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coonword

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hey bkb i the only thing i notcied you didnt cover in that very lovely post was when i test my ph run off to get my soil ph what should the soil ph be at all times this feb issue of hightimes says that it must read 6.2 actually gives a nice lil graph and the page is called phiguring out ph deff recommend checking it out!! even though your post covered everything i need to know the hightimes didnt it was more tech. in ph but deff a good read!!!
 

bekindbud

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hey bkb i the only thing i notcied you didnt cover in that very lovely post was when i test my ph run off to get my soil ph what should the soil ph be at all times this feb issue of hightimes says that it must read 6.2 actually gives a nice lil graph and the page is called phiguring out ph deff recommend checking it out!! even though your post covered everything i need to know the hightimes didnt it was more tech. in ph but deff a good read!!!
Honestly the 1st time I flushed my plant when I had a lockout it was at 8.4 after that evertime I flush feed my plant its always around 6.8-7.0. Dont forget when soil is wet and dry there could be different pH readings. Well thats what I had when I would test my soil. I am a nOOb. But if you have Dolomite Lime in your soil it will always buff your pH levels. See thats why I make it rain cause you flush everything out your soil and start fresh when feeding nutes. I dont want to be jacking B16's Grow Journal so if you want to continue this you can ask the good peeps on my Journal so we dont take away from my man B16s grow.

Sorry B16 not trying to jack your thread bro!!!!

BKB
 

bekindbud

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lol i dont care i wana learn everything i can
Well yesterday i made a thread on cloning, it was my 1st attempt cloning. I learn a ton from people on my threads and I always encourage them to post what they want even pics too. I love learning from others. Hey I was thinking about your situation....You might want to try this bro, I dont know if it will work but its worth the try:
-Take some bottle water (hoping and should be pretty Nuetral at 7.0ph.)
-Put your plant in a bowl or over a bowl(to catch the run-off)
-Feed your plant the bottled water and catch the immediate run-off from your plant's container. Just make sure you have a little run-off.
-Next take the run-off that you caught in the bowl and put it inside a plastic party cup and cover it or you can use a jar or whatever. Just make sure whatever you use its clean and dry before putting run-off in it.
- Go to a pet store like Petco Pet Smart or a local Pet store and tell them you are setting up a fish tank and you want the water that you have tested for pH, play dumb like you dont know what your doing. They will test it for you, trust me! Now when they give you your pH results here is what I was thinking. I pH'd a bottle of Arrowhead Water in a bottle and its 7pH so if the pet store guy says your water is 6pH then you need to think your soil is actually lower than 6 because you used 7pH to get the run-off so your soil pH is prolly around 5pH if that makes sense?

Try it and see if it works, do some research like call a pet store and ask if you brought some water in can they show you how to test the pH and see if you can get away with it. That is a way you can see what your soil pH is at. I think some Hydro stores will do it too not sure. Worth a try though.

here is my thread on Cloning: https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/394296-noobs-1st-attempt-cloning-chocolope.html

Hope that helps

BKB
 

B16

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oh i just bought the ph control kit from an awesome store near by i just found,the one with the ph up and down bottles. I did just that and the water was yellow and the run off was yellow green so its been to high for sure seeing how my water ive been using was green!(when i tested it) so i soaked them in ph 6.0 water and im waiting now to see what happens
 

coonword

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what colors does your chart read?? mine read blue for 7 and higher yellowish gree for 6.4 and yellow for 6 by the sounds of it im guessing your colors are differnet
 

B16

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eight bucks! and the guy said that the ph pens suck and to just buy what i did and check the run off as well, unless you wana buy those ones that cost hundreds. or you can get in om amazon.com for like 15 bucks shipped i think
 

bekindbud

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View attachment 1338502View attachment 1338503red is 4.0 yellow is 6.0-6.5 and green blue goes to 9.0
You know whats funny B16 that chart you got is almost the same as the one I posted on your pH meter thread...LOL Ok so yes you did have a pH problem it seems so that means that some of the nutes didnt get to your plant cause it was locked out. Look at your chart, I cant really read it cuz its blurrrrrrrry. LOL but i bet the best available area for pH and the nute uptake is 6.5??? If I were you, you need to flush your plant bro...Seriously, before you do it listen to what I am going to tell you. Since you have to flush your plant and you really do cause you probably got some serious salt build up in there too. We will do making it rain on that plant and you will see how it works and how your plant responds to it. 1st I need to know how big exactly is your Plants container? I also need to know what was your last feeding of nutes that you gave your plant? Also the nutes and the N-P-K ratio of those nutes you gave your Plant and then we will get her fixed and hopefully fully recovered in a week. Just remember it will take a couple of days to recove so be patient. Not sure if I spelled that correctly. LOL

BKB
 

B16

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well i just did a mini make it rain thing yesterday, you think i should wait till the soil drys again see what happens bc they dont look that bad only the bottom two leaves. but the last nutes they got was big bloom which is 0.01-0.3-0.7 and the pots are like 5 inchs tall and 4-5 inchs wide at the top and 3" at the bottom
 

bekindbud

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well i just did a mini make it rain thing yesterday, you think i should wait till the soil drys again see what happens bc they dont look that bad only the bottom two leaves. but the last nutes they got was big bloom which is 0.01-0.3-0.7 and the pots are like 5 inchs tall and 4-5 inchs wide at the top and 3" at the bottom
Yes we will wait when your container becomes light again or ready to be fed let me know so I can tell you how to do it correctly. How much water did you flush it with. I would recommend you find out exactly the size of your container, go to the store and compare abd find out the size. Cause when u flush you have to flush 3 times the amount your container size. If your good with volume math then maybe you can solve your container size with those measurements....I barely passed Algebra
 

B16

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thanks man ill let you know and i need to find out how much water is 3 times my pot sizes?
 

bekindbud

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thanks man ill let you know and i need to find out how much water is 3 times my pot sizes?
If your container is 1 gallon then you will need 3 gallons to flush correctly. So if your container is 5 gallons then you will need 15 gallons of water, hope that explains.

BKB
 

B16

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on female preflowers do the pistols show first? or maybe a leaf looking thing first then the pistols
 

B16

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IMG_0432.jpg here one of the widows its the topped one, the fimmed one was a male:evil: but idk what this one is just yet, after the mini flush i did with the correst ph the widow seems to be getting a little better, the leafs are going up more and the yellow on the bottom slowed down

IMG_0433.jpgIMG_0434.jpg This is the bagseed doing awesome and definitely a girl, shes got pistols all over the place i think i counted 16 spots. the lights are still on 18/6, im trying to get and better camera ill have one soon but heres the bottom leaves that are messed up and a close up blurry pit of the pistols
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also i wanted to ask if anyone thought this branch was big enough to clone, this branch doesnt has pistols on it yet, idk if that effects anything as far as budding rigth away
IMG_0439.jpgits about 3inches long
 

bekindbud

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View attachment 1341201 here one of the widows its the topped one, the fimmed one was a male:evil: but idk what this one is just yet, after the mini flush i did with the correst ph the widow seems to be getting a little better, the leafs are going up more and the yellow on the bottom slowed down

View attachment 1341204View attachment 1341205 This is the bagseed doing awesome and definitely a girl, shes got pistols all over the place i think i counted 16 spots. the lights are still on 18/6, im trying to get and better camera ill have one soon but heres the bottom leaves that are messed up and a close up blurry pit of the pistols
View attachment 1341206View attachment 1341207

also i wanted to ask if anyone thought this branch was big enough to clone, this branch doesnt has pistols on it yet, idk if that effects anything as far as budding rigth away
View attachment 1341209its about 3inches long
B16,

I would NOT clone it yet cause you want to make sure its in real good shape and healthy before cloning. I still highly recommend you flush your plants but only when they are reasy to be watered again. You need to have a clean slate in all those containers. Seems they have a moistutre stress and some are looking kind of Dark in Green, not sure if its the camera but it could be that your container might have too much "N" I say that cause I have the same things going on with my plant. It has too much "N" which makes your plant darker in color and can also curl your leaves which look like they are already. You might want to check into that. I honestly believe if you flush your plants lie I told you, you will see a big difference in them with in a couple of days. Keep up the good work bro and I hope i made some sense.

Here is a pic of my plant that has too much "N", I was expiermenting with the nutes to see what my plant can handle so now I am flushing her right now today and you will see what I am talking about. I will post pics when done flushing and show you the difference in my plant if its ok to post that on your thread?

See how dark in color and the clawing leaves? Too much "N".

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PS I see you got Black Ops, i got it too on my Crap Box 360!

BKB
 

B16

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lol ok i found out my pot size is one qt it says on the bottom of the pots lol, so explain to me how to do this please, what will it do to the plants, and where do i go from there as far as nutes, im using the foxfarm trio
 
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