To openly defy an unjust prohibition.

Nutes and Nugs

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Don't confuse forum banter with actual human behavior.... though yes this happens way too often and it needs to stop. Believe me when I tell you you can change these people. Set an example. Refuse to not be yourself... because the love you can share is worth way more than any insult can hurt you... or any difficulty you have persuading others views. Don't let down. Fight. Show how patriotic you are to your species. Show how much it means to you when someone doesn't have all the facts. Give them the information... or the tools to look it up... or the drive to look it up.... let them form an opinion from there. Then talk about their opinion... see their perspective.... show them yours.... go from there. I promise you it will make a difference in their lives. You can change the world... you can. Person by person... exponentially expanding throughout the ages... preach love preach acceptance preach freedom... dont force it.... preach it. Show how strongly you care about what you believe in... be able to speak off the top of your head.... fluently... intelligently... show them that you believe in your opinion even though you know more information than they do. Be able to debate any point at any time. Be able to do it with a level head with respect for the other opinion and the other person.
Alrighty then.
Just keep posting in the politics section and you will meet a lot of wonderful, influenceable and intellectual people.
 

spandy

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They simply do their job which is to execute the enforcement of the laws on the books. If skittles were made illegal tomorrow they would bust you for possession of skittles.

If pot was legal tomorrow they would no longer arrest or harass people for smoking pot.

I am referring to the 95% of normal cops. Every group has it's nutballs.
95% of the normal cops?

Yeah, if you took the 10% who aren't complete pieces of shit and then derived your 95% from that group maybe.

And over night we would all be asked if we had any crack in the car, instead. Oh shit, how'd that dog alert? No matter, because they are in your car tearing it apart the same as they were yesterday.
 

NLXSK1

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95% of the normal cops?

Yeah, if you took the 10% who aren't complete pieces of shit and then derived your 95% from that group maybe.

And over night we would all be asked if we had any crack in the car, instead. Oh shit, how'd that dog alert? No matter, because they are in your car tearing it apart the same as they were yesterday.
Apparently getting rid of all cops would be the only solution to your problem.

I am focused on the larger picture, the people who make the laws that require cops to tear your car apart in the first place.

The people that make the laws are perfectly happy that you are diverted and focusing on the cops because then you are not focused on the real problem.
 

Bombur

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Apparently getting rid of all cops would be the only solution to your problem.

I am focused on the larger picture, the people who make the laws that require cops to tear your car apart in the first place.

The people that make the laws are perfectly happy that you are diverted and focusing on the cops because then you are not focused on the real problem.
Naw mang fuk da poleez!! Stop confusing me with your thinking... *puts fingers in ears*
 

Doer

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Don't confuse forum banter with actual human behavior.... though yes this happens way too often and it needs to stop. Believe me when I tell you you can change these people. Set an example. Refuse to not be yourself... because the love you can share is worth way more than any insult can hurt you... or any difficulty you have persuading others views. Don't let down. Fight. Show how patriotic you are to your species. Show how much it means to you when someone doesn't have all the facts. Give them the information... or the tools to look it up... or the drive to look it up.... let them form an opinion from there. Then talk about their opinion... see their perspective.... show them yours.... go from there. I promise you it will make a difference in their lives. You can change the world... you can. Person by person... exponentially expanding throughout the ages... preach love preach acceptance preach freedom... dont force it.... preach it. Show how strongly you care about what you believe in... be able to speak off the top of your head.... fluently... intelligently... show them that you believe in your opinion even though you know more information than they do. Be able to debate any point at any time. Be able to do it with a level head with respect for the other opinion and the other person.
We don't like no preachin' roun' cheer.

Who is them, you preach to. Who do you think you lord over?

And if this is your idea of evolution through the ages, it doesn't seem to be working, this preaching, does it?

We don' like no persusaudin' nor debatin' around wihen grown men and women are attempting, adult discussion.

Go find the Gaia Earth Mothers in the Spirit section for that.

Species Patriot? That is not working either.
 

abandonconflict

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The people that make the laws are perfectly happy that you are diverted and focusing on the cops because then you are not focused on the real problem.
So it is the bankers and politicians who throw tear gas at you and pepper spray faces when you protest?
 

Rob Roy

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They simply do their job which is to execute the enforcement of the laws on the books. If skittles were made illegal tomorrow they would bust you for possession of skittles.

If pot was legal tomorrow they would no longer arrest or harass people for smoking pot.

I am referring to the 95% of normal cops. Every group has it's nutballs.
...and if throwing babies in volcanoes was "their job" many of them would do it. The "it's my job" excuse is lame, very lame.
 

Rob Roy

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Did you miss the fact that they dont make the rules?

Law enforcement can only do what they have been told to do. They are not the problem, it is the legislators that are the issue.

They are part of the problem. Who is responsible for YOUR actions? You. Who is responsible for my actions? ME.
 

Rob Roy

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Apparently getting rid of all cops would be the only solution to your problem.

I am focused on the larger picture, the people who make the laws that require cops to tear your car apart in the first place.

The people that make the laws are perfectly happy that you are diverted and focusing on the cops because then you are not focused on the real problem.
Please stop defending cops. They can make choices to leave people alone.

Why don't more cops join LEAP? In some cases it's simply ignorance. In others it's cowardice. In many others it's both.

If for a moment we forgot that government is the monolithic monster it really is and we pretend there really is a separation of powers....Doesn't the Executive branch have the DEA under it's authority? The Executive branch (the one that cops report to) has the authority to reschedule Pot. Cops making law, or preventing a bad law from being overturned is happening right now.

Most local cops are mindless henchmen, like soldiers. They're wanting to believe that being obedient is a higher value than being compassionate. They are wrong.
 

NLXSK1

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Please stop defending cops. They can make choices to leave people alone.

Why don't more cops join LEAP? In some cases it's simply ignorance. In others it's cowardice. In many others it's both.

If for a moment we forgot that government is the monolithic monster it really is and we pretend there really is a separation of powers....Doesn't the Executive branch have the DEA under it's authority? The Executive branch (the one that cops report to) has the authority to reschedule Pot. Cops making law, or preventing a bad law from being overturned is happening right now.

Most local cops are mindless henchmen, like soldiers. They're wanting to believe that being obedient is a higher value than being compassionate. They are wrong.
If the cops pick and choose what laws to enforce they are just as guilty as Obama for doing the same thing. It is not their function to make choices like that, it is their job to carry out enforcement of the laws.

I am pointing out that being mad at cops and doing passive resistance actions against law enforcement is not the proper trajectory if you want the laws changed. The cops cannot change the laws and would be just as guilty if they ignored them.

If you get hit with a stick are you mad at the stick or the man wielding it? The cops are the stick...
 

spandy

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The bigger picture is not the people who make law. It's the absurdity that there are so many willing to mindlessly enforce those laws.

Politicians do not fight wars, soldiers do.
 

Doer

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Please stop defending cops. They can make choices to leave people alone.

Why don't more cops join LEAP? In some cases it's simply ignorance. In others it's cowardice. In many others it's both.

If for a moment we forgot that government is the monolithic monster it really is and we pretend there really is a separation of powers....Doesn't the Executive branch have the DEA under it's authority? The Executive branch (the one that cops report to) has the authority to reschedule Pot. Cops making law, or preventing a bad law from being overturned is happening right now.

Most local cops are mindless henchmen, like soldiers. They're wanting to believe that being obedient is a higher value than being compassionate. They are wrong.
You don't know a single local cop much less most in your town. You are so full of shit you are growing a hairsuite.

These are citizens to protect us from you. Ever think that? We don't want you in charge of anything. You are not facing facts. I call that cowardly.
 

Doer

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The bigger picture is not the people who make law. It's the absurdity that there are so many willing to mindlessly enforce those laws.

Politicians do not fight wars, soldiers do.
All three are simply jobs in self rule and good jobs if you can qualify.

There is no mindlessness here. The entire thing is dreadfully mindful.
 

Rob Roy

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If the cops pick and choose what laws to enforce they are just as guilty as Obama for doing the same thing. It is not their function to make choices like that, it is their job to carry out enforcement of the laws.

I am pointing out that being mad at cops and doing passive resistance actions against law enforcement is not the proper trajectory if you want the laws changed. The cops cannot change the laws and would be just as guilty if they ignored them.

If you get hit with a stick are you mad at the stick or the man wielding it? The cops are the stick...
Except a man that's a cop although often dumb as a stick, can and SHOULD make better choices. After all a stick is an inanimate object, cops aren't.

Also, cops as a rule don't "defend" people's rights, they protect the people that pay them. They, like the people that pay them with stolen money have a mercenary self interest to continue doing what they do.

As far as changing laws, been there, done that. I own myself, you own you. ANY law to the contrary that any creature wants to legislate or enforce will be disobeyed, often.
Peace.
 

Rob Roy

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You don't know a single local cop much less most in your town. You are so full of shit you are growing a hairsuite.

These are citizens to protect us from you. Ever think that? We don't want you in charge of anything. You are not facing facts. I call that cowardly.

I don't normally recommend this, but you might be one of those people that should consider putting down the pipe.
 
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