Ok so what's the big dealz with BHO?

[midnitetoak]

I have been enjoying making & smoking water hash these dayz. I see so many threads on BHO but I'm not sure it is worth all the expensive equipment to get started. A glass tube, vac chamber, electric skillet, vac pump, and an electric griddle is like $380. Are the tesults really worth it or should I stick with making bubble?

 

[Twitch]

uhhh yes it is so worth it.....
bubble doesnt hold a candle to bho
i smoked bho one time and i was like how do i make this, have been making it ever since

 

[LIBERTYCHICKEN]

After bubble is made could someone extract BHO from the remaining plant matterial (after it's dryed)

 

[loquacious]

I have been enjoying making & smoking water hash these dayz. I see so many threads on BHO but I'm not sure it is worth all the expensive equipment to get started. A glass tube, vac chamber, electric skillet, vac pump, and an electric griddle is like $380. Are the tesults really worth it or should I stick with making bubble?

If you don't mind a lot of impurities. No matter how much you boil and vac purge, it still has contaminants. Don't believe the hype.

 

[midnitetoak]

I like the simplicity of water hash but I know yield is better with BHO. I can't wrap my head around vac purging & keeping temperature right for desired form. It looks easy up until purging process. If I do try it what kind of vac chamber & pump do I need?

 

[robnarley1111]

Imagine the media headlines in ten years:

"A large number of people who smoked marijuana extract otherwise known as BHO are starting to experience a variety of health ailments which weren't apparent for many years, some that are life threatening...etc, etc, etc."

My point is: BHO isn't a "natural" method of consumption. My view is to leave it the way "God" intended, without the additives and chemical processing that introduces possibly harmful elements to the mix.

 

[midnitetoak]

I don't like impurities or even the idea of smoking anything extracted using butane or alcohol. Maybe I'll just stay with my awesome tasting and effective ice wax for now. Unless someone can explain why BHO is so much better.

 

[Twitch]

If you don't mind a lot of impurities. No matter how much you boil and vac purge, it still has contaminants. Don't believe the hype.

u have alot of experience with bho? please share or are you one of those people that jumps on the its bad for you because your using butane band wagon? seems like the band wagon

there are people out there that do make and purge bho correctly, just because the stuff you have possibly come in contact with sucked doesn't mean it all does so dont spread lies

also if you want to go to a market stand point... you yield alot more product people will pay more for it and there is a higher demand for it.
there are people taking there bubble hash they cant move and asking us on the forums how to make it into bho

 

[Twitch]

I don't like impurities or even the idea of smoking anything extracted using butane or alcohol. Maybe I'll just stay with my awesome tasting and effective ice wax for now. Unless someone can explain why BHO is so much better.

bho is 80% or higher your ice wax on a good day might be 50% to 60% and the yield is significantly less
80% is the low end on bho 50% to 60% is the high end of your ice wax
so you get less and its not as effective.....

i honestly could careless which way you go but properly made and purged bho does not have contaminates that are remotely bad for your health, these people that go around say this bullshit, well its just that its bullshit

have a good one

 

[Twitch]

Imagine the media headlines in ten years:

"A large number of people who smoked marijuana extract otherwise known as BHO are starting to experience a variety of health ailments which weren't apparent for many years, some that are life threatening...etc, etc, etc."

My point is: BHO isn't a "natural" method of consumption. My view is to leave it the way "God" intended, without the additives and chemical processing that introduces possibly harmful elements to the mix.

can you site your sources for the quote please? and everclear can be made naturally these are very very similar

 

[midnitetoak]

No bandwagon bro, and I understand why would you really give a shit what I do anyway. You are probably right about the concentration. I've seen bho that looks like spongebob & I bet it tastes as delicious as it looks. I never had access to any kind of wax before and am intrigued by even just the simple bubble I make in my messy kitchen sink. I make it for me and my friends to enjoy so small scale is all good. However I read somewher here on RIU that properly purged BHO is actually better for you because you are not smoking any plant matter; the butane is vacuumed off with a little heat. I get it but believe I lack the expertise to try it right now.

My concerns are actually more about safety, chemical smells, and good ventilated space to work. I thought about trying qwiso because it looks easy but I smelled the iso and it made me gag. There's no way you can get all the alcohol out just leaving it on a plate overnight like a crackhead melting resin off a glass stem. No qwiso fuck that. I believe doing BHO right means investing in equipment too but that is not in the budget. I guess I just want a big gob of honey to appear before me so I can try a dab. Dabbing my bubble doesnt seem worth the effort; I tend to just crown some bud with my hash. I have about .75 oz of tiny popcorn leftovers which is hardly worth running through bags. I think for now I might just add a bit of cured bud to run through bags. I might be stuck doing bubble for awhile but I do want to try BHO in the not too distant future. Thanks everyone for your advice

 

[Twitch]

fuck right off you hahahah!!

twitch, I dont know how you do it man. im getting real sick of this place and all the new fucking idiots here these past few weeks. I mean, who the fuck are all these guys who posted, ive been here every day for 10 months and I dont recognize a single name in this thread except for yours, yet they all seem to be oil experts, what a joke.

Dude i have no idea all of a sudden there are all these people i have never seen before popping in with their 2 cents, i have never seen any of these names in the concentrate section, well the ones giving out the poor advice.



and you are correct midnite (about it being better because there is no more plant matter left in it) if you blast it with butane, you dont actually have to purge out the butane completely IF and ONLY IF you are going to winterize it. and that is when you put your bho into everclear then place in the freezer for 24 to 48 hours what this does is actually separate the fats waxes and lipids that are picked up by the butane. once you have strained that and evaporated off the everclear, you are left with pure oil goodness with zero plant material or solvents,

yes this process has to be done correctly, but so does growing pot if you dont know what your doing you could give people weed with shit sprayed all over it, and if anyone thinks there outdoor crops they get from people dont have pesticides sprayed on them you are higher then me

 

[Guzias1]

Imagine the media headlines in ten years:

"A large number of people who smoked marijuana extract otherwise known as BHO are starting to experience a variety of health ailments which weren't apparent for many years, some that are life threatening...etc, etc, etc."

My point is: BHO isn't a "natural" method of consumption. My view is to leave it the way "God" intended, without the additives and chemical processing that introduces possibly harmful elements to the mix.

God's intentions? So he gave us this plant, with specific intentions? Like specifically gave us a guide on how to grow it.. ooo. I'm sure he gave a good trimming tutorial as well..

Bubble hash comes with a while bunch of impurities.. in the concentrate area..we call dirt, cat/dog hair, rocks, leaf, plastic tie wraps, etc.. those are called impurities.. all are pretty dang easy to find with bubble and a microscope..

There are dangers to be avoided with bho. So ALWAYS have your thinking cap on.

I never put so much little effort into weed to get something so amazing out with butane.

A vac and chamber are not necessary if you have plenty of time.. those along with heat mostly help speed up the process

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If the world ran out of butane. I would start b extracting with ethanol. If that disappeared. I would then only go to ice

 

[brownEs]

I have been enjoying making & smoking water hash these dayz. I see so many threads on BHO but I'm not sure it is worth all the expensive equipment to get started. A glass tube, vac chamber, electric skillet, vac pump, and an electric griddle is like $380. Are the tesults really worth it or should I stick with making bubble?

its really not expensive, Shop around ,Craigs,eBay, etc. I put my ENTIRE setup together for under $150

 

[Thundercat]

So I've done about 4 dabs this morning, and didn't feel like reading through all the controversy posts, but wanted to add my 2 cents too the mix. Most of you guys have seen my extractions at this point,and I'd like to think I know what I'm doing.

Heres the deal midnite- The big deal about solvent extractions is that when made properly they are infact PURE extractions. They will likely be 80%+ vs. the 50-60% this IWE as mentioned earlier, and they don't contain any plant matter (= less carcinogens).

It seems several of these guys are against solvent extractions, which is usually based in misinformation, or personal bias. I know several of the rest of you guys are full on into butane extractions, and know how to do them well.

Personally I am really into alcohol extractions. The alcohol does evap very very cleanly with little more then a fan blowing on it midnite. I personally just set my dish on top of my dehumidifier with a filter ontop and leave it for 24hrs. The set up, the quick wash, and the clean up take less then 10 minutes. In my book alcohol extraction is the only way to go because of it being safer to process as well, you MUST do butane extractions outdoors which I can't where I live. Butane is also much more expensive to make then using ISO.

I made this yesterday....well scraped it yesterday, washed it a couple days ago. This was a wash of some fresh frozen bottom buds off my Sin's OG plant I just harvested.

 

[Twitch]

So I've done about 4 dabs this morning, and didn't feel like reading through all the controversy posts, but wanted to add my 2 cents too the mix. Most of you guys have seen my extractions at this point,and I'd like to think I know what I'm doing.

Heres the deal midnite- The big deal about solvent extractions is that when made properly they are infact PURE extractions. They will likely be 80%+ vs. the 50-60% this IWE as mentioned earlier, and they don't contain any plant matter (= less carcinogens).

It seems several of these guys are against solvent extractions, which is usually based in misinformation, or personal bias. I know several of the rest of you guys are full on into butane extractions, and know how to do them well.

Personally I am really into alcohol extractions. The alcohol does evap very very cleanly with little more then a fan blowing on it midnite. I personally just set my dish on top of my dehumidifier with a filter ontop and leave it for 24hrs. The set up, the quick wash, and the clean up take less then 10 minutes. In my book alcohol extraction is the only way to go because of it being safer to process as well, you MUST do butane extractions outdoors which I can't where I live. Butane is also much more expensive to make then using ISO.

you dont have to read through it lol unless you want to kill time, you re-stated for these guys what everyone has already said so maybe through repetition they will learn, like beating a little kid some times you just got to keep smacking the shit out of them

 

[Twitch]

After bubble is made could someone extract BHO from the remaining plant matterial (after it's dryed)

and to answer your question, i am sure you could if you dried the material back out without it getting moldy, i mean bone dry and at that its not going to be great stuff, but if your just looking to get everything out of your material then yea go for it

 

[Thundercat]

I think the more times you process something the more terpenes your gonna lose. Seems like you could get a very high purity from doing a solvent extraction on existing IWE by removing the rest of the plant matter, but that the flavors would greatly suffer, as well as some of the other cannabinoids. I don't know though thats all speculation.

 

[Twitch]

I think the more times you process something the more terpenes your gonna lose. Seems like you could get a very high purity from doing a solvent extraction on existing IWE by removing the rest of the plant matter, but that the flavors would greatly suffer, as well as some of the other cannabinoids. I don't know though thats all speculation.

there is some flavor lose but only enough that a seasoned smoker would be able to tell, but the trade off is the lack of bite at the end of a rip.

absolutes are the bees knees and make them only for myself or friends

 

[midnitetoak]

Well I gotta say that looks better than any ISO I've seen thus far Thundercat. Now you got me intrigued. I have everything to try this on hand. I'm starting to understand why there is so much drama surrounding this subject. Everyone is so opinionated which shows how passionate people are about their honey oil. I've gotta try both but I need to understand the process better before I try making BHO.