To openly defy an unjust prohibition.

NLXSK1 said:
They simply do their job which is to execute the enforcement of the laws on the books. If skittles were made illegal tomorrow they would bust you for possession of skittles. If pot was legal tomorrow they would no longer arrest or harass people for smoking pot. I am referring to the 95% of normal cops. Every group has it's nutballs.
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Except RIU
 
NLXSK1 said:
Did you miss the fact that they dont make the rules? Law enforcement can only do what they have been told to do. They are not the problem, it is the legislators that are the issue.
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Being paid to do wrong doesn't make it anymore right. The guy who ran the gas chambers at Auschwitz claimed he was just following orders.
 
UncleBuck said:
i just flew without a hand being laid on me.
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I have never had or seen a single problem. And for a flying public that does millions of miles a month, there have only been a few instances of stupidity and a too much Fox News. I have had TSA bend over backwards for me and others to get us through the lines.

The reason we have zero tolerance is not the TSA, you know.

And I doubt that Bin L ever had a gentle cupping. He was likely bulldogged by his brothers his entire young life.
 
Red1966 said:
Being paid to do wrong doesn't make it anymore right. The guy who ran the gas chambers at Auschwitz claimed he was just following orders.
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And only a rank, smelly, rotten mind can compare the two.

They are not military in war. And if you even have a job, try to tell me you don't follow the directions of Mgt.

You would not work long for me. The guy in Russia I mentioned a few weeks back?

He is gone. He didn't think it could happen and it is difficult in Russia with the employee contracts. But, in the end I just moved his job to China. A Loophole.

You follow orders from somebody.
 
Doer said:
And only a rank, smelly, rotten mind can compare the two. They are not military in war. And if you even have a job, try to tell me you don't follow the directions of Mgt. You would not work long for me. The guy in Russia I mentioned a few weeks back? He is gone. He didn't think it could happen and it is difficult in Russia with the employee contracts. But, in the end I just moved his job to China. A Loophole. You follow orders from somebody.
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I don't harm others to make a buck (well, if there was enough bucks????) Actually, I do work for you. You pay taxes, don't you? Follow orders? Ha, I barely even show up!
 
Red1966 said:
I don't harm others to make a buck (well, if there was enough bucks????) Actually, I do work for you. You pay taxes, don't you? Follow orders? Ha, I barely even show up!
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I figured you for GSA or something. :) I barely show up, myself. But, I am not wasting tax payer money. Nice fail.

If you are in govt. Are you really a worker, by definition?
 
nontheist said:
I don't completely agree, I think over abundance of law enforcement officers in rural low populated area do cause a problem. They have nothing better to do than speed traps and harass people for petty shit.
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You nailed it, to many cops make the use of diplomacy not needed. When I was a trooper there was only two of us for area that covered four towns. We were forced to be diplomatic in how we conducted ourselves. That is no longer the case these days. We looked the other way on a lot of stuff that was a waste of time. Like pot, coke, having a beer while driving, ect.
 
I have to state we are not a democracy and don't want to be one. We were set up not to be. In fact the Founders were very specific. This is a balanced federal republic, in self rule at the county level. And though we all can vote for President in our States it is the States that pick the President.

Anyone that thinks this is a democracy.....well, that is just wild yeti thinking. Anyone thinks we are suppose to stand up to prove we are a democracy has already proved they are brain dead on the subject.

Pot law will not change because the counter culture mob-think minority democracy. Quite the opposite. This is what has screwed it up. Someone of no significance said, the problem with hippies is not the pot.

They deny us this with stupidity.
 
Doer said:
we are not a democracy and don't want to be one.
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Ironically democratic reasons for not wanting democracy.

POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
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Odd some people have no idea what democracy even it. And they don't realize it is the Press alone that calls this a democracy. It is a straw dog to piss on, is all.

If it was a democracy we would have national voting and we don't. The Press just harps on that. Every election, it is "why do we NEED the electoral college in a Democracy?"

Sophistry at its worst. Mind control.
 
Democracy = power to the people.

It was sophistry when you said "we don't want democracy". However, I agree that the US is not a democracy. I never called it one. That is just more of your sophistry. Seems like you just need a straw dog to piss on.
 
Doer said:
Odd some people have no idea what democracy even it. And they don't realize it is the Press alone that calls this a democracy. It is a straw dog to piss on, is all.

If it was a democracy we would have national voting and we don't. The Press just harps on that. Every election, it is "why do we NEED the electoral college in a Democracy?"

Sophistry at its worst. Mind control.
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We are a Republic because Plebicites fail and lead to civil wars
 
Doer said:
I have to state we are not a democracy and don't want to be one. We were set up not to be. In fact the Founders were very specific. This is a balanced federal republic, in self rule at the county level. And though we all can vote for President in our States it is the States that pick the President.

Anyone that thinks this is a democracy.....well, that is just wild yeti thinking. Anyone thinks we are suppose to stand up to prove we are a democracy has already proved they are brain dead on the subject.

Pot law will not change because the counter culture mob-think minority democracy. Quite the opposite. This is what has screwed it up. Someone of no significance said, the problem with hippies is not the pot.

They deny us this with stupidity.
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Preamble to Constitution
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Look closely at who ordained the Constitution. Look up each word in the dictionary if you must in order to know who ordained the constitution. Make sure you know what ordained means.

I'm not trying to be excessively rude (only a little bit) because idgaf bout some old rag ordained by dead people. Just understand, that democracy means power to the people. I posit that the founding fathers did intend for land owning white men to have democracy. You see, the word people (look up definitions)had a vernacular which allowed them to use the word democracy. They designed a society with socioeconomic lines parallel to ethnic lines. People are not property.

So in the sense of what democracy means, sure I can agree that the founders would have hated egalitarianism in any form. Notwithstanding, the language of the constitution describes democracy in more ways than it does not. Same kind of thing with Hitler calling his party socialist. There was nothing Hitler hated more than egalitarianism. The result is a corruption of language such that the concept of egalitarianism which is embedded in the words democracy and socialism, is alienated. It is all about getting people to hate egalitarianism so that they can believe that privilege and tyranny are intrinsic to human nature.
 
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