Justin-case
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Smoke our way out of a recession? Sounds like fun, lol
11/9 the day legal pot died
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Smoke our way out of a recession? Sounds like fun, lol
Justin-case
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Pre Obama prices!
cat of curiosity
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that would be a discount in my area, cheapest locally is 4800lb, and that's only if you know somebody...
and that's under obama, btw, has been for eight years...
doublejj
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I posted this thread now so that all the trump supports can go on record & we can talk about it next year
pm me....
Justin-case
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We went from 4800 to 12,11,10 even as low as 9.
roseypeach
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last year
420God
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And if you are a millionaire by then you're sharing with us, right?I posted this thread now so that all the trump supports can go on record & we can talk about it next year
pm me....
cat of curiosity
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for the record, i am disgusted by this whole fiasco. everyone i voted for was the best for potentially legalizing pot in my area. i'm not leaving my home, but it would be nice to not have to look over my shoulder for doing something that is illegal for me, and legal for others...I posted this thread now so that all the trump supports can go on record & we can talk about it next year
pm me....
This is the EXACT reason why the feds used my phone to try to contact you.pm me....
Good luck, it's really not that bad.
doublejj
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I know, it was a joke bro...
The_Activist
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Forget about the decriminalization of marijuana for a moment and think about this; according to the D.E.A website. the criteria for a Schedule 1 drug are as follows.
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
So where are the studies that show that alcohol does not have a “high potential for abuse?” What “currently accepted medical use” does it have? I have never been offered alcohol while in the hospital, nor have I ever been prescribed it.
Why isn’t alcohol a Schedule 1 drug and perhaps more importantly why is it not scheduled at all? It’s not even a Schedule V drug – their lowest level. Not on it at all.
Is it just about the money it generates; or is it that we as a society are willing to accept a pretty high level of pain in our pursuit of intoxication? Did I mention the most deadly substance abused is not on the list either – tobacco.
Like many things human, there seems to be no logical answer.
• 5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are attributed to alcohol.
• 15% of all deaths from diseases of the respiratory system are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all deaths from accidents caused by fire and flames are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all accidental drownings are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all suicides are attributed to alcohol.
• 40% of all deaths due to accidental falls are attributed to alcohol.
• 45% of all deaths in automobile accidents are attributed to alcohol.
• 60% of all homicides are attributed to alcohol
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(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
So where are the studies that show that alcohol does not have a “high potential for abuse?” What “currently accepted medical use” does it have? I have never been offered alcohol while in the hospital, nor have I ever been prescribed it.
Why isn’t alcohol a Schedule 1 drug and perhaps more importantly why is it not scheduled at all? It’s not even a Schedule V drug – their lowest level. Not on it at all.
Is it just about the money it generates; or is it that we as a society are willing to accept a pretty high level of pain in our pursuit of intoxication? Did I mention the most deadly substance abused is not on the list either – tobacco.
Like many things human, there seems to be no logical answer.
• 5% of all deaths from diseases of the circulatory system are attributed to alcohol.
• 15% of all deaths from diseases of the respiratory system are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all deaths from accidents caused by fire and flames are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all accidental drownings are attributed to alcohol.
• 30% of all suicides are attributed to alcohol.
• 40% of all deaths due to accidental falls are attributed to alcohol.
• 45% of all deaths in automobile accidents are attributed to alcohol.
• 60% of all homicides are attributed to alcohol
http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.html#pbid=a637d53c5c0a43c7bf4e342886b9d8b0&ec=w5MjlxbjpLDonH49voRJG8ylgyBI0SZx&docUrl=http://discoveringalcoholic.com/why-isnt-alcohol-a-schedule-i-drug/
NLXSK1
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Based on the above 3 it should be de-scheduled. It does not have a safety component (except it makes idiots stupider) and does have medical use. What would it take to get it de-scheduled?
doublejj
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Chris Christie....
Bingo! Hey this Trump thingy might not be so bad after all..I can live with making $4k for a P couldn't you?I'm making plans for $4,000lb pot again....
Are you in Colo? Did you hear it too? No more Croptober.
doublejj
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no I'm in caliBingo! Hey this Trump thingy might not be so bad after all..I can live with making $4k for a P couldn't you?
Are you in Colo? Did you hear it too? No more Croptober.
londonfog
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Whats your view with Trump position on the Dodd-Frank Act. How do you think this hurt or help you.
I know your dumb ass is clueless to what I'm asking so I will give you a few to read up on it
londonfog
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says the guy who claims to making 288,000 or 150,000 a year inspecting homes.
The_Activist
Member
Federal law grants power to the US Attorney General to reclassify a controlled substance if the available scientific evidence no longer supports that drug’s classification. In practice, however, this power has been delegated to the DEA (who could lose funding if mariuana is legalized), with input from both FDA and the US Department of Health and Human Services. Federal law also allows third parties to petition these agencies to consider reclassifying controlled substances.
Reclassifying the pot plant from I to II (or even to schedule III) continues to misrepresent the plant’s safety relative to other controlled substances such as methamphetamine (schedule II), anabolic steroids (schedule III), or alcohol (unscheduled), and fails to provide states with the ability to fully regulate it free from federal interference.
In addition, the sort of gold-standard, large-scale, long-term Phase III safety and efficacy trials that are typically necessary prior to bringing therapeutic drugs to market are prohibitively expensive. As a result, trials of this kind are typically funded by private pharmaceutical companies aspiring to bring a new product to market. In some cases, the federal government may assist in sharing these costs, such as was the case with the research and development of the synthetic THC pill Marinol (dronabinol). However, political reality dictates that neither entity is likely to pony up the tens of millions of dollars necessary to conduct such trials assessing the efficacy of herbal cannabis any time soon, if ever, regardless of the plant’s federal scheduling
This is not to say that rescheduling cannabis would not have any positive tangible effects. At a minimum, it would bring an end to the federal government’s longstanding intellectual dishonesty that marijuana ‘lacks accepted medical use.’ It would also likely permit banks and other financial institutions to work with state-compliant marijuana-related businesses, and permit employers in the cannabis industry to take tax deductions similar to those enjoyed by other businesses. Rescheduling would also likely bring some level of relief to federal employees subject to random workplace drug testing for off-the-job cannabis consumption.
But ultimately, such a change would do little to significantly loosen federal prohibition or to make herbal cannabis readily accessible for clinical study. These goals can arguably only be accomplished by federally decsheduling cannabis in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco, such as is proposed by US Senate Bill 2237, The Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act and by H.R.1013 - Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act.
Bernie Sanders' bill has no cosponsors, a year after proposal. After Tuesday’s election, one in five Americans will live in a state where recreational marijuana is legal. Time for the federal government to catch up.
Reclassifying the pot plant from I to II (or even to schedule III) continues to misrepresent the plant’s safety relative to other controlled substances such as methamphetamine (schedule II), anabolic steroids (schedule III), or alcohol (unscheduled), and fails to provide states with the ability to fully regulate it free from federal interference.
In addition, the sort of gold-standard, large-scale, long-term Phase III safety and efficacy trials that are typically necessary prior to bringing therapeutic drugs to market are prohibitively expensive. As a result, trials of this kind are typically funded by private pharmaceutical companies aspiring to bring a new product to market. In some cases, the federal government may assist in sharing these costs, such as was the case with the research and development of the synthetic THC pill Marinol (dronabinol). However, political reality dictates that neither entity is likely to pony up the tens of millions of dollars necessary to conduct such trials assessing the efficacy of herbal cannabis any time soon, if ever, regardless of the plant’s federal scheduling
This is not to say that rescheduling cannabis would not have any positive tangible effects. At a minimum, it would bring an end to the federal government’s longstanding intellectual dishonesty that marijuana ‘lacks accepted medical use.’ It would also likely permit banks and other financial institutions to work with state-compliant marijuana-related businesses, and permit employers in the cannabis industry to take tax deductions similar to those enjoyed by other businesses. Rescheduling would also likely bring some level of relief to federal employees subject to random workplace drug testing for off-the-job cannabis consumption.
But ultimately, such a change would do little to significantly loosen federal prohibition or to make herbal cannabis readily accessible for clinical study. These goals can arguably only be accomplished by federally decsheduling cannabis in a manner similar to alcohol and tobacco, such as is proposed by US Senate Bill 2237, The Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act and by H.R.1013 - Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol Act.
Bernie Sanders' bill has no cosponsors, a year after proposal. After Tuesday’s election, one in five Americans will live in a state where recreational marijuana is legal. Time for the federal government to catch up.
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