Autos that don't Suck

[Amos Otis]

Is there such a thing?

Last spring 8 were set out back; beans accumulated from promo freebies. Even though some looked very nice, none were anything smokeworthy unless nothing else was available. Is anyone doing autos because they have a plant they love to burn - if so, what is it?

 

[althor]

I have smoked some pretty potent autos.
Now, while they have been potent and only a couple of hits would kick in a buzz, the buzz itself is pretty terrible IMO.
If all MJ had the same type of buzz as autos, I wouldn't smoke MJ.

I would pick 25 bucks a quarter Mexican brickweed over autos every single time.

 

[Thecouchlock]

Autos are like smoking spice.

 

[TonightYou]

Is there such a thing?

Last spring 8 were set out back; beans accumulated from promo freebies. Even though some looked very nice, none were anything smokeworthy unless nothing else was available. Is anyone doing autos because they have a plant they love to burn - if so, what is it?

Congratulations! You've now learned about how shitty autos are first hand.
Want good, smokable plants? buy regular photoperiod

 

[Clankie]

I'm thinking of trying a few different autos outdoors next year. The CO outdoor season is not particularly good for cannabis, in addition to the summer heat and wind, by the time the nights are long enough to induce flowering, the frosts are never far behind. Snow as early as September is not super unusual. The only real way I've ever been able to get good results outdoors in this state was by just moving plants that were vegged and induced artificially outdoors as soon as the nights are long enough. Not that there aren't plenty of people growing outdoors here, but the quality is almost always exceptionally low. If you were growing an auto, you could reliably get 1-2 harvests outdoors every year; which is something I think a lot of CO growers would be into.

That said, the potency remains a concern, and a lot of the autos that are currently available are available as feminized beans, which would prevent people from simply letting their autos going to seed for the purposes of reproduction. Potency is not really as much of a concern as is the quality of the high, as I love making extracts, and extracts are much more dependent on the quality of the cannabinoid/terpene blend than the actual percentages of the plant, I'm going to be composting all the actual plant matter anyways. I'm currently thinking of just picking up two packs of Lowryder regs to start next spring, and then working some of the better autoflowering male pollen into my biggest and beastliest female cuts for an f1 generation, and then using the autoflowering males and females to produce a great quality of mostly autoflowering (hopefully) f2 beans. I'm an anticorporate anarchist asshole, so I'd love to drop a few hundred beans to give away with purchase at a shop so that people could steadily produce their own colorado-outdoor-viable seeds.

 

[Orlandocb]

I'm thinking of trying a few different autos outdoors next year. The CO outdoor season is not particularly good for cannabis, in addition to the summer heat and wind, by the time the nights are long enough to induce flowering, the frosts are never far behind. Snow as early as September is not super unusual. The only real way I've ever been able to get good results outdoors in this state was by just moving plants that were vegged and induced artificially outdoors as soon as the nights are long enough. Not that there aren't plenty of people growing outdoors here, but the quality is almost always exceptionally low. If you were growing an auto, you could reliably get 1-2 harvests outdoors every year; which is something I think a lot of CO growers would be into.

That said, the potency remains a concern, and a lot of the autos that are currently available are available as feminized beans, which would prevent people from simply letting their autos going to seed for the purposes of reproduction. Potency is not really as much of a concern as is the quality of the high, as I love making extracts, and extracts are much more dependent on the quality of the cannabinoid/terpene blend than the actual percentages of the plant, I'm going to be composting all the actual plant matter anyways. I'm currently thinking of just picking up two packs of Lowryder regs to start next spring, and then working some of the better autoflowering male pollen into my biggest and beastliest female cuts for an f1 generation, and then using the autoflowering males and females to produce a great quality of mostly autoflowering (hopefully) f2 beans. I'm an anticorporate anarchist asshole, so I'd love to drop a few hundred beans to give away with purchase at a shop so that people could steadily produce their own colorado-outdoor-viable seeds.

I wouldn't grow in colorado, just buy. Its like growing jalapeno's for yourself when you live in mexico

 

[Clankie]

I wouldn't grow in colorado, just buy. Its like growing jalapeno's for yourself when you live in mexico

then, and plenty of offense meant, but you are fucking retarded. Its cheaper to grow your own, its legal to grow your own, and the shit in the shops is garbage compared to how my plants finish. Do you work for a shop or can you just not grow for shit?

 

[Buzerek]

Who cares about "autos" ? Those who use them are lousy "growers" who expect a living plant to grow "automaticaly" by itself.

When I started I consulted experienced grower, his opinion was: let other idiots grow it, you can do better than that.

[h=2]Autos that don't Suck ????[/h]Good luck, look for a needle in a haystack. Lmao

 

[Thecouchlock]

Nah bro, Grow your own. That way you know if it was sprayed with eagle 20 or some other cancer causing bullshit. I like to keep it clean do my own thang and yeah I will pick up smaller quantities for myself but you will not see me buying in bulk from a collective or anyone I don't know 100% how they grow.

 

[brimck325]

i grew sour 60 and it was surprisingly potent, but lacking very much in complexity. i would def. take over brick weed, unless home grown from brick seeds. what are they lacking? cannabinoids...

 

[~CReePeR~]

I grew an Autoberry and I got great reviews on the high from a bunch of friends, the only issue was I didn't cure it right. But next time I will. FYI...The Seeds were freebies.

 

[althor]

^ Last auto I smoked on, someone described it perfectly, and from my experiences (which are limited with autos) it applies to every auto I have smoked. He said....

"If it were a musical scale, it would hit all the low notes but miss all the high notes."

The potency is there in most autos these days. It is just not a well rounded, good MJ buzz. Like someone else said, almost like smoking spice or something and not MJ.

 

[Clankie]

^ Last auto I smoked on, someone described it perfectly, and from my experiences (which are limited with autos) it applies to every auto I have smoked. He said....

"If it were a musical scale, it would hit all the low notes but miss all the high notes."

The potency is there in most autos these days. It is just not a well rounded, good MJ buzz. Like someone else said, almost like smoking spice or something and not MJ.

This makes me curious about the cannabinoid levels in these plants, because that is pretty much the same way I would describe smoking any low-THC high-CBD plant. I can't be 100% on this, and I'm too lazy to google, but I swear I remember hearing that ruderalis (the species where the autoflowering genetics come from) had relatively high CBD and CBN levels along with their well documented low THC levels. Little to no head high or effect, but a serious body stone. This is actually what a lot of medicinal users with pain symptoms are looking for, so its not necessarily a bad thing, just more of a niche market than good 'recreational' cannabis. Anyways, it seems to me like it is all in the breeding. I don't think there's any concrete evidence tying the chromosome responsible for the autoflowering characteristic to the chromosomes responsible for cannabinoid levels, so I would think that with enough testing-based selection, you could eventually arrive at a high-THC auto. You'd just have to have the right starting point, like maybe a landrace african sativa....

 

[OrangeHaze]

lol, well maybe you should care for and cultivate your plants instead of tossing random unknown seeds in the ground. A well treated indoor auto can rival and outperform photos easily.

 

[Amos Otis]

lol, well maybe you should care for and cultivate your plants instead of tossing random unknown seeds in the ground. A well treated indoor auto can rival and outperform photos easily.

Since you didn't use a quote to indicate who you're replying to, I'll assume it was the OP; in which case you make the incorrect assumption the beans were 'random', as in unknown. In the group were 2 Dinafem, 2 Big Buddha, 2 Barneys Farm, and 2 that in fact were 'random' in that they were freebees from SoS. They were well tended, grew w/ no problems to finish, a couple of the BB were stellar. All until they were smoked. Hope that fills in some detail for you.

So, how 'bout you fill in your details about this 'well tended indoor auto' you say "

• can rival and outperform photos easily."
  
  Looks like that's a minority view - you wanna back it up?​
  
  
  
  

 

[Amos Otis]

^ Last auto I smoked on, someone described it perfectly, and from my experiences (which are limited with autos) it applies to every auto I have smoked. He said....

"If it were a musical scale, it would hit all the low notes but miss all the high notes."

The potency is there in most autos these days. It is just not a well rounded, good MJ buzz. Like someone else said, almost like smoking spice or something and not MJ.

Yep, I'd amen that. A White Cheddar even had a decent taste, but the effects of each one was subpar. To whoever said they wouldn't smoke MJ if it was all like autos, I'd have to agree ime.

The thing is, there's a ton of companies making and marketing them - someone certainly has to like them. OrageHaze can't possibly be buying them all.

 

[Thecouchlock]

Yeah a bunch of idiots are buying them lol, people who don't know how to grow weed and just wanna have their own stash. That is great for most people but not for the people smoking for 10 plus years who actually need some kind of thc in their bud. I have smoked an auto before and it wasn't even close to real weed imo

 

[ramie auto]

look up dutch passions think different high thc % and high yeilds

 

[BigEasy1]

These stories about auto's remind me of the stories I heard about riding a motorcycle in Italy with just a beanie helmet. The story as I heard it over and over was that the Italian cops would seize your bike if caught with an illegal helmet. Well, to make a long story short I rode my Road Glide the entire length of Italy, spent a week on Sicily, then rode back all the way through Italy again home with an illegal helmet and not one cop gave a shit. Even though I did that there's still this dumb ass at work that keeps "warning" people about Italy by passing bum scoop. He's never rode Italy but he's a fucking expert! lol

 

[TonightYou]

Yeah a bunch of idiots are buying them lol, people who don't know how to grow weed and just wanna have their own stash. That is great for most people but not for the people smoking for 10 plus years who actually need some kind of thc in their bud. I have smoked an auto before and it wasn't even close to real weed imo

Whats crazy is I know a medical grower here who grows them. Its like why the fuck would you choose this as an option? He has an actual tent, and its not like he couldn't have a veg area. I usually bring smoke everywhere I go, but I always bring my own when I visit. Every time I smoke his different autos it ends with a disappointing headache like high. Some have good bag appeal, but nothing close to what I grow. The time he takes to grow an auto, he could be flowering clones as a sea of green. Plus he is always buying fucking ceeds. He f1 some males that he had when he bough some regular autos trying to make his own crosses. That ended up with the f1s being all over the map with flowering and hermi tendencies.

Just seems like if you are going to grow, at least grow good ganja. Especially if you have access to order ceeds or get clones. Even the guerrilla grows I think, why the hell not use a fast flowering indica if time is of the essence. Autos....ugh fuck em. How hard is it to put a damn 12/12 timer on and have a light somewhere else for mothers/veg?