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SirGreenThumb

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schuylaar said:
ding! ding! ding!..it's called MANSLAUGHTER
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Florida Law on Manslaughter:
[SIZE=-1]782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.—(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(2)(b) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084

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Evidence points to self defense.

schuylaar said:
How do you know I don't carry, or for that matter am not in law enforcement myself?
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I know you don't carry because you would be well versed in self defense and the laws that surround it.

I also know you're not law enforcement because you would be found out in an instant in this forum, and you also don't know the laws surrounding self defense. :lol:

Edit: I point you to find a "once" user of this forum named Kaendar (sp)
 
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schuylaar

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desert dude said:
The gun was on Zim's right hip, not the small of his back. Being correct on basic facts would help your story.

"Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." The fact that TM touched Z's gun and left no DNA means nothing.
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NO NO it was tucked in the back VIGILANTE STYLE..

There is nothing to support THEORY of anyone touching GZ's gun other than himself.
 
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NoDrama

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schuylaar said:
NO NO it was tucked in the back VIGILANTE STYLE..

There is nothing to support THEORY of anyone touching GZ's gun other than himself.
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Vigilante style? LMFAO hoo hoo haww haww ho ho hee hee.

Don't you know that vigilantes only carry S&W model 29's in a hog leg shoulder holster under their sport coat? Jesus you are dumb.

Vigilante style. lol lol lol oh man thats a good one.

Me thinks you wouldn't know vigilante style, from granny style, to gangnam style. Seriously.
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
Vigilante style? LMFAO hoo hoo haww haww ho ho hee hee.

Don't you know that vigilantes only carry S&W model 29's in a hog leg shoulder holster under their sport coat? Jesus you are dumb.

Vigilante style. lol lol lol oh man thats a good one.

Me thinks you wouldn't know vigilante style, from granny style, to gangnam style. Seriously.
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Perhaps you can link me to the official vigilante handbook so I may check the rules since you know them so well?
 
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schuylaar

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SirGreenThumb said:
Florida Law on Manslaughter:
[SIZE=-1]782.07 Manslaughter; aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult; aggravated manslaughter of a child; aggravated manslaughter of an officer, a firefighter, an emergency medical technician, or a paramedic.—(1) The killing of a human being by the act, procurement, or culpable negligence of another, without lawful justification according to the provisions of chapter 776 and in cases in which such killing shall not be excusable homicide or murder, according to the provisions of this chapter, is manslaughter, a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(2) A person who causes the death of any elderly person or disabled adult by culpable negligence under s. 825.102(3) commits aggravated manslaughter of an elderly person or disabled adult, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) A person who causes the death of any person under the age of 18 by culpable negligence under s. 827.03(2)(b) commits aggravated manslaughter of a child, a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084

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Evidence points to self defense.


I know you don't carry because you would be well versed in self defense and the laws that surround it.

I also know you're not law enforcement because you would be found out in an instant in this forum, and you also don't know the laws surrounding self defense. :lol:

Edit: I point you to find a "once" user of this forum named Kaendar (sp)
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Number 3 works for me.

You don't know anything about me.
 
MuyLocoNC

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Another bad day for the prosecution. They're starting to stack up, don't ya think?

So we have the closest eyewitness confirming Z's account of the struggle and subsequent shooting. We have the lead investigator confirming his belief that Z's account was truthful. We have a forensic expert confirming TM was on top of Z at the time of the shooting AND Z's injuries were consistent with having your head slammed on a sidewalk. And as a cherry on top, you have a legal atmosphere where Z could have actually started the physical altercation and still has the right to use deadly force if HE believed his life was in peril. Unless they have video showing something else happened, it's going to be hard to get a conviction on any level.

A hung jury is looking very likely.
 
Walter9999

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NietzscheKeen said:
Exactly. No one wants to get in a fight, but only a coward or a fool would sit around while someone suspicious skulks around. And as captain of the neighborhood watch, He had a responsibility to get to the bottom of it. It's his job; he has a responsibility to the community. He undoubtedly would have done the same for a white kid that he didn't recognize that was walking around.
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this is a fuckin hilarious statement and says something about where we're at as a society
 
MuyLocoNC

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schuylaar said:
There is no evidence that GZ's life was ever in danger=NO SELF DEFENSE
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You couldn't be more wrong. His life didn't have to be in danger, he only had to believe it was. But, even with that said, do you think he gave himself those injuries after he shot TM, while in plain sight of the closest eyewitness?
 
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schuylaar

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NoDrama said:
The 911 in that area is made up of civilians, they have zero authority to tell anyone to do anything, they are not the police. You should try try try to get your facts straight.

GZ WAS the neighborhood watch captain, and has just as much authority to ask anyone he deems suspicious of their actions as the police.
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Police Dispatch are not the police? NEITHER IS GEORGE ZIMMERMAN..

Yeah I'm SURE he was captain, no doubt..this guys such a wannabe and guess what? he has a history of assault (on police officer for one). He is an AGGRESSOR.
 
UncleBuck

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schuylaar said:
You must be living in a parallel universe.:wall:
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desert dud is confusing the legal definition of innocent with the more colloquial definition of innocent.

yes, zimmerman is presumed "innocent" until proven guilty, but his actions make him far from "innocent", even if he is found not guilty.

i believe the phrase used by serino was "ultimately avoidable by zimmerman".
 
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