Total Noob using teas and I am a believer

[Mad Hamish]

INSANELY good pictures here bro! I need myself a macro tube... Most beautiful seedling pics ever, really showing them off very, very nicely mate. Really is some inspired photography, you must be loving that hobby too!
Those buds... Are unreal!
You got my attention with Kali Bubba. That's my two favourites together in one strain right there. REALLY hoping the LVBK is a true-to-breed Bubba nevermind all the letters added to it's acronym. The high on a Kali Bubba is going to be an exquisite and complex one. I'm picturing that super crystal clear Kali vibe hitting first, and the Bubba's muscle relaxing effect coming on strong later on. If you don't mind me saying so that would be the one that I'll be following as much as possible. One of the best and most logical crosses I've ever read about. If it turns into anything like the picture in my mind, it shall be the stuff of LEGENDS.

Really lush as usual, all the pics. I love seeing your plants. You're an ARTIST man. Absolute perfection.

I shall call you Guru from now on. This is how I want my plants and buds to look.

 

[mycomaster]

Well Mad Hamish has said it all. Great shots, and an eye for a good snap is quickly developing bro. I really like the detail shots of the seedlings, you never get to see that world down there very much. As far as the health of the plants, well they look amazing man. You're right about those wispy trichs that form early, but never get a head, they just always look like hairs or something. Your plants have alot of them, and they seem to be very much adapted to their growing conditions and happy. Hamish is completely correct about the Kali Bubba, what a strain that will be after the 12/12 flip. The racy high of the Kali, and the bulk, and vigor of the Bubble Gum will be epic to watch I'm sure. I think I'm more excited about the strains you have going, than the ones I'm growing, how did that happen? ha ha. Take it easy bro. Peace out.

 

[Steelheader3430]

I PM'd GandalfdaGreen with some plant issues (Hey Mr.) and wanted to follow up here as he advised. The plants are ak48 about 5 weeks old now. I had them in ff ocean forest and gave them ff grow big after overwatering. So the seaves were drooping, textured, and felt stiff. As he advised I put them in ff happy frog with mycos, and have been watering lightly. Here is his message. "Easy to fix. This is how you have to do this or you are in big trouble. I want you to go out and get Fox Farm Happy Frogt omorrow. Take those out of the FFOF tomorrow. It is too hot. Do not water these tonight. No more nutes. None at all. Water lightly tomorrow after transplanting. At the grow store I want you to buy some Mycos and Azos. Sprinkle into the transplant hole before you put plants in. I promise if you let them heal for 2-3 weeks and then transplant into a 50-50 mix of HF and OF you will be so happy and so will your plants. We will get that soil to be alive again. I think you should also buy a bag of earthworm castings. Mix 4 cups into the HF. From here on you may just use Big Bloom and sprinkle the EWC as a top dressing. The Mycos and Azos will get your soil to live and do the work for you. We will feed your soil a tsp of molasses every other week with the plain waterings." I havn't gotten the azos or ewc. The new growth is still clawing slightly and one still shows the dark green in the new growth as well. The first 2 pics are from 7-21, the next 1 is from 7-27 and the rest from 7-29. any thoughts as to how I'm doing? The new branches seem kinda droopy and flimsy. I'm guessing from transplanting...?? The soil in the root ball (which is ffof) stays moister than the new soil which feels dry. They both have strong roots. and are under a 1000 watt metal halide. Thanks for the invite Gandalf.

 

[Mad Hamish]

I PM'd GandalfdaGreen with some plant issues (Hey Mr.) and wanted to follow up here as he advised. The plants are ak48 about 5 weeks old now. I had them in ff ocean forest and gave them ff grow big after overwatering. So the seaves were drooping, textured, and felt stiff. As he advised I put them in ff happy frog with mycos, and have been watering lightly. Here is his message. "Easy to fix. This is how you have to do this or you are in big trouble. I want you to go out and get Fox Farm Happy Frogt omorrow. Take those out of the FFOF tomorrow. It is too hot. Do not water these tonight. No more nutes. None at all. Water lightly tomorrow after transplanting. At the grow store I want you to buy some Mycos and Azos. Sprinkle into the transplant hole before you put plants in. I promise if you let them heal for 2-3 weeks and then transplant into a 50-50 mix of HF and OF you will be so happy and so will your plants. We will get that soil to be alive again. I think you should also buy a bag of earthworm castings. Mix 4 cups into the HF. From here on you may just use Big Bloom and sprinkle the EWC as a top dressing. The Mycos and Azos will get your soil to live and do the work for you. We will feed your soil a tsp of molasses every other week with the plain waterings." I havn't gotten the azos or ewc. The new growth is still clawing slightly and one still shows the dark green in the new growth as well. The first 2 pics are from 7-21, the next 1 is from 7-27 and the rest from 7-29. View attachment 2758603View attachment 2758604View attachment 2758606View attachment 2758605View attachment 2758607View attachment 2758608any thoughts as to how I'm doing? The new branches seem kinda droopy and flimsy. I'm guessing from transplanting...?? The soil in the root ball (which is ffof) stays moister than the new soil which feels dry. They both have strong roots. and are under a 1000 watt metal halide. Thanks for the invite Gandalf.

If you put them on a heating mat for half a day it should even out the moisture content in the bags. A little bit of heat will up the humidity inside the medium and then also allow more H2O to evap off faster. It'll also cause tiny little 'cracks' sub-soil that'll help with aeration. If you want healthy plants, you've come to the right place

 

[Mad Hamish]

Guys I just went CLICK yesterday. Thinking about all of this stuff I now realise what my grandpa was doing in his garden. He was focusing on the microbes, the mycos. Old man was waaaaay ahead of his time, being a pro microbial gardener is also not something you expect from a Major in the defence forces lol...

So here's my 'Grandpa Style' soil I am preparing with all it's little bits. Preparing a fruit 'tea' (he used to have a bucket with peels and fruit cutoffs only), I only need very little of this. I have a bucket of compost tea brewing outside, about half filles with the South African version of alfalfa, not chopped. A few peels in there too, apple and orange peels. Just under 100ml of fish emulsion, and the cherry on top, some horse manure compost. It came from the bottom of a BIG pile, it had already gone orange, all you can smell on the stuff is the clear distinct smell of mycelium, nothing smells like mushrooms. So most of it is already composted and rich in all the good little bugs. My poppa used to mix by eye in a 15 litre bucket before topping with water so I did it exactly the same.

I will add some of both in around two weeks, the soil is busy cooking in a bucket already: A black silty loam mixed with a supercompost out of a friend's permaculture garden. I got 50 kilos of the stuff to test for FREE, so I'll be reviewing it for him before it actually goes commercial. It's basically straw and chicken shit, but it goes through a year-long fermentation and composting process, comes out with ZERO urea and it's surprisingly neutral, around 6.8. He's not letting go of his secrets guess that's very wise as a business owner. But he's into organics and grows heirlooms only, full botany degree so I trust him with my life when it comes to this stuff. I added 200ml of vermicompost to the water I used for wetting during the mix. Damn, what a smell. Oh and of course a bit of dolomite lime dust too, I intend this mix for mommies so they'll be sitting in it for quite some time. pH doesn't bug me much but I want to seriously avoid Mag issues...

After only 2 days of cooking, the soil also smells like MUSHROOMS already. By the time the 'booster teas' are mixed in it's going to be ALIVE in there Then another 2 weeks and ready to rock. I'm going to test it on a tomato seedling first as I always do...

 

[Mad Hamish]

... and I'm stitching up some old bubble bags as filters Should work a treat I think, just line a bigger bucket and tip it all in there and pull the screen back out.

 

[mycomaster]

Sounds like you have a lock on the organics Hamish. Your grandpa was an extremely smart man to have figured out decades ago, what we're just now getting good info on, and scientific proof and analysis. It was really the only way to garden back in the day though, they didn't have hydro shops with bottle nutes, you had to make your own. Too many people got lazy with the ease of being able to go out, and pick up some plant food that we lost alot of good info for a long time until quite recently I think. Great info is getting passed around now though, and the sky's the limit now that there's more people getting into organic cannabis for meds. It's a good time to be connected with cannabis I think, and the future holds a lot of potential as well now. Love your style Hamish, Lookin good bro. Peace out.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Hehehe, I have a one track mind, and right now I am riding the Organic Express This is AWESOME. Everything living and interacting. Having a real good time with it. I just met a little group of South African guerilla growers here on RIU. Making their first leap indoors and so far it looks like they're really gonna get into the organics also. Next few months are going to be FUN. I can finally actually speak to growers from my country (around here meeting up etc is a bit of a taboo, if you grow, nobody knows, NOBODY but your wife, and in some cases not even that). BADASS

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Hey guys. I used the teas last night on both the veggy crew and the bloom crew. Both crews look good. I transplanted the SunMaidens, Daybreakers, and Alexander Kushes last night into larger containers. I will veg them 2 more weeks and take clones and then put them into bloom. I am going to try using 3 gallon containers and bloom a little faster and a week younger. I am just switching things up to see how things go. I think it will be good for the testers too. The soil is so rich with amendments that I know the life/food is in there.

The testers are coming along nice. They are all growing at a good pace and look healthy. I am settling on 22/23 as my final germ rate. One Starlet Kush didn't show. I have her in the corner just in case.

I used the all purpose tea on the clones too. They look really nice too. I used a ppm of 350 with the teas. 1:4 tea to RO water. I will step up the ppm to double in 3 weeks when I tea them again. I have to admit that all this making my own soil and teas has really brought me much more in tune with the plants. I feel like I am doing them a favor by putting them into the best possible situation for them to flourish. I guess we will see in a few weeks as the progress.

My BHO stuff is getting here on Saturday and I can't wait. All of your posts about oils have made me so excited. I really like seeing how you guys do this. I bought a cheap rig at Badassglass.com. I am really happy with the way it looks and feels. You got start somewhere, right? I read over on Myco's thread about a nail breaking. I better get a spare.

http://www.badassglass.com/bent-neck-oil-rig-large.html

The teas you are working Hamish look sweet. I will be watching them and learning as you use them. I think it so cool that you have this craft to grow as your grandfather and father did. There is so much that one can do with these organic teas.

The Kali Bubba is the monster of the room. She is so healthy. I hope I get a nice phenotype. I will post some pictures of her soon. Gotta run.

I'll catch up with you all later.

 

[Steelheader3430]

I watered with molasses yesterday and they perked up for the first time since they were seedlings! Thanks Gandalf my girls have switched from survival mode to thrive mode. Here's a before an after. The wilting on the new growth (third pic) is on both plants. I'm not terribly concerned cause they are looking sooo much better. These are exciting times! Thanks GandalfdaGreen!

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Stay the course. No nutes until they are perfect, and that's coming.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Good morning everyone. Last nights dab show could not have been better. I am sold on the dab. I am going to be out of internet range until tomorrow afternoon. Parts of Maine still exist with poor hotspot reception. I hope you all have a great two days. Talk to you later.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Good morning everyone. Last nights dab show could not have been better. I am sold on the dab. I am going to be out of internet range until tomorrow afternoon. Parts of Maine still exist with poor hotspot reception. I hope you all have a great two days. Talk to you later.

Have an excellent weekend bro! Yeah the oil is amazing, I call it 'smokable prozac' sometimes because there is nothing in the world that takes every bit of tension out the mind like that stuff does. It cleans out little bits of stress you never knew you had

And how you enjoying that oil rig? I looked it up, looks like an AMAZING piece of glass work. VERY cool display-piece and I bet it smokes like a dream too!

 

[mycomaster]

That looks like a really nice piece bro. It should filter nice with the in-line perc that it has. I'm glad to hear you like the oil, looks like you have some for a little while. Your first batch looks to have been a doosey man, really good looking end product. Have fun on your excursion bro! enjoy the weekend folks. Peace out.

 

[Steelheader3430]

Stay the course. No nutes until they are perfect, and that's coming.

I'm gonna wait until they show needs I think. I'm gonna print out a picture list of leaves for reference.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

Hey guys. Here's an update of sorts. Things are going well in the flowering room and for the older veg crew. I have found one of the Alexander Kushes to be female and I think I have two SunMaidens that are female at this point. I will look much harder in a week. The Alex Kush that is female is my favorite plant in the older veg crew. On another note I had some ph and overwatering issue with the seedlings recently. I noticed that my two Vision seeds auto freebies were starting to yellow and their growth was stunting along with pronounced downward leaf curl. I jumped on the situation and added ewc as a top dressing to the FFLW they are in, and I also am adjusting the ph of the water going in. I doubt it very much that I will be using the Light Warrior any longer. I am so used to soils that adjust the ph from within that I fucked up and overlooked this. Thus my ph was off and combined with my overzealous watering that I am known for, I have some catching up to do. I am not freaking out as I know how to get out of this one. I must make a few points here:

1. Always use a clear plastic cup to germinate so you can watch whats up in the cup. Myco I am sorry for not listening on this point.

2. Begin your germinations with Happy Frog soil or the like and make sure you can treat the soil as if it does not require ph adjusting.

3. Always grow one auto with your crop. If anything it will show problems well ahead of the "normal" plants you are growing due to the pace at which autos grow.

I will always grow with an auto for this reason. I know it sounds weird but I am convinced.

Here is another lesson that I learned the past two weeks. If your gut tells you something is wrong then something is probably wrong. I posted up a few seedling pictures recently that showed one or two of the seedlings having a rough textured surface. I knew something was odd at that point but I was not sure what it was. Look at posts 132 and 137.

https://www.rollitup.org/organics/676040-total-noob-using-teas-i-14.html

Now we are about 10 days into this. Like I said it is primarily ph and overwatering issues. I am humbled once again. I would get the young ones out and into the TLO mellow mix right now but I don't want to risk the roots tearing. I'll see how things progress. Here are a few shots of a few seedlings. These are the worse.

The last two shot were from yesterdays 2 small blasts. Wow. It was all fun and games until this.

I am glad I posting this situation up. I have heard of others having trouble with light warrior before. I think it is a great starter soil if you make sure you ph your water. I am 100% at fault for not doing so. I was getting a little too comfortable with the whole not phing thing. Take a look and let me know what your thoughts are. They are enjoying and nice breeze filled sunny day on the coast today. I was thinking it would do them some good. Take care guys.

The plants were watered last night for the first time in three days. I won't be watering again until Thursday.

 

[NoSwagBag]

So now we know where you're hiding when not in the Maine section. Your crops, finished and unfinished, are looking stellar.

 

[GandalfdaGreen]

I am really glad to see you here. I would love to see you here and for you to pass on some wisdom.

 

[mycomaster]

It looks like you caught any problems pretty quick, and they look to be on the rebound. Seedlings are like babies, and are so fussy sometimes, LOL. It's good to hear about all the ladies you're getting, sounds like a good ratio so far. From everything I've read the Alex Kush is a good one to be going female for you. I think I'll be starting some seeds soon, maybe in the next few weeks or so. Gotta keep the ladies as perpetual as possible, and keep the meds coming in. The last plant I put in my flower tent was the Green Poison, and she's stretched about 6-7 inches easy. It's alot of fun to watch your plants develop, and mature for you. Lookin good bro, have a great day. Peace out.

 

[Illegal Wonder]

Gand, inbox is full bro...