150w HPS Club: Inspirational Resource

ReelFiles

ReelFiles

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The problem with the 150W HPS lights is that they can only supply sufficient light for up to 12" away. After that your plants are only getting a quarter of light. So say you gotta keep the bulb 4-6' away from the tops, you only have another 6-8" of penetration into the canopy, before the light diminishes too much. So you probably would be better off starting 12/12 straight from seed or after a few days of veg, like you said.
 
jpnspec

jpnspec

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hey everyone,

im almost 2 weeks into flower with my 3 plants under a 150 watt hps and some CFL's. Thought I'd share this will you all, peace.

link below for my current Master Kush/Aurora Indica/Mango grow.
 
dingbang

dingbang

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1foryou said:
hey guys i plan on growing 7 small plants under a 150w hps,veg for about 2 weeks then flower.do you think i can get at least 10 grams a plant??
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I don't know why people are telling you that you can't do this because you most definitely can. I grow 12-16 plants, in a perpetual SOG vegged for about two weeks under a single 150. My current strain is known for being a low yielding phenotype and I can still get 8-14 grams per plant.

Your strains growth patterns, your growing media and how you transition into flowering are the considerations.

If you want valuable first hand accounts on how maximize your 150's potential then browse ICMag's 150 thread.

Good luck!
 
ReelFiles

ReelFiles

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dingbang said:
Besides the ones in this thread and in my albums?:wink:
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Well given your plants look ok, for your setup, but you fail to mention that you had to add an additional 3 CFL bulbs. Also you said yourself this is your first attempt, so you have never actually completed any harvests with this setup yet. Just figured those are things you should mention when you comment like that.

 
ReelFiles

ReelFiles

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LOL, sorry dude, but you just can't go around giving advice without proof to back it up. I wouldn't want this guy to go out and buy a 150Watter, wait 3-4 months to find out that he should have gotten 400W light instead.
 
1foryou

1foryou

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ReelFiles said:
LOL, sorry dude, but you just can't go around giving advice without proof to back it up. I wouldn't want this guy to go out and buy a 150Watter, wait 3-4 months to find out that he should have gotten 400W light instead.
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lol man i needed a good laugh.im only into growing micro style so im not to worried about yield just though it would be nice to know since this will be my 1st hps grow.shit ive done 5 plants in miracle gro moisture control soil no transplanting in small containers(auto flower) under 4 cfls 23w 1600 lumens each in a pc case.19 grams total.3.8 grams a plant.my math is probly wrong but thats a lil over 6,000 lumens total.my 150w hps mini is 16,000 lumens.like i said in a few weeks i will keep you guys updated.a TRUE single 150w hps grow with multiple plants(5 strawberry smile,1 trainwreck,1 iced grapefruit all female)
 
dingbang

dingbang

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Look, I think internet fights are for people who aren't really living and need to feel some sort of power over something. Neither one of us are that lame now are we? So we don't need to try to play the "call each other out" game, do we?

Maybe you don't believe me about my grow? Oh well. Look on the the 150w thread on ICMAG and try tell me that my claims are impossible. I am only here to learn and share the little knowledge I have and I hope that's your purpose also.

Have you ever tried to get 10 grams per 6 or more plants under a 150? If not then you shouldn't have taken the time to discourage someone else from a potentially profitable undertaking.

Besides the fact that with 7 plants at 10gr per plant is only .466 grams per watt. Some may consider that ambitious for a first timer but that's weak by any other standard and most definitely surpasable under a 150.

So let's put the bullshit behind us and move on to helping people grow more herb and have fun doing so.

1foryou: I would recommend using a quality bagged soil if this is your first go at it. If you buy Fox Farms Happy Frog for example then you have a hundred or more users here who can share their experiences with it and it therefore eliminating a lot of guesswork for potential plant problems. The second bet option would be coco I think but have yet to see determining results.

Depending on the strain I would consider Low Stress Training or topping to get the most out of every plant.

Proper ventilation of your grow area is as important to your yields as your lux is, so plan ahead and ask questions before buying fans or blowers.

Go as large as you can with your plants containers given the lights functional footprint and your method of ventilation.

There are obvious trade offs in simplicity versus efficiency but I think you can exceed your expectations with proper planning.

Let me know if I can help any further.

Good luck!
 
ReelFiles

ReelFiles

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dingbang said:
Look, I think internet fights are for people who aren't really living and need to feel some sort of power over something. Neither one of us are that lame now are we? So we don't need to try to play the "call each other out" game, do we?

Maybe you don't believe me about my grow? Oh well. Look on the the 150w thread on ICMAG and try tell me that my claims are impossible. I am only here to learn and share the little knowledge I have and I hope that's your purpose also.

Have you ever tried to get 10 grams per 6 or more plants under a 150? If not then you shouldn't have taken the time to discourage someone else from a potentially profitable undertaking.

Besides the fact that with 7 plants at 10gr per plant is only .466 grams per watt. Some may consider that ambitious for a first timer but that's weak by any other standard and most definitely surpasable under a 150.

So let's put the bullshit behind us and move on to helping people grow more herb and have fun doing so.

1foryou: I would recommend using a quality bagged soil if this is your first go at it. If you buy Fox Farms Happy Frog for example then you have a hundred or more users here who can share their experiences with it and it therefore eliminating a lot of guesswork for potential plant problems. The second bet option would be coco I think but have yet to see determining results.

Depending on the strain I would consider Low Stress Training or topping to get the most out of every plant.

Proper ventilation of your grow area is as important to your yields as your lux is, so plan ahead and ask questions before buying fans or blowers.

Go as large as you can with your plants containers given the lights functional footprint and your method of ventilation.

There are obvious trade offs in simplicity versus efficiency but I think you can exceed your expectations with proper planning.

Let me know if I can help any further.

Good luck!
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Not trying to say it doesn't work for you, but I wouldn't recommend it to somebody else. Look at my Old Juicy Fruit thread if you wanna see what you can do growing 2 24" plants each under their own 150WHPS light, and it's a lot less work than taking care of 16 plants. Like I said I am not here to argue, just trying to give proper advice.



That''s just the main colas.
 
1foryou

1foryou

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dingbang said:
Look, I think internet fights are for people who aren't really living and need to feel some sort of power over something. Neither one of us are that lame now are we? So we don't need to try to play the "call each other out" game, do we?

Maybe you don't believe me about my grow? Oh well. Look on the the 150w thread on ICMAG and try tell me that my claims are impossible. I am only here to learn and share the little knowledge I have and I hope that's your purpose also.

Have you ever tried to get 10 grams per 6 or more plants under a 150? If not then you shouldn't have taken the time to discourage someone else from a potentially profitable undertaking.

Besides the fact that with 7 plants at 10gr per plant is only .466 grams per watt. Some may consider that ambitious for a first timer but that's weak by any other standard and most definitely surpasable under a 150.

So let's put the bullshit behind us and move on to helping people grow more herb and have fun doing so.

1foryou: I would recommend using a quality bagged soil if this is your first go at it. If you buy Fox Farms Happy Frog for example then you have a hundred or more users here who can share their experiences with it and it therefore eliminating a lot of guesswork for potential plant problems. The second bet option would be coco I think but have yet to see determining results.

Depending on the strain I would consider Low Stress Training or topping to get the most out of every plant.

Proper ventilation of your grow area is as important to your yields as your lux is, so plan ahead and ask questions before buying fans or blowers.

Go as large as you can with your plants containers given the lights functional footprint and your method of ventilation.

There are obvious trade offs in simplicity versus efficiency but I think you can exceed your expectations with proper planning.

Let me know if I can help any further.

Good luck!
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i know its possible just like ppl say you cant flower in 16oz cup without rootbound and ive proved that shit to be wrong.this is just my 1st hps grow ive had great success with cfls.i dont think he was fight with you he was just getting his point across so where you.thx both of you guys. now blaze up n chill outbongsmilie
 
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sin semilla

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Hey everyone. Thought Id try my luck here. New to the club. New to growing. New to scrog. I am doing this on a super tight budget. So its a little here and a little there as I can aford it.

My set up is as follows:

2.5'Tx2.5'w1.5'D

150W Hps w/ simple open air reflector

Screen set at 12" from floor

Fan blowing across top of screen

Mix of FFOF,MG Organic potting mix,generic
time release soil mix

2 gal. pots

Vegging 24/0

83 cfm exhaust(soon to be mated to a can 9000)

Intake on opposit side of box(travels through stem area)

Watering with mineral water and superthrive( frist time today)(just transplanted)

Fox farm nutes to be ordered

Trimming large fan leaves to alow light in

Total of 3 plants(sex unknow, trying frist atempt at cloning so I can sex)

Topped

Clones in clone dome, setting on heating mat

Rooting with jiffy pellets and spraying with superthrive water and rooting hormone(they look like crap, today was frist full real day)

All 3 from seed(unknown kind bag seed)

1 is 5.5 wks old
2 are 4.5ish wks old
4 more from seed 2/17

Temp is mid 80s
Rh is 50ish

Cant wait to get the nutes,filter,Ph up and down, and a Ph h2o meter and really get things rollin.

Let be know what all you veterans think please and I would love some feedback, thoughts, recomendations or to know if you see anything wrong. thanks for all the help

PS
To the scroggers, how much strech are you getting durning flower? I plan to do some training in the early strech till they stop growing and focus on budding....is that ok?
 

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Shackleford.R

Shackleford.R

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you're going to run into problems if you've already worked 3 plants of unknown sex into your screen. hope for 3 females or you're going to have a hell of a time cutting males out of that screen. although, everything looks very well thought out, so i wish you the best of luck. i love SCROoG and haven't tried it yet, i'd like to see what a 150HPS can do in these size/screen restraints.

:peace:
Shack
 
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sin semilla

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Shackleford.R said:
you're going to run into problems if you've already worked 3 plants of unknown sex into your screen. hope for 3 females or you're going to have a hell of a time cutting males out of that screen. although, everything looks very well thought out, so i wish you the best of luck. i love SCROoG and haven't tried it yet, i'd like to see what a 150HPS can do in these size/screen restraints.

:peace:
Shack
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I can only hope for 3 ladies, that would be awesome. I dont think it will be to hard remove the males im not weaving the plant int to the screen, just helping it pick the correct holes. I can also rase the screen for easyer removal. I hope my clones make it so I can sex them frist before flipping to 12/12 in my main box. thanks for your reply and keep them comen people.
 
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