Earth Gains A Record Amount Of Sea Ice In 2013

Doer

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They stopped Buck from Moderating. This one should also be stopped for this tap dance, alone. But, it is just more track record.
 

Doer

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I'm going out on the lake, you guys have fun with your shit fest. I know i did. :eyesmoke:
So, here is a Moderator that admits he started a shit fest and enjoys that. Now he pretends to go gloat. But we know it is to cry.
 

Doer

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I must add that it is a very Petty Mod Trick, to delete some post and then claim what the contents were.

I learned to keep my copies current, so I know what was said.
 

Doer

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OK. Let us continue with the 2007 Report. (YES< this the REAL one)

But, even though the linchpin of the AGW hand waving is the Greenhouse, there is no proposal as to why that occurred in the first place, after the Oxygen Age began, or even if it did. More importantly, there is no prediction at all of how the Earth managed to recover if, it happened at all.

And there is always the discussion, from the beginning of the UN-cetainty and the lack of data.

http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch6s6-7.html

6.7 Concluding Remarks on Key Uncertainties

Knowledge of climate variability over the last 1 to 2 kyr in the SH and tropics is severely limited by the lack of palaeoclimatic records. In the NH, the situation is better, but there are important limitations due to a lack of tropical records and ocean records.

Differing amplitudes and variability observed in available millennial-length NH temperature reconstructions, and the extent to which these differences relate to choice of proxy data and statistical calibration methods, need to be reconciled. Similarly, the understanding of how climatic extremes (i.e., in temperature and hydro-climatic variables) varied in the past is incomplete.

Lastly, this assessment would be improved with extensive networks of proxy data that run right up to the present day. This would help measure how the proxies responded to the rapid global warming observed in the last 20 years, and it would also improve the ability to investigate the extent to which other, non-temperature, environmental changes may have biased the climate response of proxies in recent decades.
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That last, we have to add, IF ANY EXTENT. And that is the problem and that is bad science.

This began with a non-scientific assumption of Greenhouse. And it jumped from gas to gas, and now CO2. And it was ignored by real Science, until now. And now the real thinkers are being the backlash.

The models will be hard pressed to show much warming lately and will find again it is impossible to show AGW.
 

Doer

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So, hearing today in Congress, shows that, at the same decade last, that we know, we did add CO2, based on the radio-carbon sig. in a big quantity, 25% increase.

Yet, this is the same decade as we more closely measured, we found a stall in the very warming that should have jumped with 25% extra CO2.
 

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
They stopped Buck from Moderating. This one should also be stopped for this tap dance, alone. But, it is just more track record.
Buck stepped down on his own. Just to let you know.

But you know so much about how things work around here.
 

canndo

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So, hearing today in Congress, shows that, at the same decade last, that we know, we did add CO2, based on the radio-carbon sig. in a big quantity, 25% increase.

Yet, this is the same decade as we more closely measured, we found a stall in the very warming that should have jumped with 25% extra CO2.
Why do you presume a linearity?
 

Doer

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BTW, the very crux of this issue, is the computer models. The old ones are proved flawed. OK. Fine. They didn't agree among themselves.

The newer ones are predicting this linearity, and a temporal correlation of some kind. It doesn't show.

And no model can show AGW and match real satellite data.

Let us see.
 
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