kushdankenstock
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lol so how do you like the secret sour?
Skunk?
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aknight3
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i disagree that it is a 'lost' strain....this is a big big big huge world....somewhere out there whether it be in the deep depths of a jungle or forest or on some mystical tropical island far far away in never-land....the true skunk does still live...reason being is genetics...evolution made it that real skunky ass shit for a reason and something like that would not be evolved out of existence....so while it may be rare and maybe even a rare pheno within a rare strain within a rare seed....IT IS still out there...it would just have to be bred out to get your desired traits back from so long ago.....i promise 
im not canna expert but ive been breeding long enough to at least think i maybe know 
then again,its just my 2 pennies
either way
im not canna expert but ive been breeding long enough to at least think i maybe know then again,its just my 2 pennies
either way
jimdandy
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If I'm wrong I apologize up front. But I have heard that breeders actually tried to breed out that extreme odor. I can see this being true. For those who have experienced the skunk being mentioned, imagine trying to contain that smell in a large grow! You would draw so much attention to yourself that nothing good could come out of it. Hell I'm a closet grower with 1 or 2 plants and I damn sure can't be giving off too much odor. I believe odor not controlled will get you caught up quicker than anything else. Not trying to go on a ramble, but I hope my point is made. Remember, just my opinion and I could be wrong.
Jogro
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I think this is correct.
The "roadkill skunk" didn't disappear because it was popular. It disappeared because in the era of clandestine indoor growing, massive skunk-reeking strains were a major liability.
Breeders (including Sam the Skunkman, originator of Skunk #1) deliberately bred out the skunky odor in newer "sweet" skunk lines.
Since nowadays there are strains just as potent and/or high yielding with more agreeable odors and flavors, there is simply no reason for most people to be growing super-skunky strains, and that's why these are hard to find. Are they out there? Of course. . .if you actually WANT stinky strains, and do your homework you can find them. . .just most growers don't.
Belle of Buds
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I am by no means an expert or even connisseur, but I am growing Bubba 76 again because every time I opened my stash jar a little bit, everyone around me started looking for the skunk. In this area, a skunk in your yard in common place so I could get by with the smell by just smiling. I LOVE skunk smell.. both weed and the little furry ones.
Stickslivin
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oh man, around 97' I got some skunk bud from a colledge kid. it was just one nugg. and smelled like wet skunk all the way home. I broke the bud in half and it looked like a crystal cavern. I will never forget the amazing smell or euphoric high we got. (me and my bro). I never was able get that again. but unforgettable. I am growing a lemon skunk right now. it was my first plant I started with. and will be my first harvested plant in 10 days........yeeeehaaa I love me some skunk
Belle of Buds
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oooo Lemon Skunk is a particular favorite of mine. Good luck with the harvest! Got pics? Feel free to post them in my thread if you want. (Link in signature). I'd love to see it!
kona gold
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I tend to buy this theroy as well, but maybe for some different reasons as well.
One possibility is that when the skunk made it to Holland, the Dutch like to smoke tobacco with their weed, and maybe the skunk flavor does not mix well with the sweeter tobacco?
Second possibility is that along time before it went to Holland it was bred out in the US. Reason i say this is cause i read sometime in the late 70's early 80's some hippies got ahold of a pheno of skunk#1 in cali called "cherry blossom" and it seemed to be extremely popular so maybe that was the pheno they started to breed for.
Thirdly....in the generations of a certain breeding project...one generation of seeds came out to be the skunk#1, then future breeding in this line changed the strain, and sweeter ones were further generations....something like the first cross of haze was different that the later bred hazes.
In another note.....just because a strain smells skunky or even super sknky it is probably not the real skunk#1. I had run a strain called m-39 about )4 years ago....and it was just as skunky as any skunk#1 ever was, but it didn't have that skunk#1 flavor or HIGH. It tasted more piney/skunk, not sour skunk!
Besides it was not just the stank that made that strain.....it was the wonderful effects.......super high happy chinese eye, and it lasted many hours.....just like the smell did on you after smoking a joint!
I believe it's still out there.....but only most likely a small time grower/breeder, or some strain hoarder.
That is why re-breeding this strain is not an easy task.....like taking the "oure" from the dutchman and crossing it with an afghani.
I think you have to find that generation that was combined into the skunk#1. Which i believe lies in the columbian gold x acapulco gold.....then outcrossing it to an original super skunky afghani. Not just one of todays seed bank afghani's but a real old gem.
If you look at the original skunk#1 this makes sense.......cause the HIGH was mainly sativa with an indica end to it. You would be statospherically high for the forst few hours....then you would get the munchies and usually pass out. Classic sativa dom effects.
That's my take anyway......but i maybe not even be close....but that's what i've come up with so far.
Jogro
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Of course not.
There are a lot of skunky strains out there, the landrace afghanis in particular are known for this, and its almost certainly the case that the "skunk" odor associated with the strain of that name comes from the afghani parent used in hybridizing with Columbian and Acapulco Gold.
In my experience, most of the fast growing indica strains will smell skunky in VEG, though the flowering scent is usually different.
Interesting. The name M39 comes from the late 1980s Super Sativa Seed Club (SSSC) catalog number. (For example Williams Wonder is M31, Skunk #1 was M10, and Afghan #1 was M9).
M39 is Skunk #1 x "Basic 5". This older Skunk #1 was almost certainly of the "roadkill" type. Basic 5 is an old school "Northern lights", named as such before the Northern lights name caught on.
So your description seems perfect. This strain "should" be skunky with pine overtones. Obviously SK#1 x NL is an old standby and a lot of other breeder offer versions of it. For example Sensi's "Shiva Skunk" is basically this, and interestingly Sensi is the linear descendent of the SSSC (after many years and at least 1-2 ownership changes).
kona gold
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.........side note!
The closest i've come to the original skunk#1, that's what it was called back in the day, is the original diesel, not that sour d, but the real deal diesel. It had almost the same flavor, and high. Even the buds where long and army green colored.
I think the lineage of diesel is mexican(acapulco gold?) x afghani.
Also what ever happened to the person or people who originated the chem/dawg strains? I mean chemdawg only had a couple of beans.....who has the original, and how much more chronic would it be.
Second note.....sorry for rambling.....but why do people associate Kyle Kushman as the breeder of strawberry cough? It was from his friend who crossed a strawberry fields withsome haze variety. Then Kyle claims like it's his and the breeder just got lucky or something so he taxed the strain and doesn't even give the guy props........never liked Kyle anyway though he is a posing scrub that got everything from others.
The closest i've come to the original skunk#1, that's what it was called back in the day, is the original diesel, not that sour d, but the real deal diesel. It had almost the same flavor, and high. Even the buds where long and army green colored.
I think the lineage of diesel is mexican(acapulco gold?) x afghani.
Also what ever happened to the person or people who originated the chem/dawg strains? I mean chemdawg only had a couple of beans.....who has the original, and how much more chronic would it be.
Second note.....sorry for rambling.....but why do people associate Kyle Kushman as the breeder of strawberry cough? It was from his friend who crossed a strawberry fields withsome haze variety. Then Kyle claims like it's his and the breeder just got lucky or something so he taxed the strain and doesn't even give the guy props........never liked Kyle anyway though he is a posing scrub that got everything from others.
kona gold
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Your on the ball again JOGROW with your lineage.......but i think as well, that the skunk was more of the roadkill in the m-39 than what you would probably find in the other shunk#1 x nothern lights #5.
So, like you, i was always interested in finding the original Williams Wonde, and got some just popped up yesterday....all ten beans vigoriously sprouted. So when i was parousing your grow report.....it seemed like you only started a couple beanz....is that correct? Do you think you found a good pheno....cause i remember that stuff was strong!
Jogro
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I'm sure it is.
I'm going to cross post your question and my answer to the Williams Wonder grow report, because I think it makes more sense there:
Direct link here: https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/585422-sickmeds-williams-wonder-grow-journal-5.html#post9462588
Bottom line, all the plants I've grown of these have been similar and good. Pheno variation is absolutely minimal.
Organix420
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I'm like everyone else in this thread. I had experienced the "roadkill skunk" back in the 90's and ever since I've been on the look out but haven't been able to get my hands on any. Fast-forward to today I've now started growing and was able to get some sensi seeds super skunk and seedsman original skunk #1 from attitude. I'm not sure if either one of these is going to compare to the "roadkill" stuff but I will keep everyone posted.... I actually found this thread because I'm having some issues with my skunk #1 I think it's some kind of chemical burn but am not 100%; I'm also thinking that it could be some genetic defect that's why I was searching for skunk threads. Here is a picture of the effects I've been seeing: light green center of leaves, turned up tips, small holes on some of the leaves (I'm pretty sure that it's not bugs because I'm not having any issues with the other plants). Also, I've been able to clone the super skunk but the skunk #1 clones never take?
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thump easy
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i have an albert walker strain and it fucken stinks like dead rotting skunk i dont think this is desirable the only reason i have it is its rare.. ill post a pic and it over powers the room just two baby plants fucken horid,, i didnt realy think people like that smell??? ill come back and post i just sat down to drink my coffee let me get into the mood and ill post a pick you can google it!! i just read about the walker and to my supprise know i know why its right on the money ass far as smell and look also on a another websight i had a few people trying to get it from me i didnt realize or take my budies word for it that it was rare i had people from washinton oregona and northern cal... that were willing to take the drive i didnt know people like that fucken smell it gives me a head acke.. ow buy the way albert walker is a skunk cross, i have ran a few skunks they smell sweet and when i ran the albert walker i had no fucken clue what nasty pungent stintch that would realy fucken be litteraly i can not imfasize enough it stink horid!!!!
thump easy
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organix you need to foliar feed and check ph and check ppm and also run a flush to get out what ever is causeing the light color also feed once flush with water check run off to see whats happening....
Organix420
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Thanks for the reply thump easy - I did a foliar feed of just water and epsom salt(1tsp per gallon) as well as a couple watering of the epsom mix. I also tried a compost tea of N rich bat guano and although the original skunk #1 got a boost of growth I am still seeing those small burns. I'm wondering if my super soil mix might be the cause of the problems but my super skunk is thriving in the soil. FYI - I'm using organics; super soil with compost teas my water ph is 6.5
OGEvilgenius
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Hold it too tight and it might not for long.
thump easy
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i realy dont like that smell it gives me a head ack for realz.. i dont see how people like it.. its overpowering in the wrong way its smells like road kill no way man my budies like it i fucken hate it!!! it hurt to smell for to long its over powering!!!