metals can occur in soil. How can it build up if the plant is uptaking it and your flushing it out? Where does this heavy metal go, does it magically disappear??
applepoop1984
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this:
"Cadmium is a common impurity in phosphatic fertilizers and may contribute to soil Cd accumulation. Changes in total and bioavailable Cd burdens to agricultural soils and the potential for plant Cd accumulation resulting from fertilizer input was investigated. Three year field studies were conducted using three dose levels of cadmium-rich, commercial, phosphate fertilizers applied at four agricultural sites. Labile Cd concentrations, measured using the passive sampling device Diffusive Gradients in Thin Films (Cd(DGT)), increased with increasing fertilizer application rates. Cd also accumulated in the edible portion of wheat and potato crops grown at the sites, and showed strong positive dose response with fertilizer treatment"
OOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!! WRONG AGAIN!!!!
chuck estevez
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from your own link,
Of the large number of fertilizer products evaluated, only a few have been found to have contaminants at levels high enough to be considered a potential health concern (i.e., arsenic or dioxins in some micronutrient and liming materials). Product testing by states, including Minnesota, generally has supported this conclusion.
A recent national study of fertilizer source materials used to supply major nutrients (N*P*K) concluded that these materials generally do not contain significant amounts of heavy metals to be of
immediate concern
Plus these studies are done on soil reused and referted over 3 years, I use my soil for 4 months and trash it, NEXT
Of the large number of fertilizer products evaluated, only a few have been found to have contaminants at levels high enough to be considered a potential health concern (i.e., arsenic or dioxins in some micronutrient and liming materials). Product testing by states, including Minnesota, generally has supported this conclusion.
A recent national study of fertilizer source materials used to supply major nutrients (N*P*K) concluded that these materials generally do not contain significant amounts of heavy metals to be of
immediate concern
Plus these studies are done on soil reused and referted over 3 years, I use my soil for 4 months and trash it, NEXT
brotherjericho
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I guess this would make sense if someone is growing in the same soil for 3 years.
applepoop1984
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it was grown outdoors . maybe youd have an argument for a potted plant but you dont. werent you the one that said plants cant uptake nutrients metals etc into the fruit? how does that birds beak pie taste?
applepoop1984
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do you think ssmoking those heavy metals might be more concern than eating them? i think you need to lower your cadmium intake
brotherjericho
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Uh, really? How are you going to get those organic nutrients out of the soil? They don't flush out that easily (if at all) particularly if you used powdered/granulated organic nutes like I use.
brotherjericho
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I said nothing about this particular part of the thread until now.
chuck estevez
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So smart guy, if I did get a build up in 4 months(yeah right) and I flushed(yeah right) where does this metal go? and smoking wouldn't burn heavy metals, i would have a pile of metal after taking a rip according to your theories,lol
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