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Hillsborough disaster: FA cup match between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest 1989. Police opened the gates to allow fans into the ground as many were still outside before kick off. The design of the stadium was poor and there had been several historic near misses there. 96 Liverpool fans were...

'Conspiracies' have nothing to do with people of almost superhuman power. The definition of conspiracy is two or more people meeting in private to do something illegal or bad. Now, to suggest that the above doesn't happen would indeed be naive. Google Hillsborough, you'll find the government...

I beg to differ! Over here, for 25 years, families of the bereaved at Hillsborough fought for justice. They, and their supporters, were labeled conspiracy theorists by people like you who accept the view of the establishment. 25 years later the PM stands in parliament and apologised for, what...

Actually testees....before I completely ignore you, I have a challenge Start a thread, so we don't hijack this one, and let's debate Come on, let's debate politics and 'conspiracies' You and me. I know you don't know shit, you're all bluff. Now, there's a public challenge, accept or look...

Cognitive dissonance is a bitch eh! Some people only see what they want to see. Why is it people like fogdog bundle ALL 'conspiracies' into one basket and dismiss them all. Imagine taking that approach to anything else in life, crazy

This is true but only if you act alone. If enough people act on what they believe, change happens. I've seen it EDIT: I also don't think it neuters your power at all. A non vote is equal in its 'power' as a vote

Yes, I disagree. It wasn't my intention to argue, as I'm doing something else right now, you do not have my undivided attention

That's actually funny :bigjoint:

Sheep will bleet but ultimately they're sheep

I notice testees that you haven't yet discussed politics with me. This thread is a politics thread. Not a semantics thread Why is that, feel safe on one subject...not the other perhaps?

Weak

...and as for the belief that everyone thinks for themselves... Now who's naive lol The work Goebbels did was ignored yeah? Bollocks was it

It also, in no way, demonstrates my belief in my own 'self importance' at all. I'm not weak but I'm not more important than others. I just wish people were armed with information before forming opinions (example, your belief above. you don't know me yet you jump to a conclusion based on...

I agree with your final paragraph. As for the rest, you make interesting points but I do disagree with you on them. I've seen first hand how change happens by not voting for the established 'big 2'

Testees, you have said absolutely nothing of substance and yet you dress it up You polish turds ever thought of going into politics?

tedious. Women will die as a result of HC being elected. Fact Going to stop bombing Syria is she? You are all bluster, no substance weak

once again, you ignore my content and focus on insults. weak

I suggest that you think for yourself

as for brexit, I suggest you don't talk about things you know nothing about *cough Happy to discuss it, start a thread and invite me