What do you know about aliens?

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Impman

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Scientists have sent the atomic structure of chemicals across a body of water, not the chemical itself, the water particles just take form of the chemical thats on the other end of the pond I guess, I cant remember. Im paraphrasing but the scientists said its a step in the direction of teleportation. Aliens probably have that shit down pat for transportation. Or they could be interdemesional too, theres obviously some way they can get here faster than light can.

A million years is a blink of an eye when it comes to the age of the universe. Its more than possible for an intelligent species to be one million years more advanced than us and have figured out and mastered the physics of the universe to the point were physics and metaphysics finally meet and are able to be controlled.
true story, inread it in New York Times, alothough couldnt begin to describe what it means
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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How would you know what they know?



Are you ready?



You assume they exist and that they've been to Earth.


What is that? AFAIK technology has been working just fine without being infused by spirit...


Whose to say they are?


Why assume the bolded? If they ever came here, why couldn't it have been through one of the several theoretical ways that we know are possibilities?



There can be no debate without logic. Much to your dismay, skepticism and logic is here to stay and trumps wishful, speculative bullshit every time...
I think a lot of your posts are proving my point. Your assumptions are as good as mine.

I think its pretty obvious that they know that most of humanity isnt ready for reality. Shit would hit the fan in religion and government, they would be the enemies of the aliens. Religion would be an enemy because the aliens would be spreading evil lies and lead everyone to hell. The government would be an enemy because they wouldnt be the highest authority anymore and they would want that power back in order to keep the masses working like slaves for their benefit. It would probably turn into a war.

Fuck yeah Im ready! lol Are you ready?

I dont assume. I just think the cover ups are ridiculously obvious... Weather balloons lol.

Spirit infused technology could be anything. Dreams and spiritual realms are said to be nearly limitless so spirit infused technology could achieve the impossible. I think you knew that you could easily use your imagination for this one but you just tried to ask a question like you had me stumped lol.

You're question of "Whos to say they are?" is equally as valid as my question of "Whos to say they arent?"... Proving what I said before, your assumptions are as good as mine.

Much of what witnesses see in the sky defies reality. Much of the reported characteristics of aliens defies reality. So once again, my assumption is as good as yours. also, Im not aware of these theoretical possibilities, Im interested in how they can get here faster than light can though.

Im not trying to get rid of logic and skepticism. Its just that you're trying to pass assumptions as logic and skepticism.... Weather balloons... lol
 

Padawanbater2

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So no comment on your assumptions about aliens? Because they are assumptions. If they're here then they clearly defied our understanding of logic in order to get here, so your arguments (assumptions) are just as good as mine.

You falling back on a skeptical phrase instead of addressing the points I made shows what ground you are making in this debate.
It would change everything, and they know the world isnt ready for that kinda change. Most of the world is not ready for reality, it would be chaos.

You too have to realize that your arguments are assumptions as well. You assume they occupy the the space between point A and point B when they travel. You assume the motives they would have if they were to come here. You assume that they arent masters of manipulating reality through things like spirit infused technology. Whos to say that they arent completely connected to the universe and know of every species that are worth paying attention to? I know what Im about to say means nothing but my spiritual friend says the Earth is a special place because its one of the amazing planets that gives birth to souls. If I was an alien, I'd think that would be worth checking out. If they're here, the defied our understanding of reality in order to get here, so I dont think skeptical logic holds much weight in this debate.
How do you know an advanced intelligent alien species "knows the world isn't ready for that kind of change"?

How do you know such a revelation would "be chaos"?

I don't assume aliens would require traversing the void of space, I include in my questions the possibility of teleportation, regardless of how unlikely it may be. I believe the points made remain valid

I don't assume their motives, I simply question them

"Spirit infused technology" requires a definition

Who is to say "they" are?
 

tyler.durden

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I think a lot of your posts are proving my point. Your assumptions are as good as mine.

I think its pretty obvious that they know that most of humanity isnt ready for reality. Shit would hit the fan in religion and government, they would be the enemies of the aliens. Religion would be an enemy because the aliens would be spreading evil lies and lead everyone to hell. The government would be an enemy because they wouldnt be the highest authority anymore and they would want that power back in order to keep the masses working like slaves for their benefit. It would probably turn into a war.

Fuck yeah Im ready! lol Are you ready?

I dont assume. I just think the cover ups are ridiculously obvious... Weather balloons lol.

Spirit infused technology could be anything. Dreams and spiritual realms are said to be nearly limitless so spirit infused technology could achieve the impossible. I think you knew that you could easily use your imagination for this one but you just tried to ask a question like you had me stumped lol.

You're question of "Whos to say they are?" is equally as valid as my question of "Whos to say they arent?"... Proving what I said before, your assumptions are as good as mine.
Oh, Chief. One step forward, forty steps back. You are obviously intelligent and have a great grasp of the English language, so I know that you understand what is probably the most touted memes on this board, The Burden of Proof and Occam's Razor. Logic dictates the one who is making the positive claim (spirituality, soul, aliens, telepathy, etc., exists) is the one who needs to provide the evidence. And the more extraordinary the claim, the more extraordinary the evidence needs to be. Occam's razor is the logical concept that states the explanation that makes the fewest assumptions is usually the correct one. Your entire belief system seems to be made up of assumption after assumption. It seems like it would topple over if one of the major pieces we're pulled out, that's why I asked you that hypothetical question the other day. I've read others' opinion of how they think you are progressing in your integrity and cognitive ability, but I disagree. Imo, you understand all of these concepts and willfully choose to combat or ignore them in order to further your own ideology. That is disingenuous and deceptive, and not worthy of any praise...

Much of what witnesses see in the sky defies reality. Much of the reported characteristics of aliens defies reality. So once again, my assumption is as good as yours. also, Im not aware of these theoretical possibilities, Im interested in how they can get here faster than light can though. Im not trying to get rid of logic and skepticism. Its just that you're trying to pass assumptions as logic and skepticism.... Weather balloons... lol
You attempt to get rid of logic and skepticism only when it interferes with your worldview. You are quick to use them against worldviews that differ from your own, that's why I know you are adept in employing them. You should simply use those skills in regards to your own beliefs, it seems you try very hard not to do this. You may now go back to laughing out loud over weather balloons...
 

tyler.durden

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I watched it and read yours, i was just pointing something out,there was no link needed ,even you found it easy to find!
If you viewed our material, you (should have) learned that your post was deceptive. If you want people to listen to what you have say, make it easy for them by providing links. Not everyone is as patient as I am...
 

ineverveg

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Not everyone is as patient as I am...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

Superiority complex in everyday usage means having very high opinion of oneself. In psychology it refers to the same attitude, however in psychology it is considered that the attitude is actually a way to hide or compensate for feeling of inferiority. It was a term introduced by psychologist Alfred Adler in series of his books like "Understanding Human Nature", "Social Interest" etc.

Some people brought up in a background where one has to fulfill high expectations and have been able to do so may feel superior towards others. To some, it is part of their nature.

Those exhibiting the superiority complex commonly project their feelings of inferiority onto others they perceive as beneath them, possibly for the same reasons they themselves may have been ostracized, i.e. viewing most, possibly all others as "ugly" or "stupid", and beneath oneself. Accusations of arrogance are often made by others when referring to the individual exhibiting the superiority complex.

Behaviors related to this mechanism may include an exaggeratedly positive opinion of one’s worth and abilities, unrealistically high expectations in goals and achievements for oneself and others, the persistent attempt to correct others regardless of whether they are factually correct or not, vanity, extravagant style in dressing (with intent of drawing attention), excessive need for competition, pride, sentimentalism and affected exaltation, snobbishness, a tendency to discredit other’s opinions, forcefulness aimed at dominating those considered as weaker or less important, credulity, and others.

Social aloofness, daydreaming and isolation could also be associated with the Superiority Complex, as a way for one to evade the fear of failure related to the feelings of inadequacy to face the real world.

Superiority and inferiority complex are often found together as the different expressions of the same pathology and the two complexes can exist within the same individual. Superiority can also be caused by PTSD

when I was reading about this & gorgive me for sharing this article with you - its long-.

DO NOT FEED thier Ego...
Be very confident & self-assured around them & do not be the victim, as you will FEED their disorder, if you do.
Just try as much as to avoid – if you can- confronting them and even make your communication as slight channeled as you can.
God help you …. I know someone like this, it’s a nightmare.

rofl.....:peace:

tried posting it again moderator!,I cant really understand what i did wrong and why it was deleted ! could you just edit it this time if i have broken the rules!
 

Beefbisquit

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

Superiority complex in everyday usage means having very high opinion of oneself. In psychology it refers to the same attitude, however in psychology it is considered that the attitude is actually a way to hide or compensate for feeling of inferiority. It was a term introduced by psychologist Alfred Adler in series of his books like "Understanding Human Nature", "Social Interest" etc.

Some people brought up in a background where one has to fulfill high expectations and have been able to do so may feel superior towards others. To some, it is part of their nature.

Those exhibiting the superiority complex commonly project their feelings of inferiority onto others they perceive as beneath them, possibly for the same reasons they themselves may have been ostracized, i.e. viewing most, possibly all others as "ugly" or "stupid", and beneath oneself. Accusations of arrogance are often made by others when referring to the individual exhibiting the superiority complex.

Behaviors related to this mechanism may include an exaggeratedly positive opinion of one’s worth and abilities, unrealistically high expectations in goals and achievements for oneself and others, the persistent attempt to correct others regardless of whether they are factually correct or not, vanity, extravagant style in dressing (with intent of drawing attention), excessive need for competition, pride, sentimentalism and affected exaltation, snobbishness, a tendency to discredit other’s opinions, forcefulness aimed at dominating those considered as weaker or less important, credulity, and others.

Social aloofness, daydreaming and isolation could also be associated with the Superiority Complex, as a way for one to evade the fear of failure related to the feelings of inadequacy to face the real world.

Superiority and inferiority complex are often found together as the different expressions of the same pathology and the two complexes can exist within the same individual. Superiority can also be caused by PTSD

when I was reading about this & gorgive me for sharing this article with you - its long-.

DO NOT FEED thier Ego...
Be very confident & self-assured around them & do not be the victim, as you will FEED their disorder, if you do.
Just try as much as to avoid – if you can- confronting them and even make your communication as slight channeled as you can.
God help you …. I know someone like this, it’s a nightmare.

rofl.....:peace:

tried posting it again moderator!,I cant really understand what i did wrong and why it was deleted ! could you just edit it this time if i have broken the rules!
If the vast majority of people who are experts in any given field believe something to be true, and have solid reasoning behind that belief, it's not a superiority complex to believe them, it's called accepting demonstrable evidence. The reasons behind wanting to be correct, don't really matter in this case.

Even if T.D. had a superiority complex, which he doesn't (he's just letting you know your line of thinking is erroneous), it doesn't mean he's wrong.

Your, "I can't beat him in a debate, so I'll accuse him of having a medical condition so I don't have to defend my beliefs", scapegoat is laughably easy to spot and isn't fooling anyone. If you want to bow out of the debate, then do so; but don't make up bullshit about other people in an attempt to shift the spotlight off yourself and your demonstrably irrational beliefs.
 

ineverveg

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If the vast majority of people who are experts in any given field believe something to be true, and have solid reasoning behind that belief, it's not a superiority complex to believe them, it's called accepting demonstrable evidence. The reasons behind wanting to be correct, don't really matter in this case.

Even if T.D. had a superiority complex, which he doesn't (he's just letting you know your line of thinking is erroneous), it doesn't mean he's wrong.

Your, "I can't beat him in a debate, so I'll accuse him of having a medical condition so I don't have to defend my beliefs", scapegoat is laughably easy to spot and isn't fooling anyone. If you want to bow out of the debate, then do so; but don't make up bullshit about other people in an attempt to shift the spotlight off yourself and your demonstrably irrational beliefs.
YOU would say that though ,you're his friend

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tyler.durden

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Ineverveg, that was a lot of words to avoid conceding our points and/or admitting your link was not credible. Why do you have such trouble admitting when you are wrong? I haven't seen any skeptics here have a problem with it, and they certainly don't have a problem correcting their fellow skeptics where needed, buddies or not. It is not so bad, you can use the opportunity as a learning experience to improve your knowledge of reality and critical thinking skills...
 

Nevaeh420

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I remain unconvinced...

[video=youtube;tKiWRwcHbP8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKiWRwcHbP8[/video]
Do you guys see the alien faces in the picture at 55 seconds into the video? I'm surprised that no one picked up on this.

Whats up with the alien faces?

But anyways, I don't understand why some of you assume that the aliens are coming from another galaxy like at the other end of the universe or something. They could have bases on the dark side of the moon, or one of the moons in our solar system or even a planet like mars. Whos to say they don't have bases on the earth like under the ocean or something? They might not have to travel that far because they could be in our solar system. And whos to say how long they could have been in our solar system for?

Either way, I saw a being that I believe was an alien, so I believe they have been to earth. The rest of you did not see an alien so you need more proof and I doubt you'll get more proof anywhere. So its a stalemate.

~PEACE~
 

Padawanbater2

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Do you guys see the alien faces in the picture at 55 seconds into the video? I'm surprised that no one picked up on this.

Whats up with the alien faces?

But anyways, I don't understand why some of you assume that the aliens are coming from another galaxy like at the other end of the universe or something. They could have bases on the dark side of the moon, or one of the moons in our solar system or even a planet like mars. Whos to say they don't have bases on the earth like under the ocean or something? They might not have to travel that far because they could be in our solar system. And whos to say how long they could have been in our solar system for?

Either way, I saw a being that I believe was an alien, so I believe they have been to earth. The rest of you did not see an alien so you need more proof and I doubt you'll get more proof anywhere. So its a stalemate.

~PEACE~
And that ladies and gentlemen is why we leave the science up to the scientists..

It's funny you think that's the way it works.

You saw a being you believe to be an alien, so that wraps it up, aliens have absolutely come to Earth.

Idiotic bullshit like this exists solely because ignorant lazy people like you refuse to educate yourself about anything that will contradict your beliefs.
 

Nevaeh420

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And that ladies and gentlemen is why we leave the science up to the scientists..

It's funny you think that's the way it works.

You saw a being you believe to be an alien, so that wraps it up, aliens have absolutely come to Earth.

Idiotic bullshit like this exists solely because ignorant lazy people like you refuse to educate yourself about anything that will contradict your beliefs.
Whatever!

You cant prove that I did NOT see an alien.

You don't know what I saw more than I don't know what I saw. Its not that I don't know what I saw, its just that I don't know what or who was behind that invisibility suit. It sounds crazy that I saw a being wearing an invisibility suit, but I don't know how else to describe it. Maybe the technology is crazy to us but mundane to the aliens?

~PEACE~
 

Padawanbater2

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Whatever!

You cant prove that I did NOT see an alien.

You don't know what I saw more than I don't know what I saw. Its not that I don't know what I saw, its just that I don't know what or who was behind that invisibility suit. It sounds crazy that I saw a being wearing an invisibility suit, but I don't know how else to describe it. Maybe the technology is crazy to us but mundane to the aliens?

~PEACE~
And you can't prove that I don't have an invisible dragon in my garage, and that's why we don't test things we can't verify. Why can't you seem to grasp this basic concept? It is not up to me to prove you didn't see a being in an invisible suit. It is up to you to prove you did. Until you can do that, your experience is useless in the eyes of science.
 

Nevaeh420

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And you can't prove that I don't have an invisible dragon in my garage, and that's why we don't test things we can't verify. Why can't you seem to grasp this basic concept? It is not up to me to prove you didn't see a being in an invisible suit. It is up to you to prove you did. Until you can do that, your experience is useless in the eyes of science.
I'm sorry, because I don't have any evidence even for Myself. For example, I don't have a piece of his suit or any remaining of the being and I also don't have a video. I just have a good memory of what I saw. Don't you think I would love to show you all the same thing that I saw that day? And say, "SEE I TOLD YOU SO, it looks like an alien". I would love to have tons of evidence to prove My facts.

The only thing that I can think of that might be some kind of evidence is if I were to go take a lie detector test and go "on the record" to prove that I'm not lying. And if I was NOT lying than the only other options would be I was delusional at the time of the sighting or telling the truth about the event to the best of My ability. That's the best I can think of. I don't have the aliens cell phone number to call him and ask him to replay the scene again so I can get it on video tape. And if it was NOT an alien than it was a person, maybe from a top secret military project that has the coolest invisibility technology. I don't know how big the being was on top of the roof, but I'd say it was a little guy, maybe 3-5 feet tall; My best guess is around 4ft tall. But I have nothing to compare it to, because I have never seen anyone else on top of that roof.

If I'm telling the truth, and I wasn't delusional at the time of the sighting than its a fact that there was a being on top of My neighbors roof. I don't know if it was a person or an alien, but its still a fact to Me that there was a being (that had the coolest invisibility technology) on My neighbors roof in 2012. I wish I had a souvenir from the being but I don't. I wish I had it ALL on video tape but I don't. I would like to watch it again and again and again Myself, trust Me.

EDIT- I did take a picture the roof (where the alien was), from My vantage point. The picture of the roof, as I saw it from My BB gun, is on My cell phone. But there were no aliens on the roof, or if there were any aliens, they were completely invisible. HAHA. But I don't know how to upload the picture to the computer, and even if I did know how to upload the picture, I don't have a USB connection to My cell.

But you guys can not tell Me that I did NOT see an alien because you were not there. And I cant tell you that I'm 100% sure it WAS an alien because I'm not sure. But I might just say that I saw an alien because it sounds better than saying "I saw a being" all the time.

~PEACE~
 

ineverveg

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If you viewed our material, you (should have) learned that your post was deceptive. If you want people to listen to what you have say, make it easy for them by providing links. Not everyone is as patient as I am...
Ineverveg, that was a lot of words to avoid conceding our points and/or admitting your link was not credible. Why do you have such trouble admitting when you are wrong? I haven't seen any skeptics here have a problem with it, and they certainly don't have a problem correcting their fellow skeptics where needed, buddies or not. It is not so bad, you can use the opportunity as a learning experience to improve your knowledge of reality and critical thinking skills...
I don't believe it was deceptive ,i don't have to provide links,i didn't intentionally provide a link as it was a cut and paste which automatically linked the name of the author which you assumed was a link !
There was a lot of 'words' really just to explain your character flaws and i offered other members advice on how to deal with you and others with the same complex ,thats all!
 

tyler.durden

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I don't believe it was deceptive ,i don't have to provide links,i didn't intentionally provide a link as it was a cut and paste which automatically linked the name of the author which you assumed was a link !
There was a lot of 'words' really just to explain your character flaws and i offered other members advice on how to deal with you and others with the same complex ,thats all!
Our supposed character flaws had nothing to do with the debate. We showed you why the info in your post was incorrect, and by still attempting to promote it afterward is deceptive regardless of what you think. You suck at debate and are not worthy of it, and you are not concerned with facts, logic, or learning about reality. You had several chances to converse with the adults, but I think I will join MP in his assessment of you and relegate you to the children's table. Try not to make too big a mess over there...
 

Heisenberg

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Our supposed character flaws had nothing to do with the debate. We showed you why the info in your post was incorrect, and by still attempting to promote it afterward is deceptive regardless of what you think. You suck at debate and are not worthy of it, and you are not concerned with facts, logic, or learning about reality. You had several chances to converse with the adults, but I think I will join MP in his assessment of you and relegate you to the children's table. Try not to make too big a mess over there...
I believe the pigeon playing chess analogy is apt. No matter what moves or strategies you present, the pigeon will just knock over all the pieces and shit all over the board and then strut around as if it is victorious. ineverveg has shit on himself, rubbed it in his hair and is now pointing and laughing at you for using shampoo.
 

Nevaeh420

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I believe the pigeon playing chess analogy is apt. No matter what moves or strategies you present, the pigeon will just knock over all the pieces and shit all over the board and then strut around as if it is victorious. ineverveg has shit on himself, rubbed it in his hair and is now pointing and laughing at you for using shampoo.
That's real funny Heisenberg! LMAO!

But the reason why I wanted to post was because of the following video.

[youtube]NwyeK36Gh-s[/youtube]

~PEACE~
 
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