Earth Gains A Record Amount Of Sea Ice In 2013

[Dr Kynes]

Say it again keynes

you really are not coming off as the good guy here.

youre even starting to sound like bucky and abandon conflict.

whats next? redefining easily verifiable words in the most preposterous manner possible?

i think somebody has tampered with your weed.

 

[ginjawarrior]

im not the one who implied that the arctic ocean was somehow landlocked, and then doubled down on the assertion...

it''s really not my fault that particular man (constructed SOLELY by you), was made of straw.

i just happened to be Huffing and Puffing (as stoners are wont to do) in the vicinity of his Chinny Chin Chin...

Your reading comprehension is really really bad...

the artic ocean is (mostly) enclosed

I did not say land locked, I did not say it was inaccessible to ships, I made sure to add a qualifier in there

Here it is again in case you missed it the first time

the artic ocean is (mostly) enclosed

I realise you struggle with your words but it is clear for everybody else

 

[ginjawarrior]

redefining easily verifiable words in the most preposterous manner possible?

.

That's your playbook not mine

 

[ginjawarrior]

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mostly
[h=2]most·ly[/h] adverb \ˈmōst-lē\—used to say that a statement you are making is true or correct at most times or that it describes a usual situation or condition
: almost all or almost completely










[h=2]Full Definition of MOSTLY[/h]: for the greatest part : mainly

 

[Dr Kynes]

Your reading comprehension is really really bad...


I did not say land locked, I did not say it was inaccessible to ships, I made sure to add a qualifier in there

Here it is again in case you missed it the first time




I realise you struggle with your words but it is clear for everybody else

the med is "Mostly Enclosed". the red sea is "Mostly Enclosed" the Black Sea id "Mostly Enclosed" the Dead Sea is Fully Enclosed, but just like the indian ocean, the sea of japan, the bo hai sea, and several other "seas" , the arctic is NOT constrained.

it is contiguous with the atlantic and the pacific, which are only really seperate seas based upon the fact that you cant easily sail from one to the other without taking the straits of magellan, the panama canal, or the Northwest passage (when available)

transiting from the Arctic Sea to the Bering sea is a transition which can only be found on charts, just as the imaginary separation of the Bering from the North Pacific, the PacificOcean and the Indian Ocean and the North pacific from the south. without GPS or careful charting a sailor cannot actually say which sea he currently is in, when he approaches any of these "barriers"

these distictions are just lines on a map

 

[ginjawarrior]

the med is "Mostly Enclosed". the red sea is "Mostly Enclosed" the Black Sea id "Mostly Enclosed" the Dead Sea is Fully Enclosed, but just like the indian ocean, the sea of japan, the bo hai sea, and several other "seas" , the arctic is NOT constrained.

it is contiguous with the atlantic and the pacific, which are only really seperate seas based upon the fact that you cant easily sail from one to the other without taking the straits of magellan, the panama canal, or the Northwest passage (when available)

transiting from the Arctic Sea to the Bering sea is a transition which can only be found on charts, just as the imaginary separation of the Bering from the North Pacific, the PacificOcean and the Indian Ocean and the North pacific from the south. without GPS or careful charting a sailor cannot actually say which sea he currently is in, when he approaches any of these "barriers"

these distictions are just lines on a map

All strawmans completely irrelevant to my point about artic ice area

You mentioned something about doubling down a couple of posts back, how many words/paragraphs/posts have you now done in defense of your straw man/ lack of first grade reading comprehension.....


Here it is again (as you still haven't worked it out)

the artic ocean is (mostly) enclosed

Note I didn't mention the med, black or red sea or Atlantic or Pacific or anything else

Double on down dick

 

[Dr Kynes]

All strawmans completely irrelevant to my point about artic ice area

You mentioned something about doubling down a couple of posts back, how many words/paragraphs/posts have you now done in defense of your straw man/ lack of first grade reading comprehension.....


Here it is again (as you still haven't worked it out)

the artic ocean is (mostly) enclosed

Note I didn't mention the med, black or red sea or Atlantic or Pacific or anything else

Double on down dick

just to refresh your memory:

Hmmm arbitary lines on the map? Or the Russian continent, north American continent and Greenland?
Care to show how artic ocean joins onto the Indian ocean? Which arbitrary lines on map does it need to step over?

There is only so much area for ice to fill right?

Obviously if that area is full it cannot increase in area as there is land in the way (remember I said mostly)

So for artic sea ice to cover 60% more area (I think it was 60) then it has to be covering area thAt previously melted

wow. without that huge picture in the middle, the statement seems even more absurd.

imma just let that sit there and percolate for a while...

...And contemplate the noise my boats keel makes when it crosses the totally not arbitrary line between the Indian ocean and the Pacific Ocean. or the similar totally real barrier between the Pacific and the Bering, and the totally impassible one between the Bering and the Arctic Sea.

 

[UncleBuck]

it's funny to watch kynes' delusions fight against reality.

way more entertaining than anything NLXSK1 puts out, or muyloco. that's just sad.

with kynes, he really believes it and dedicates. makes it so much funnier.

 

[ginjawarrior]

just to refresh your memory:



wow. without that huge picture in the middle, the statement seems even more absurd.

imma just let that sit there and percolate for a while...

...And contemplate the noise my boats keel makes when it crosses the totally not arbitrary line between the Indian ocean and the Pacific Ocean. or the similar totally real barrier between the Pacific and the Bering, and the totally impassible one between the Bering and the Arctic Sea.

I whole hearted stand by that map as it clearly shows the artic sea is (mostly) enclosed by Russia, Canada, Greenland.

What were you saying about redefining words?

I would love to see your dictionaries meaning of "mostly" and "enclosed" you know just to see the part where it mentions submarines...

 

[ginjawarrior]

it's funny to watch kynes' delusions fight against reality.

way more entertaining than anything NLXSK1 puts out, or muyloco. that's just sad.

with kynes, he really believes it and dedicates. makes it so much funnier.

When he gets like this I like to try to get as many paragraphs as I can out of him with the minimal amount of words from me

I wish I'd kept a note of it but I swear I got a good few paragraphs once with just "no. 10 characters"

Next time I'll bookmark it

 

[ginjawarrior]

I wonder what the (mostly) enclosed artic ocean looks like with ice(1980)...

As you can see both the Bering and fram straights are totally open and not at all bottlenecked up with ice

Oh wait what's going wrong Keynes? I thought you said there's free passage for ice all the way to Indian ocean

 

[Dr Kynes]

I wonder what the (mostly) enclosed artic ocean looks like with ice(1980)...

As you can see both the Bering and fram straights are totally open and not at all bottlenecked up with ice

Oh wait what's going wrong Keynes? I thought you said there's free passage for ice all the way to Indian ocean

mmm yesss, theres Ice, for about 2/3 of the year, cuz ICE is what you were talking about when you mentioned various landmasses, like russia, and canada and greenland... Ice.

well ok , i gotta give you greenland, on account of it being mostly frozed over since ~ 1300 AD, and still thawing out (through entirely natural processes in the main) to this day.

and look, we are right back at the Little Ice Age that Pwned society, by bucking the gettin Warmer trend and causing a great deal of totally NOT ANTHROPOGENIC climate change.
change which created the uplsop trend that continues to this day (and many models show the global mean temps would still be increasing even if CO2 production remained at 1400-1500 ad Production levels.)and while certainly anthropogenic increases in CO2 are making some changes, that still leaves the Trillion Dollar Question, "How Much?"

cute picture though.

it still doesnt show canada, greenland and russia encircling the arctic sea, in fact it shows the arctic sea encircling THEM

and whats more i said WATER, not ice.

the only times there free passage for ICE is during the glaciations, which have apparently ceased their (previously) predictable cycling out of respect for your beliefs.
unless you count icebergs. they do in fact float out of the "Mostly Enclosed" Arctic sea, through the non-existent passages over the totally not imaginary and completely not arbitrary, entirely real barriers that separate the Arctic, from the Bering, from the Pacific from the Indian...

i bet even fish cannot pass!

hmm i just saw the top stanza, which amazingly enough, brings us right back to 1979!
again this was the PEAK of a breif (30-40 year long) cold spell in the midst of the holocene stability which has been so widely remarked upon.

THATS when all the global warming graphs start, Thats when the Hockeystick graph Starts, thats when Global Warming became the boogeyman under the bed, and as a return to Previous Norms began (still cooler than the holocene maximum, and MUCH cooler than previous interglacial maximums) that return to Pre-depression temperature levels, as predicted by natural cycles, suddenly became ALARMING, TERRIFYING, and CATASTROPHIC

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/abrupt/data2.html

 

[ginjawarrior]

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it still doesnt show canada, greenland and russia encircling the arctic sea, in fact it shows the arctic sea encircling THEM

Lmao please stop your killing me here

Keynes you do know the artic sea is a geographical location?

And that geographic location doesn't grow with the ice?

 

[Dr Kynes]

I wonder what the (mostly) enclosed artic ocean looks like with ice(1980)...

As you can see both the Bering and fram straights are totally open and not at all bottlenecked up with ice

It's really stunning the way you so readily criticize my criticism of your side's FIXATION on the climate of the late 70's, while simultaneously pretending it doesn't exist, and when you need proof that it gets cold in the arctic, well lets go back to the winter of 1979/80 for a look!

your side is FIXATED on the climate of the late 70's/early 80's, despite it's being the bottom of a cold temp anomaly trough, and you pretend that it's all just my imagination.

but here we are again, you using the climate of the winter of '79/'80 as proof of your claims that water freezes when you get it cold enough, like say, at the peak of a global cold spell.

but yes, lets do carry on with the charade.

 

[ginjawarrior]

It's really stunning the way you so readily criticize my criticism of your side's FIXATION on the climate of the late 70's, while simultaneously pretending it doesn't exist, and when you need proof that it gets cold in the arctic, well lets go back to the winter of 1979/80 for a look!

your side is FIXATED on the climate of the late 70's/early 80's, despite it's being the bottom of a cold temp anomaly trough, and you pretend that it's all just my imagination.

but here we are again, you using the climate of the winter of '79/'80 as proof of your claims that water freezes when you get it cold enough, like say, at the peak of a global cold spell.

but yes, lets do carry on with the charade.

Satellite data?

You've gone so far off the beaten track with this Keynes

I'm now trying to prove "water freezes when you get it cold"?

Cool story bro

 

[Dr Kynes]

Keynes you do know the artic sea is a geographical location?

And that geographic location doesn't grow with the ice?

hardy har har.

now pretend i am making some claim about the arctic sea stretching to florida or some shit.

you really do buold shitty straw men. when you try to knock them down they fall right on you, but when somebody else knocks them down you cry foul.

i wonder what your next reference to 1979 will be, perhaps some stunning evidence hidden through backwards masking on a Bay City Rollers LP?

mysterious symbols on the label of your Led ZepplinIV 8-track cassette?

Crop Circles in your Shag carpet which no amount of raking can dislodge?

or that there were still a couple white guys in the NBA?

 

[ginjawarrior]

hardy har har.

now pretend i am making some claim about the arctic sea stretching to florida or some shit.

you really do buold shitty straw men. when you try to knock them down they fall right on you, but when somebody else knocks them down you cry foul.

i wonder what your next reference to 1979 will be, perhaps some stunning evidence hidden through backwards masking on a Bay City Rollers LP?

mysterious symbols on the label of your Led ZepplinIV 8-track cassette?

Crop Circles in your Shag carpet which no amount of raking can dislodge?

or that there were still a couple white guys in the NBA?

You've just spent last few pages arguing against something you misread



That's an bonefide quote from you. You really did say the artic sea was encircling Russia and Canada

I'm making no strawmen here

 

[Dr Kynes]

You've just spent last few pages arguing against something you misread



That's an bonefide quote from you. You really did say the artic sea was encircling Russia and Canada

I'm making no strawmen here

yep.

the arctic sea wraps itself around the coasts of canada greenland, alaska, and russia, but it only "mostly" encloses them, so they arent trapped by the impenetrable barriers that keep the Arctic Sea penned up like a caged animal.

 

[ginjawarrior]

it still doesnt show canada, greenland and russia encircling the arctic sea, in fact it shows the arctic sea encircling THEM

hardy har har.

now pretend i am making some claim about the arctic sea stretching to florida or some shit.

[h=2]en·cir·cle[/h] transitive verb \in-ˈsər-kəl, en-\: to form a circle around (someone or something)
: to surround (someone or something)










[h=2]Full Definition of ENCIRCLE[/h]1
: to form a circle around : surround

2
: to pass completely around

 

[ginjawarrior]

yep.

the arctic sea wraps itself around the coasts of canada greenland, alaska, and russia, but it only "mostly" encloses them, so they rent trapped by the impenetrable barriers that keep the Arctic Sea penned up like a caged animal.

No the words you are looking for is "ice" not "artic sea"...

Mostly? You still haven't gotten hang of that word yet have you
[h=2]most·ly[/h] adverb \ˈmōst-lē\—used to say that a statement you are making is true or correct at most times or that it describes a usual situation or condition
: almost all or almost completely