1550 watts of cfl s

bobtokes

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nickfury510 gethigheveryday is doing something very right to produce plants of the quality he has grown ive looked at his thread the pics speak for themselves.
how does your electricity bill look after 6 weeks on a 400w hps ?
 

nickfury510

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nickfury510 gethigheveryday is doing something very right to produce plants of the quality he has grown ive looked at his thread the pics speak for themselves.
how does your electricity bill look after 6 weeks on a 400w hps ?
let me put it this way...i used the cfls for my house lights and hps for a grow light.....the bill went down.....you guys have been brought the info..if you still want to grow inefficient and have small popcorn buds keep up with the cfls..if you want to get the most for your money and time, and grow super heavy dense buds...get yourself some hids....period....there is no excuse to be using cfls when you are using 70w or more.........cfls are for clones and mothers......
 

homegrownboy

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I think for some of us...using cfl's DURING veg have had great results with growing a very nice plant(s). But nothing for now will ever do better then an HPS during flowering.
 

LemonHerb

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I think you can veg under CFL very well and with less wattage them most people here suggest, but I think flowering is a differnt story. Here are a couple pictures of my bath room where I do my vegging, there are only 3 marijuana plants there, then a ton of flowers and vegetables. Some of it has been there for 6 weeks some of it has been there for 2 weeks. The weed has been there for 5 weeks right now, neesd to be transplanted again but I am waiting until I get my HPS and then I will move them to flowering too.

For my vegging I am using 2 2ft and 1 4ft T5s and 2 30w CFLs that push 2000 lumen.

Also, I threw in a couple bud pics, day 35 of flowering under CFL.
 

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LemonHerb

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I think for some of us...using cfl's DURING veg have had great results with growing a very nice plant(s). But nothing for now will ever do better then an HPS during flowering.
Save for the sun... plus saying nothing will ever beat HPS for flowering is stupid, eventually something will beat HPS, then something will beat that, and so on.
 

bobtokes

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let me put it this way...i used the cfls for my house lights and hps for a grow light.....the bill went down.....you guys have been brought the info..if you still want to grow inefficient and have small popcorn buds keep up with the cfls..if you want to get the most for your money and time, and grow super heavy dense buds...get yourself some hids....period....there is no excuse to be using cfls when you are using 70w or more.........cfls are for clones and mothers......
fair play to ya nickfuryi think what u have said along with afew other guys sums things up more or less cfl s have there uses but hps lites are worth the extra juice come harvest time.
having said that cfl s in the right hands can work well with alot of effort.
ive been a landscape gardener for 23 years and i know for a plant to thrive it needs the right lite soil conditions ph drainage nutes u can compremise on 1 or 2 of these things but not all if u want a reasonable plant as cfls are not the best lite sorce some of the cfl growers are getting every thing else right ive seen the results.
 

jeff3dfx

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bobtokes, the good news is that those cfls will actually come into play nicely, what i suggest you do is use the cfl for vegging dont invest dis out more cash for extra cfls, instead do what nick did and replace the lights around your home with the cfls when your finished vegging and throw down 120-150 for a hps light, i dunno about you but i spend 120 bucks on herb pretty quickly and if you invest smartly your going to get a whole lot more then 120 bucks worth of pot with no spike in your electricity bill :)
 

bobtokes

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bobtokes, the good news is that those cfls will actually come into play nicely, what i suggest you do is use the cfl for vegging dont invest dis out more cash for extra cfls, instead do what nick did and replace the lights around your home with the cfls when your finished vegging and throw down 120-150 for a hps light, i dunno about you but i spend 120 bucks on herb pretty quickly and if you invest smartly your going to get a whole lot more then 120 bucks worth of pot with no spike in your electricity bill :)
why would i replace the 60 & 100w incandesant bulbs in my home with 125w & 200w cfls that would use twice the electric.
come on chap pay attention haha
 

FullMetalJacket

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I actually dont like cfl's in my house, i changed all mine back to incad. They like throw certain colors off, which is a shame because they do conserve a ton of energy.
 

bobtokes

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I actually dont like cfl's in my house, i changed all mine back to incad. They like throw certain colors off, which is a shame because they do conserve a ton of energy.
its not a bad idea changing the incads for cfls {around 20 watts} all my lights have coloured shades that might work for you.
 

Al B. Fuct

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I'm not fond of CFLs for household lighting myself- I also don't like the colour- but I do use them in several places where that's not such a big issue, such as the front porch light. Many of my interior household lights run on dimmers, which won't work with CFLs.

If you go to certain heroics as some CFL evangelists have described (eg moving lights about daily, multiple lights per plant etc), you can do some limited cannabis growing with CFLs, but the result per watt of power used never will meet the overall yield and density you get from HPS.

Compared on watts per lumen, HPS is cheaper to buy, cheaper to run and gives you better buds. $119 for a complete 400HPS system from HTG. No freaking brainer.
 

rocksredsox@yahoo.com

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OK, say you buy 15 CFLs at $4.00/ea. $60. You've surely got $5 per lamp in a fixture or socket. Sum $135.

Your 27W flos deliver a sum total of 1300 lumens- for all of them. Light at 1300lm will cause spindly growth in veg and thin, fluffy buds in flower.

HTG is a popular online supplier. You can get a 400HPS lamp tube, ballast, socket & reflector from them for $119.

The 1300lm from the 15 x 27W CFLs will require 405 watts. A 400 HPS will deliver about 55,000 lumens and will draw about 450-460W from the wall socket. The operating cost will be nearly identical. A 400HPS will produce solid, dense, heavy buds. A 400 can easily punch out 3-4oz every 2 weeks in a rotating SoG op.

CFLs are false economy. Poorer results for more money.
should i get growbright 400w MH conversion bulb ??
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
I use a 400HPS for vegging my mums, have for some years. I tried a "400W" (actually closer to 360W) MH conversion lamp for a month. Just didn't get the growth needed to support the 30 cuttings per each 2 weeks. Results could be different with a MH in an MH ballast.

HPS when used in veg does cause some elongation compared to MH, but since I run a SoG op where there's zero veg time given to clones once they've set root, I WANT tall clones.

If you are running a 'bushy' plant grow, where you veg your clones for some significant period of time before flowering, you'll probably want a MH to keep them shorter.

Short plants are the indoor grower's friend. Excessively tall plants will produce poorly down low on the plant when flowering with any indoor lighting, even the mighty 1000HPS. SoG is a system designed to suit the plants to the limited penetration of indoor light, mainly by eliminating veg time given to clones post setting root.
 

SomeGuy

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Compared on watts per lumen, HPS is cheaper to buy, cheaper to run and gives you better buds. $119 for a complete 400HPS system from HTG. No freaking brainer.
I must agree. 120$ aint shit to throw down on a quality grow. Ventilating a 400w hps is not that hard either. What would you spend if you were to go out and buy one ounce of bomb shit? 300-400 bones I imagine. One 400w hps can grow you 5+ ounces easy. You have to spend money to grow properly. I cut corners on clone and mother light. right now Im using t-8 fluros and the speed and product from them is great (for my purposes). I would NEVER use them for flowering a serious grow. I have experimented with flowering under tubes and cfl and the results pale in comparison to hps.

OH.. and for those that think watts does not = heat you must not have ever taken math or basic electronics. 1 watt of power is 1 watt of power regardless of how you try to justify the way you think about it.

Those of you who think watts does not = heat read this and then try and argue.
Heat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ohm's Law Calculators
 

BigBudBalls

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$120 for a 'real' HPS for a closet grow isn't $120. (for a room, it can work with little issue)

400W in a closet (a lot of us are in that category) is a lot of heat.
The $120 400W HPS is a bat wing.

For a closet grow, a air-cooled hood with duct and fan, is closer to $350.

I must agree. 120$ aint shit to throw down on a quality grow. Ventilating a 400w hps is not that hard either. What would you spend if you were to go out and buy one ounce of bomb shit? 300-400 bones I imagine. One 400w hps can grow you 5+ ounces easy. You have to spend money to grow properly. I cut corners on clone and mother light. right now Im using t-8 fluros and the speed and product from them is great (for my purposes). I would NEVER use them for flowering a serious grow. I have experimented with flowering under tubes and cfl and the results pale in comparison to hps.

OH.. and for those that think watts does not = heat you must not have ever taken math or basic electronics. 1 watt of power is 1 watt of power regardless of how you try to justify the way you think about it.

Those of you who think watts does not = heat read this and then try and argue.
Heat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ohm's Law Calculators
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Well, it's a bit simple to say that watts = heat, while that's true in a general sense.

Your light draws a certain number of watts of electrical energy from the AC mains. Some of that is converted into light energy, some is wasted as heat from various loss points such as the ballasts in fluoro or HID lights.

At the end of the day, it's apples and oranges. You simply cannot compare fluoros to HID because there's no such thing as a fluoro with similar luminous output to an HID. Fluoros deliver low intensity light, which produces thin, fluffy buds.

It's too cheap to just do it right from the get-go. Life's too short to grow crappy dope. :lol:
 
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