10 x 600w HPS - Expected Yield?

MouseE

Well-Known Member
@MrJAB97 I am just an old fella offering my opinion for free. I am not trying to be condescending. I respect the honesty of your post and respect you as a person.
So for what it's worth here we go.
For every exciting success story you hear about getting rich growing cannabis commercially there is an equally depressing story of getting busted and fending off booty bandits in prison.

I suppose my focus would be on the profit to risk ratio.

Let us say you are hypothetically 18-19 year old living with your folks getting an education but you want to make something of yourself.
Option number one: Jump straight into a commercial scale operation dumping 5k on something you yourself admit to having little experience with. Such as the logistics of not owning/renting a property to operate from. Buying, transporting and setting up equipment safely. Harvesting and distributing your product without exposing yourself to the various risks that this entails. Relying on others to help and trusting them not to point to you as the kingpin if it all goes south. Pretty daunting stuff. Ignore the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow and have a think on every practical detail. Is this option impossible? Nope. Does it have an incredibly steep and dangerous learning curve? Yep. Profit is a maybe, risk is a definate.Looking after a large grow is a lot of work.

Now let's have a look at option number two. You play it cool and calculated. Finish your education get a job you can tolerate. Use some of the 5k to rent yourself an apartment or even better a house.Please do not grow in your parents house.America has some crazy property seizure laws. I lived on the Eastern seaboard when I was younger and started my first grow in the woods. Get yourself a modest grow set up and learn how to grow from start to finish on a smaller personal scale. Learn as much as you can from forums like this one. Profit will be small in money but rich in experience. The best thing is if you still want to proceed with Option One you can but with your eyes wide open and confident in your abilities.

If you decide to go with option one right now. If you don't lift weights, start. Learn Krav Maga if you can.
Never post an accurate description of your large grow op on any websites. When you send stuff out on the internet you can not take it back. Who do you think the police or thieves would be more interested in? Little John with his 4-5 plants or Big John with his thousands of dollars of weed and grow equipment. Police can and will take your laptop, phone whatever. When you try to say it was my first time in court and the states enters 3 years of grow journals from your laptop as evidence of your continuing criminal enterprise it will suck.
Instead of having one massive basket with all your eggs in it that will look impressive on the evening news as the cops are loading all into vans along with you and your buddies. Spread it out, lots of small grows here and there. No heavy time for small grows no leverage to turn your partners against you. No heavy financial loss if one get popped. It is about the profit to risk ratio.

I wish you the best of luck in whatever you choose to do with your life.

Cheers,
Will
I was 18 once and went with option 1. I'm 23 now and been to prison twice.

Now I'm out doing option 2. Things can go real south and real unexpected when a third party you didn't even tell robs your house than rats out on you to save his own ass after he gets busted. For something you didn't even do.

Risks to think about when calculating risk/profit.
 

Gquebed

Well-Known Member
Hello,

Long time reader, first time poster here.

I am aware that there is no straight forward answer to this and any estimates are purely that, just estimates.

Below are images of the set-up (digital images, not photographs - For security reasons). Imagine the lights on the ceiling are 600w "Cool Tube" HPS lights with red spectrum bulbs.View attachment 3521234View attachment 3521235 View attachment 3521236 View attachment 3521237

The walls are lined with Mylar and the plants are evenly spaced. There is 1 x 600w HPS light, with red spectrum bulbs for every 4.7 plants - Making 47 plants in total.

Other details that may be pertinent.

Strain: Dr Krispin - The Incredible Bulk
Pots: 15 Litre - drain holes in the bottom with 2 inches of coarse gravel
Grow Medium: Canna Coco Soil? (I think)
Ambient Temp: 22ºC // 74ºF
Ambient Humidity: 33% - 35% humidity - Varies hour to hour, not sure why...
Lighting: 10 x 600w "Cool Tube" HPS - Red spectrum Bulbs
Veg Time: 5 Weeks (35 days)
Height at time of 12/12: 36" (2.5 Feet)
Nutes etc: Canna Boost / A/B


Now, This is the first grow I have put money into and been involved in, however, we have a gentleman working with me/us that has done 50+ over the past 5 years (mostly smaller, 12 - 20 plants). He is stating that he can, with quite a degree of certainty yield over 5oz per plant - Giving a total of: 235 Oz // 6.5 kg.

Everything I have ever read says that people very, very, very rarely drop anything over 2oz per plant... But 1g per W of light is more than achievable (which, again, doesn't seem to make sense?)

As we have 6000w - which should be 6 kg (acceptable dried yield for us)... but the 2 oz per plant figure only equals 94oz // 2.6 kg.


So, long story short - Is 5 ounces realistic considering this guy is a relatively experienced grower - with our set-up.

Spank you muchly in advance.

-Naaa
50 grows in 5 years?

WTF am i doing wrong?
 

Picard

Member
Hello,

Long time reader, first time poster here.

I am aware that there is no straight forward answer to this and any estimates are purely that, just estimates.

Below are images of the set-up (digital images, not photographs - For security reasons). Imagine the lights on the ceiling are 600w "Cool Tube" HPS lights with red spectrum bulbs.View attachment 3521234View attachment 3521235 View attachment 3521236 View attachment 3521237

The walls are lined with Mylar and the plants are evenly spaced. There is 1 x 600w HPS light, with red spectrum bulbs for every 4.7 plants - Making 47 plants in total.

Other details that may be pertinent.

Strain: Dr Krispin - The Incredible Bulk
Pots: 15 Litre - drain holes in the bottom with 2 inches of coarse gravel
Grow Medium: Canna Coco Soil? (I think)
Ambient Temp: 22ºC // 74ºF
Ambient Humidity: 33% - 35% humidity - Varies hour to hour, not sure why...
Lighting: 10 x 600w "Cool Tube" HPS - Red spectrum Bulbs
Veg Time: 5 Weeks (35 days)
Height at time of 12/12: 36" (2.5 Feet)
Nutes etc: Canna Boost / A/B


Now, This is the first grow I have put money into and been involved in, however, we have a gentleman working with me/us that has done 50+ over the past 5 years (mostly smaller, 12 - 20 plants). He is stating that he can, with quite a degree of certainty yield over 5oz per plant - Giving a total of: 235 Oz // 6.5 kg.

Everything I have ever read says that people very, very, very rarely drop anything over 2oz per plant... But 1g per W of light is more than achievable (which, again, doesn't seem to make sense?)

As we have 6000w - which should be 6 kg (acceptable dried yield for us)... but the 2 oz per plant figure only equals 94oz // 2.6 kg.


So, long story short - Is 5 ounces realistic considering this guy is a relatively experienced grower - with our set-up.

Spank you muchly in advance.

-Naaa
My mate just had 280 ounces with 12 _600w has bone dry ak48
 

Picard

Member
Hello,

Long time reader, first time poster here.

I am aware that there is no straight forward answer to this and any estimates are purely that, just estimates.

Below are images of the set-up (digital images, not photographs - For security reasons). Imagine the lights on the ceiling are 600w "Cool Tube" HPS lights with red spectrum bulbs.View attachment 3521234View attachment 3521235 View attachment 3521236 View attachment 3521237

The walls are lined with Mylar and the plants are evenly spaced. There is 1 x 600w HPS light, with red spectrum bulbs for every 4.7 plants - Making 47 plants in total.

Other details that may be pertinent.

Strain: Dr Krispin - The Incredible Bulk
Pots: 15 Litre - drain holes in the bottom with 2 inches of coarse gravel
Grow Medium: Canna Coco Soil? (I think)
Ambient Temp: 22ºC // 74ºF
Ambient Humidity: 33% - 35% humidity - Varies hour to hour, not sure why...
Lighting: 10 x 600w "Cool Tube" HPS - Red spectrum Bulbs
Veg Time: 5 Weeks (35 days)
Height at time of 12/12: 36" (2.5 Feet)
Nutes etc: Canna Boost / A/B


Now, This is the first grow I have put money into and been involved in, however, we have a gentleman working with me/us that has done 50+ over the past 5 years (mostly smaller, 12 - 20 plants). He is stating that he can, with quite a degree of certainty yield over 5oz per plant - Giving a total of: 235 Oz // 6.5 kg.

Everything I have ever read says that people very, very, very rarely drop anything over 2oz per plant... But 1g per W of light is more than achievable (which, again, doesn't seem to make sense?)

As we have 6000w - which should be 6 kg (acceptable dried yield for us)... but the 2 oz per plant figure only equals 94oz // 2.6 kg.


So, long story short - Is 5 ounces realistic considering this guy is a relatively experienced grower - with our set-up.

Spank you muchly in advance.

-Naaa
You got a great setup my mate just had 280 ounces bone dry ak48 using 12 HPS your Temps are spot on air pots are the one you get bigger yields faster growth try low stress training you,ll get loads
 

Naaa

New Member
Thanks for all the replies folks.

We started flowering 10 days ago and they have gotten huge!

The guy has just been sentenced to 6 months in prison for some previous grow that was raided.. So he is out of the question now.

Trying to do this my self....... I am really hoping for 0.4g per watt dry weight now... That will bring all the money back that is spent + a drink.

I'll post some pictures for you tomorrow.
 

Bigozgood

Member
About a pound times ten.


Its hard to say. To many variables for an accurate estimate. Also, gram per watt doesn't mean anything. How long you veg does. If I get .5 in half the time you get 1 gpw its the same.
I thought if they were growing outdoors the could get more then 5 ounces per plant, but indoors, maybe not. Height+light+Good grower= 5 ounces per plant. But what do I know... I am a newbie.
 

Modest-rookie

New Member
Thanks for all the replies folks.

We started flowering 10 days ago and they have gotten huge!

The guy has just been sentenced to 6 months in prison for some previous grow that was raided.. So he is out of the question now.

Trying to do this my self....... I am really hoping for 0.4g per watt dry weight now... That will bring all the money back that is spent + a drink.

I'll post some pictures for you tomorrow.
How did it go?
 

Oliver Pantsoff

Well-Known Member
With average skiils, moderate yielding strain, and proper environment you should be able to yield 10 P's minimum. I used to run 600's with waterfarms back in 02. I was pulling more than my buddies using 1000 watters in soil...

OP
 
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