Who knows of 2012,

blonddie07

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I wish it didn't resort to any arming... but i really doubt that. Unless 80% of the americans chnage their mind and say "hold on a god damn fucking second here... Why the fuck havn't I seen all this!? why have i been so blind! GOVERNMENT REFORM!"

Then we will have a peaceful revolution of all the assholes out of congress and then start taking controll of the media and putting strict laws on monopoly... hopfully somthing damn legit....

Using all the technology that could run this planet for free... rid famine.... rid of EVIL.
 

Microdizzey

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Well, either way I have to calm down with this stuff. I was living in fear, and Im not anymore so Im happy about that. I mean I have to calm down with the pointless things. I have been looking into this stuff for months now and I feel that Im very informed, however I wasnt taking the information well.

My point is...what is the point of all this stuff? I learned about a lot, but I also learned that theres really nothing I can do about it. Im thankful that I was informed though, but I have to get on with my life. I have calmed down now though, and I believe in the end everything will be good. What will happen in 2012 will be for the best. Whether its entering the soul realm through death or some other way or being able to enter other dimensions all this is very exciting. I agree that we have to do something about whats going on in the earth though, the government and the powers are not informing us of half of whats going on and they are planning very bad and chaotic things behind our back, but what can we do about it??? I tell people this stuff and they think I belong in a mental hospital, noone will take this seriously unless they see it with their own eyes and until it starts happening. Do what you can, and peace to you all.
it's the same for me, when i tell other people. i don't just go and say "OMG THE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU DEAD" and stuff like that. i talk to them about current issues going on and certain plans (that DO exist and are documented), yet i'm still called a conspiracy theorist.

people are dumb now, there's no hope for anybody who doesn't question things. even when there is evidence being smacked in their faces, they still sit and drool.


So lets do some brainstorming! Maybe make a thread dedicated to it? Have you seen this Milf REVOLUTION March on D.C. - July 12th, 2008 - The GRAND RALLY for Feedom, Peace, and Prosperity - Ron Paul!

So there are people gathering, and I'm sure there are some potential "troops" there. Everyone going there is most likely very informed on our current events and how things are turning for the worse with our present gov't.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
this is awesome! i hope i can make it.
 

We TaRdED

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it's the same for me, when i tell other people. i don't just go and say "OMG THE GOVERNMENT WANTS YOU DEAD" and stuff like that. i talk to them about current issues going on and certain plans (that DO exist and are documented), yet i'm still called a conspiracy theorist.

people are dumb now, there's no hope for anybody who doesn't question things. even when there is evidence being smacked in their faces, they still sit and drool.
Tell them about Fluoride in our water! It is tough telling the truth to someone who is completely ignorant of all this. The best way to pass on your knowledge might be to share some links to your friends. Try not to be too certain about something until you are completely certain, and then leave room for skepticism. So if you want to inform someone about the fluoride in water, it might be a better idea to ask them if they know the effects that fluoride has on the brain. Get them involved that way. :D

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
 
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hom36rown

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I wish it didn't resort to any arming... but i really doubt that. Unless 80% of the americans chnage their mind and say "hold on a god damn fucking second here... Why the fuck havn't I seen all this!? why have i been so blind! GOVERNMENT REFORM!"

Then we will have a peaceful revolution of all the assholes out of congress and then start taking controll of the media and putting strict laws on monopoly... hopfully somthing damn legit....

Using all the technology that could run this planet for free... rid famine.... rid of EVIL.
the problem is rising up in arms wouldnt work either.. unless we had the vast majority of americans fighting on our side, than I cant really picture a scenario where we could somehow take over by force, we'd need weapons, munitions, military strategists etc. The masses wouldnt understand what we were fighting for and as long as the gov't controls the media itd be hard to get out word out.It would just become us vs. them, and we would be resented because obviously we'd have to kill people to take over by force. It just seems unfathomable to me. Besides even if we succeeded, any gov't we put in place would soon be corrupted, and if we just sought to abolish gov't completely it would be chaos...basically our only hope is for the masses to become enlightened, and that seems pretty dismal, atleast anytime in the near future. Maybe Im just a glass is half empty kinda guy, or maybe this is just the human condition and we are destined to destroy ourselves
 
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HotNSexyMILF

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So lets do some brainstorming! Maybe make a thread dedicated to it? Have you seen this Milf REVOLUTION March on D.C. - July 12th, 2008 - The GRAND RALLY for Feedom, Peace, and Prosperity - Ron Paul!

So there are people gathering, and I'm sure there are some potential "troops" there. Everyone going there is most likely very informed on our current events and how things are turning for the worse with our present gov't.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~
I hear yaa... I plan on going if I can to DC... it's just shyty timing.. I'm moving July 6th.. so it really depends on how the move goes... :peace: I'll throw up a thread in the politics and hopefully we'll start getting ideas..
 

The Dude 4552

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Blondie

(everyone else can skip this post if you want)

Yes, you obviously don't get me.

I read local newspapers to give me a synopsis of the events currently taking place in my surrounding neighborhood, as an alternative to local television. As a skeptic I take whatever is said in ANY media with a grain of salt (contrary to your arbitrary assumption). It was a letter in the 'comment' portion that sparked me to do some investigative research. Through research on the government of Canada website, independent newsmedia around the globe, video documentary evidence and guest speeches I discovered the information behind bill C-51. I watched the first debate of bill c-51 on CPAC and heard what government MPs' and Tony Clement had to say, and formulated said opinion.

Perhaps next time I should articulate myself a little better. However, if you are familiar with parliamentary procedure in Canada you would understand that each reading of a bill constitutes a vote in the house, and this first vote leans toward the bill passing. Short of a massive turnaround of a large number of MPs, there is no question the bill will be passed.

Now, to retort your inflammatory response:

You have a good friend in Canada who told you the bill has not passed yet. You have anecdotal evidence from someone somewhat trustworthy that lends no insight or knowledge into what bill C-51 is, its purpose or its implementation. You aren't paying any attention to the events surrounding it, be it at the local level or in government. You chastise me for reading a newspaper and in the same breath you say that you watch television for news. I choose to read newspapers because they lend a much deeper insight into what events are taking place. Newspapers have articles, television has 3-5 minute news stories and sentences summarizing entire events scrolling along the screen at the same time. You think you can pick apart the bullshit that exists by watching television?

I, unlike yourself, did much research as to the validity of the claims in that article as well as going way beyond the scope of whats being covered in traditional news media.

If you wanted to refute my statement, how about backing it up with some actual information? Instead you tried to attack my credibility with weak arguments speculating that I get said information from mainstream media sources, which is both baseless and false. Your emotional responses, which lack any information do not lend to the conversation. Your belief that too many people are 'informed' can not be further from the truth.

People may know that bill C-51 exists, but how many people know what a danger it is to public health? How many people hear about it and forget it in the same breath? How many people think it doesn't apply to them? How many people simply don't care?

I apologize if you misconstrued what I said as some kind of attack on your intelligence. The fact that you are on a marijuana growing website shows you have some distrust of the government and the elitists that run the country and their policies. The mere fact that you are involved in an internet forum shows that you enjoy communicating with others online instead of much of the other wastes of time that exist. But these simply hostile comments have no place in a meaningful conversation involving real-life issues and your lack of insight (or just not wanting to type out a long diatribe like myself) gives the impression that you lack the ability to formulate an intelligent opinion. However I would never use this as a judge of character, as you seem to have done with me, as I have never met you.

So to close, please...PLEASE do not try to insult my intelligence by insinuating that I do not read or that I do not know what I am talking about. If you knew me personally you would laugh at someone making that type of remark.
 

blonddie07

Well-Known Member
Blondie

(everyone else can skip this post if you want)

Yes, you obviously don't get me.

I read local newspapers to give me a synopsis of the events currently taking place in my surrounding neighborhood, as an alternative to local television. As a skeptic I take whatever is said in ANY media with a grain of salt (contrary to your arbitrary assumption). It was a letter in the 'comment' portion that sparked me to do some investigative research. Through research on the government of Canada website, independent newsmedia around the globe, video documentary evidence and guest speeches I discovered the information behind bill C-51. I watched the first debate of bill c-51 on CPAC and heard what government MPs' and Tony Clement had to say, and formulated said opinion.

Perhaps next time I should articulate myself a little better. However, if you are familiar with parliamentary procedure in Canada you would understand that each reading of a bill constitutes a vote in the house, and this first vote leans toward the bill passing. Short of a massive turnaround of a large number of MPs, there is no question the bill will be passed.

Now, to retort your inflammatory response:

You have a good friend in Canada who told you the bill has not passed yet. You have anecdotal evidence from someone somewhat trustworthy that lends no insight or knowledge into what bill C-51 is, its purpose or its implementation. You aren't paying any attention to the events surrounding it, be it at the local level or in government. You chastise me for reading a newspaper and in the same breath you say that you watch television for news. I choose to read newspapers because they lend a much deeper insight into what events are taking place. Newspapers have articles, television has 3-5 minute news stories and sentences summarizing entire events scrolling along the screen at the same time. You think you can pick apart the bullshit that exists by watching television?

I, unlike yourself, did much research as to the validity of the claims in that article as well as going way beyond the scope of whats being covered in traditional news media.

If you wanted to refute my statement, how about backing it up with some actual information? Instead you tried to attack my credibility with weak arguments speculating that I get said information from mainstream media sources, which is both baseless and false. Your emotional responses, which lack any information do not lend to the conversation. Your belief that too many people are 'informed' can not be further from the truth.

People may know that bill C-51 exists, but how many people know what a danger it is to public health? How many people hear about it and forget it in the same breath? How many people think it doesn't apply to them? How many people simply don't care?

I apologize if you misconstrued what I said as some kind of attack on your intelligence. The fact that you are on a marijuana growing website shows you have some distrust of the government and the elitists that run the country and their policies. The mere fact that you are involved in an internet forum shows that you enjoy communicating with others online instead of much of the other wastes of time that exist. But these simply hostile comments have no place in a meaningful conversation involving real-life issues and your lack of insight (or just not wanting to type out a long diatribe like myself) gives the impression that you lack the ability to formulate an intelligent opinion. However I would never use this as a judge of character, as you seem to have done with me, as I have never met you.

So to close, please...PLEASE do not try to insult my intelligence by insinuating that I do not read or that I do not know what I am talking about. If you knew me personally you would laugh at someone making that type of remark.
Im pretty sure you were the one who assumed I was the kind of person which relies on popular media as my world news (in your definition a blind person of the true world and situations or a dumbass...)

You get what you ask for. You got your info on the internet... And you call that trusty information?

No thanks, I will trust the actuall facts. Hey even on their website i couldnt find anything that said "IT PASSED".

I dont like the fact that you put your self as if you are more superior and intelligent than I am.. actually than most people. If this is what you are trying to say.. then it just shows your arrogance, and possibly an insecurity of yours in your personal life..

and anyway, who are you trying to put a good image infront of? you dont know any of us, no one knows you...go ahead and type your "attack" back to me, if you really do care, you could PM me, instead of putting on a show in hopes that people watch...

nothing negative towards you, no disrespect, sorry if i hurt your feelings... But one should learn not to give a big deal (your feelings hurt over the "intelligence" thing...)

I'm not here to argue... there is more important shit going on that we should be worrying about... but since i already typed this in.. and realized it during.. ill just post this anyway.. Just for you! :)
 

Philly_Buddah

New Member
Hey calm down people, we are all supposed to be on the same side here. All humans are equal and one should never act like he/she is better or more superior than another human. Also, dont say this stuff or do this stuff just to do it(to everybody), do it for a reason, which there are many of. The best thing to do is to find the complete truth as best as you can to what is going on, and at all costs dont use the TV or the national news to do so. Once we find the total and complete truth we all can make our plans on how to get prepared for the event and how we are going to do our part and help get the word out and help everybody as best we can. If anything, the least we should do is find out for ourselves and get ourselves prepared as best we can if we dont have the chance to help anybody else out for some reason.

The main thing is that we dont want any of our people to die and suffer. From now on from what I have heard, I see the government as a sort of enemy. The enemy includes all the higher powers and people who basically run our lives. You also should know that you have nothing to fear, or at least try to not overly fear things(this is much more important to everything than just what we are talking about here), with nothing to fear none of this stuff can effect you negatively, and the people trying to do harm to you or who dont care about you cannot win if you are not in fear (terrorists, etc.). Do what you can but know in the end everything will be good (this is what I believe). I wouldnt be surprised if it does come down to WWIII/Armageddon/end of the world type of thing, but most likely 2012 is an important date because of much more drastic changes than that, we are entering a new age in human civilization and consciousness, I can almost feel it happening right now.
 

We TaRdED

Well-Known Member
Good post Philly Buddah :D I was going to rep you, but I can't ATMf.:-|

What are some of your ideas on ways to enlighten the people about the reality of things(the story the mainstream media likes to not mention)? I have been thinking about handing out DVD's at colleges or wherever, but I'm not computer savvy enough to make a compilation of pertinent videos that prove my points. I know how to share links with people, but I really would like to know how to take vids off the internet and burn them onto DVD's so I can pass out. It would make my job of helping enlighten people a lot easier. So whats some of your ideas?(Or anyones ideas)

If anyone wants some good links, than just ask. :mrgreen: I have been bookmarking them along the way, any vid that is legit and not a bunch of stupid shit, I have been bookmarking, on my quest for truth.

RON PAUL REVOLUTION

~PEACE~



Hey calm down people, we are all supposed to be on the same side here. All humans are equal and one should never act like he/she is better or more superior than another human. Also, dont say this stuff or do this stuff just to do it(to everybody), do it for a reason, which there are many of. The best thing to do is to find the complete truth as best as you can to what is going on, and at all costs dont use the TV or the national news to do so. Once we find the total and complete truth we all can make our plans on how to get prepared for the event and how we are going to do our part and help get the word out and help everybody as best we can. If anything, the least we should do is find out for ourselves and get ourselves prepared as best we can if we dont have the chance to help anybody else out for some reason.

The main thing is that we dont want any of our people to die and suffer. From now on from what I have heard, I see the government as a sort of enemy. The enemy includes all the higher powers and people who basically run our lives. You also should know that you have nothing to fear, or at least try to not overly fear things(this is much more important to everything than just what we are talking about here), with nothing to fear none of this stuff can effect you negatively, and the people trying to do harm to you or who dont care about you cannot win if you are not in fear (terrorists, etc.). Do what you can but know in the end everything will be good (this is what I believe). I wouldnt be surprised if it does come down to WWIII/Armageddon/end of the world type of thing, but most likely 2012 is an important date because of much more drastic changes than that, we are entering a new age in human civilization and consciousness, I can almost feel it happening right now.
 

Philly_Buddah

New Member
Im going to try to make a plan when I learn more and learn the complete truth for myself. I have found a lot of information but a lot of it is not legit and you can never be sure. I know that Im aware of things that I wasnt before but I still have much to learn as much is being kept from me and keeps getting harder and harder to find. So for right now, Im not sure what Im going to do but Ill be making a plan soon once I learn more. We need people in places of power and authority that arent completely ran by the government and the media to learn about these things, I think that is the best way to get the word out. Maybe start a bunch of websites and post it everywhere and start an underground movement and get as many people as we can to join in. Passing out DVDs would be good but you have to do it secretly and avoid being caught.
 

BreatheSmoke

New Member
I strongly believe that 2012 is the awakening. Many people believe that, in terms of time and our place in the universe, that 2012 is "Zero Point''. All major events that have happened up to this point create a pattern.. Which indicates that everything that happens, does for a reason, and we shouldn't fight our emotions. This is why we have war, for example. War is necessary in order to contribute to our awakening to a higher self.

You should check out some of Terrence Mckenna's work.
 

Budda_Luva

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LOL well after i read this alll i have to say is EVERYONE who posted here on the day of 12-21-2012 the exact day when the aztec calendar ends POST HERE AND TALK BOUT IT lol
 

AnitaNuggs

Well-Known Member
i swear i will be on here on that day...
we should make a survivors of the 2012 thread that day at 12:00am in the morning...
 

blonddie07

Well-Known Member
I don't understand why most people think 2012 is the "end of life"...

2012 is the year of great change... Maybe the "end of days"... the old days which were so dark and seemed to be like life was on "auto-pilot"

2012 is going to be the day all the bibles, all the old scriptures, writings, calanders etc... point to....PEACE!!!

True peace.

(lets hope! :)
 

hom36rown

Well-Known Member
I strongly believe that 2012 is the awakening. Many people believe that, in terms of time and our place in the universe, that 2012 is "Zero Point''. All major events that have happened up to this point create a pattern.. Which indicates that everything that happens, does for a reason, and we shouldn't fight our emotions. This is why we have war, for example. War is necessary in order to contribute to our awakening to a higher self.

You should check out some of Terrence Mckenna's work.
We have war for money, military bases, oil etc...whats that have to do with an awakening, wars have been around since the beginning of humanity and we still havent woke up yet :roll:
 

BreatheSmoke

New Member
We have war for money, military bases, oil etc...whats that have to do with an awakening, wars have been around since the beginning of humanity and we still havent woke up yet :roll:
We have these wired emotions/personalities for a reason. We have been fighting each other since the beginning of humanity because that's in our nature. 2012, something is going to happen. It's difficult to say what, but something is going to happen to make us view ourselves differently. I used war as an example of one of the many aspects of ourselves that we had to experience in order to 'awaken.' Humans are complex in the way where we need to fully understand 'Hell' before we can understand 'Heaven.' [Heaven & Hell are places the human mind has made up to represent good and evil.] Wars - money - all come down to selfishness, & that's one of the ugly qualities that will be done with at Zero Point.
 

twostarhotel

Well-Known Member
people dont understand the power of our earth and our universe what will happen in 2012 has to do with cosmic energy and the pulse and vibrations we share with everything.
higher vibrations means more complex the pattern this rate of frequency has been rising in the past few years by 2012 it will be at a much higher rate and will allow us if we choose to understand and accept our oneness with the earth and everything in it, it will supposidly open our third eye, a level of consciousness which i cant fully explain, but it will allow us to even contact other things in our cosmic universe because we will all be on the same frequency, our bodies will change too since atoms and dna are not solid but more of a light reciever, its about understanding our chakras and how it works
the real truth of our creation and reality, the time of awakening

The Legend of Atlantis: Part 1, Dawn of the Gods - Sprword.com
The Legend of Atlantis: Part 2, The Secret Brotherhood of Atlantis - Sprword.com
The Legend of Atlantis: Part 3, The Secret Prophecies of the Apocalypse - Sprword.com
The Legend of Atlantis: Part 4 - The Return of the Atlantean Light Masters - Sprword.com
http://www.sprword.com/videos/legendofatlantis5/

i actually watched all of these it took me like 2 weeks haha but its intresting to put all the religions, beliefs and traditions we know now today and compare it to this. it kinda starts coming together on how this all came to be, but of corse this is just a theory
but a good one to know about
 

AnitaNuggs

Well-Known Member
I don't understand why most people think 2012 is the "end of life"...

2012 is the year of great change... Maybe the "end of days"... the old days which were so dark and seemed to be like life was on "auto-pilot"

2012 is going to be the day all the bibles, all the old scriptures, writings, calanders etc... point to....PEACE!!!

True peace.

(lets hope! :)
amen to that!! lol
 
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