A tribute to Uncle Ben and the Almighty Leaf

[Samwell Seed Well]

So in other words, your reply was "it's a free country!"

I didn't know this web site was a country but if you mean im free to post then yes, I am

my interaction with UB is entirely based on how UB treats people , myself included . . i wasnt a nut hugger and he was pretty much an ass IMO

 

[Uncle Ben]

True. I still just don't get though why you guys are in THIS thread. The defoliation thread was understandable and what should happen when there's a topic of controversy. But this thread was a tribute to UB amd leaves. Nothing else. You guys followed him all the way to a thread having nothing to do with anything but that man and foliage to attack him and people that for their own reasons take a liking to him. Isn't that exactly what you seem to be complaining about? Not letting others choose what they decide to go with without being condescended?

Understand that these trolls are not important. RIU has set the standards of this site.

But, it's an issue of power, which I have over them. I own these trolls. They can not let it go.

UB

 

[thenotsoesoteric]

come on. ayn rand. eveverybody knows. nothing more than a cock loving day dreaming misanthrope of a whore.

a veritable dildo loving mind fuck fraud.

3rd eye = 3 holes

I'm with you. Funk Ayn Rand. Capitalist pseudo female. She had big hairies. Three holes, do I hear a shocker?

 

[Dboi87]

I didn't know this web site was a country but if you mean im free to post then yes, I am

my interaction with UB is entirely based on how UB treats people , myself included . . i wasnt a nut hugger and he was pretty much an ass IMO

First off you obviously know I wasn't calling this site a country and meant that you are free to speak your mind.

And second, why are seeming defensive? I mever said your response was wrong or had a problem with it.

I wonder if you guys all even smoke? (Meaning EVERYONE) weed never made me as angry and aggressive as you guys. (Not just you sam. The community as a whole)

Anyways, back to the topic of leaves... I've been able to keep my plants looking healthy for the most part but I decided to go vertical for this grow. I have 1 400 hung between my plants. Like I said the plants are for the most part green and healthy looking but in back of the plants furthest away from the lights leaves will wither and die off... is this some sort of reaction to insufficient light?

 

[PJ Diaz]

I've been able to keep my plants looking healthy for the most part but I decided to go vertical for this grow. I have 1 400 hung between my plants. Like I said the plants are for the most part green and healthy looking but in back of the plants furthest away from the lights leaves will wither and die off... is this some sort of reaction to insufficient light?

That conclusion would not fall in line with Uncle Ben's doctrine.

 

[Dboi87]

That conclusion would not fall in line with Uncle Ben's doctrine.

What doctrine would that be? Do you have one of your own?

 

[Uncle Ben]

what works best in your environment for your strains and goals is what is best, and we can only learn what works best for us by looking into as many techniques as possible . .

Hey ShamWow, you really got it going on!

Nutes-
Canna A/B, Cannaszym, Rizotonic, Bio Boost, Canna Boost, PK 13/14, H&G Drip clean

How much did you spend on that popcorn producing crap?

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13714-gs-lavender-x-hd-grow.html#comment26694

Hmmmmmmmm, must have been a bad batch of Canna boost....oh well.

UB

 

[PJ Diaz]

What doctrine would that be? Do you have one of your own?

The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. I don't believe in doctrines.

 

[patlpp]

coco - High p Dyna -

Too leggy for me. No more Dyna for me but purdy with that UB 4 cola auxin jibberdaddy thingy.
Wait , I'm supposed to be slamming UB.

UB: CoCo has come a long way. This puppy was grown in 3rd gen coco/plite. 10$ a key

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Hey ShamWow, you really got it going on!

How much did you spend on that popcorn producing crap?

https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog13714-gs-lavender-x-hd-grow.html#comment26694

Hmmmmmmmm, must have been a bad batch of Canna boost....oh well.

UB

in UB world one picture says it all . .

8 weeks later

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a plant i made by accident , ran from seed . . . . second time growing from seed

this is how i do, with my bad batches of canna

to the floor







oh and unlike you i change my recipe over time . . im not so egotistical to believe that a good thing cant be improved

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

wanna talk vert Db? been there, might go back

UB got nothing for you . . .but others will

 

[420circuit]

"fuck tard" Hope you don't mind if I use that. Great use of the language.

 

[lilroach]

12-1 gas lantern technique has no basis in botany-Uncle Ben

claims to have invented a topping technique that redistributes auxins from a main branch to lower branches through topping . . .. 1000's of years of agriculture and UB invented it

oh ya all products marketed to grow cannabis(a plant like any others ) are snake oils(except the products i promote markets for plants)-UB

I decided to check out your grow journals: https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/356687-samwell-seed-well.html

I won't make this personal........but you really really really should consider Uncle Ben's suggestions.

 

[Dboi87]

in UB world one picture says it all . .

8 weeks later

View attachment 2794708

a plant i made by accident , ran from seed . . . . second time growing from seed

this is how i do, with my bad batches of canna

to the floor







oh and unlike you i change my recipe over time . . im not so egotistical to believe that a good thing cant be improved

What strain was that?

 

[Dboi87]

wanna talk vert Db? been there, might go back

UB got nothing for you . . .but others will

My problem with vert has been plant lean. I either had to rotate them or eventually had to stake them up

 

[Rocketman64]

This thread has really disappointed me. I was hoping to get a few other members to acknowledge the fact that leaves mean the world to their plants. I was hoping for a couple posts discussing things they've tried or learned that helped them keep their leaves healthy. Maybe a few pics other members have taken of their leaves because there was something different about them would have been nice. Instead, I get 30+ pages of the most repulsive display of a penis-measuring contest that's ever been witnessed by this old hippy. The mods could remove 34 pages of this thread and we will have lost nothing. It sure seems like there's no shortage of people around here that could use a couple good bong hits before hitting the 'post' button. C'mon people, can we just cut the bullshit? If you grow your plants without leaves- fine! Go away! This thread is not for you! Go find somewhere else to spread your hate and combativeness.

 

[Rocketman64]

"fuck tard" Hope you don't mind if I use that. Great use of the language.

Fuck Tard is a good one...... I heard 'Fucktwit' the other day, it falls in the same category of Great Use of the Language. You have my permission...

 

[lilroach]

Here's some pics of what Uncle Ben has done for me:

I would have more pictures....but you see.....I'm a relative newbie and had wasted my time my first couple of grows using some of the crap from the hydro store.

These plants are directly attributed to the info I got from Uncle Ben.

 

[HeartlandHank]

A bit off topic but since it was brought up, what strains are good sativa strains and where could I get them? No one has given me any decent answers save for kitehigh once

This was the answer I gave... I didn't think it was too bad... you might of missed it. If you didn't like the answer though, no big deal..
It's hard to answer because with Sativas it all depends basically on how long of a flower period you want to deal with. With that number, I could prbly give a better answer.


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Dboi... I've grown some pretty good sativa leaning hybrids. There are many to choose from.

Short answer: Silver Fields or Sugar Punch - Sannies Shop

Long answer: The question to ask is... how many weeks of flowering are you willing to take on? There are options at any length.

I like to use seedfinder to check lineage and see what I am getting. You can just google "plant name seedfinder" example: Northern Lights seedfiner. click the link that is seedfinder.xxx.ccc it will break down the lineage for you.

There are lots of bad choices in the seed biz... waaay more than good choices. I suggest coming up with your choice and posting here. Someone will let you know if it is a bad choice. Some seedbanks are scams or known to be unreliable... some breeders are known to put out junk or problematic genetics. Many breeders are coming out with little rep and the verdict is still out on them. I like to stick with the proven breeders, but, avoid the old breeders who with an established name have little to prove.

Here are a few to look into...

7-9 wks - most any of the C99 plants. Apollo 11. Others, I forget. If you have the coin try out Dr Greenthumbs c99. His seeds are a little more expensive but I've been very impressed with the results from Dr GT. c99 is speedy. Speedy effects and speedy flowering. The fastest flowering sativa leaning plant you will find. Easy to grow.

10-11 wks - Silver Fields, Killing Fields - From SanniesShop. Great stuff... really great. I like Sannie too.. You can get on his forum (google it) and see people growing his seeds. There are a handful of active VERY good growers over there with REALLY nice cameras. Great people too. Sannie seems like very good people.

12-13 wks - Many Haze varieties... with killing fields and sugar punch, you'll prbly find one plant in the pack that takes 12-13 wks... Having haze in the name doesn't make it what I would call "haze". You can get hazes that flower in as little as 10 wks and beyond 14.

14+ - Jamaican Lambsbread - USC seeds on Sanniesshop.com... Never grown it but have smoked Columbian Gold and Lambsbread. This is a commitment, and a difficult one at that.. If you have not had 4-5 grows under your belt I would suggest putting a hold on this one. With 4-5 grows under your belt, be prepared for a challenge. And, lots of vertical space.

I would recommend Sannies Shop. I've grown the killing fields and love it. I've heard the Sugar punch is even better.. I believe it is basically Killing fields x Super silver haze. Those are two of my favorite sativa leaning plants.. I could only imagine (and have heard) the smoke is fantastic. If you made me give you one choice... I would say Sugar Punch. Super silver haze is fucking GREAT... but it's dependent on who you get it from. I got mine from Beanhoarder... his packs can be hit or miss. I searched through many plants to find my 2 keepers. With Sugar Punch... you can trust Sannies work... you get killing fields, which is fucking GREAT.. and, you get a good Super Silver Haze which is fucking great... I would go with that.

A common sativa that new folks seem to be pulled towards is Kali Mist. I would not recommend this pack. A partner grew it out and was quite disappointed. Also, I have seen many bad reviews... apparently, Kali Mist was reworked some years ago to make for shorter flower times and easier growth. The result was a plant that has little sativa-like effects.

 

[HeartlandHank]

coco - High p Dyna -

Too leggy for me. No more Dyna for me but purdy with that UB 4 cola auxin jibberdaddy thingy.
Wait , I'm supposed to be slamming UB.

UB: CoCo has come a long way. This puppy was grown in 3rd gen coco/plite. 10$ a key

Can you say that you really gave your best attempt at this?
If so... i'm pretty disappointed in you pat... i remembered you being a pretty good grower about a year or 2 ago.

It's not Dyna man.. I produced killer crops with Dyna while I was using it. From the first to the last.
I'll return at some point... just playing around with new stuff.

I actually use a small amount of Dyna still...Early in flower... it just performs. I'll do 2 or 3 dyna feeds per grow because I know that anytime I have a problem, I just feed with a good ph balanced Dyna solution and it fixes it every time. I always water in my transplants for flower (2/3 gal to 5 gal grow bag.. coco coir) with Dyna ,because it's just a damn good feed.

My very first 1 LB per 600 hps grow came from a Dyna Grow run. Everything was there. Dense, yield, taste and smell were no different then running Canna or H&G.

One thing I can say about Dyna that is not glowing.... Although I'm pretty sure it was a grower error (not sure what though, my guess, overfed using at 1/2 strength, never recovered quite right) .. I did not do well with Dyna Grow when growing haze and some other sativa varieties...

Both my SSH plants did TERRIBLE with Dyna Grow... my buddy who grows my genetics too said the same thing.. 9 wk Super Silver Haze did not perform using Dyna. My 14 wk SSH also did poorly. Sannies Killing Fields didn't do as poorly as SSH's did, but, not well.

I never used the high P food all the way through though. It seems like common knowledge around RIU that it's not a good nute to use exclusively during flower. Someone as experienced with nutes as yourself, and active on RIU as yourself... doing a whole Dyna Bloom grow makes me suspect a strong bias, with no real intentions to succeed in the first place. Just my opinion.