1600Kw vertical grow tent. Hybrid Aero/RDWC build.

I bet the bag seed is the craziest, it has it's hybrid vigor. Keep an eye out for signs of sexing. It may be a good idea to start cloning the larger plants for sex if possible. They make good clones in general when you are in a growth spurt like this. Obviously your store-bought genetics are more stable and are going a little more slow, and are not ready for cloning. I think with net pots that big you might even want a drip ring, I'm starting to think, so your elite genetics can keep up.

Anyways, I'm probably going to set up my own vertical veg room today. Probably not going to use any hydroponics in it. I'm already in soiless, but I have really been wanting to get back to hydroponics. I hated the upkeep, but I love the lack of mess, not to mention, the physical labor with hydro is just less physical.

Jozikins said:

I bet the bag seed is the craziest, it has it's hybrid vigor. Keep an eye out for signs of sexing. It may be a good idea to start cloning the larger plants for sex if possible. They make good clones in general when you are in a growth spurt like this. Obviously your store-bought genetics are more stable and are going a little more slow, and are not ready for cloning. I think with net pots that big you might even want a drip ring, I'm starting to think, so your elite genetics can keep up.

Anyways, I'm probably going to set up my own vertical veg room today. Probably not going to use any hydroponics in it. I'm already in soiless, but I have really been wanting to get back to hydroponics. I hated the upkeep, but I love the lack of mess, not to mention, the physical labor with hydro is just less physical.

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I agree its less physical. You can do a set it and forget it...Well kind of. I have some drip for the plants in the big net pots and they really love it. They responded very well to them actually. Im going to do a rez change early in the morning also. I need to up the PPM's. I will just wait until I flip to flower and add the other 600w light.

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I agree its less physical. You can do a set it and forget it...Well kind of. I have some drip for the plants in the big net pots and they really love it. They responded very well to them actually. Im going to do a rez change early in the morning also. I need to up the PPM's. I will just wait until I flip to flower and add the other 600w light.

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Friggin' sweet. I think holding off on the other 600w until flower is a good idea.

Jozikins said:

Friggin' sweet. I think holding off on the other 600w until flower is a good idea.

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Great thats what I was thinking! Come Monday I will switch to flower.

Day 31

Those roots are a little too brown compared to what you had, what are your rest temps? And how often are you changing res? It should be at least once every two weeks.

Still pretty healthy though, do you have any enzyme products?

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Those roots are a little too brown compared to what you had, what are your rest temps? And how often are you changing res? It should be at least once every two weeks.

Still pretty healthy though, do you have any enzyme products?

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I just did a rez change 3 days ago. I have been doing a change every 10 days as instructed. The reason the roots are that color is because I just put in 3 gallons of Heisenberg Tea in the system. I was a little heavy on the Ancient Forest on this batch by mistake. It fouled a few of my sprayers but all is well now. I strained it using a fish tank net also. That stuff came out super dark but smelled so great. These plants are about 6 week old now from seed and I want to see some preflowers. Because it is pretty full in the tent. Can I still give them Grow nutes for 1 week into flower? Plus how do you feel about the 36 hour dark period before flowering stage? Your help has been so useful with this grow. A million thanks to you.

I know the roots in my pics are a bit concerning so here are some pics of the same roots that were rinsed with a bit of fresh water. Please note that I didnt rinse the top near the net pots. I did not want to stress the plants nor the bennies in that area. Not sure if it would have or not though.

Alright, this is my 666th post! Hail Satan.

You sir are correct. Your roots look great. The humic acid stains thew me off. You can give veg nutes during the first week of flower, some people advise it, I do not. I advise a really low strength flower formula with plenty of enzymes and beneficial organisms to suck up everything left from veg. After that I suggest continuing on with your plans in flower. I also think the 36 hour darkness period is a lot of bs. You will see faster results into flowering, I have seen it personally because I did this, but not by my own will, my power went out for 2 days... Fucking weak.... But I noticed my plants were stressed and stretched out more than anything, and I think just recovering from that stress added another week onto my flowering period.

You can always clone for sex, you could have your answer in as little as a week. Do you know how to clone for sex? It's just like normal cloning but you root them under 12/12 instead of the normal 18/6 or 24/0 cycle.

Dude I am more than happy to help you. You put some money and thought into your grow and you deserve good advise for being a good student and researching like you should have in the first place. I hope you do really well. You've already done a pretty good job of running with concepts I have trouble wrapping my head around.

Jozikins said:

Alright, this is my 666th post! Hail Satan.

You sir are correct. Your roots look great. The humic acid stains thew me off. You can give veg nutes during the first week of flower, some people advise it, I do not. I advise a really low strength flower formula with plenty of enzymes and beneficial organisms to suck up everything left from veg. After that I suggest continuing on with your plans in flower. I also think the 36 hour darkness period is a lot of bs. You will see faster results into flowering, I have seen it personally because I did this, but not by my own will, my power went out for 2 days... Fucking weak.... But I noticed my plants were stressed and stretched out more than anything, and I think just recovering from that stress added another week onto my flowering period.

You can always clone for sex, you could have your answer in as little as a week. Do you know how to clone for sex? It's just like normal cloning but you root them under 12/12 instead of the normal 18/6 or 24/0 cycle.

Dude I am more than happy to help you. You put some money and thought into your grow and you deserve good advise for being a good student and researching like you should have in the first place. I hope you do really well. You've already done a pretty good job of running with concepts I have trouble wrapping my head around.

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666 post! haha. Thanks for the comps. Well I just added another 600w in the tent. So that is a total of 1200 watts in the 5x5. I have one mh and one hps. I ran out of money and could not grab another hps bulb. Will that be a problem running different bulbs? I dont know how to clone at all. Can I just stick them in a glass of water? i am seeing some growth at the stipules where the pre-flowers form at but I dont know if the are developed enough to tell. I can post pics tomorrow if you want me to. Wont they show the sex in a week in the tent under flower? The flower period starts tomorrow.

Cloning is easy, remove a lower branch with a sharp razor and cut it at a 45 degree angle. Remove all but 3-4 nodes and stick it in cloning gel and into a rockwool cube. If you don't have cloning gel it is alright, they will root without it, but much slower. Normally we take a branch from the middle of the plant, our best and healthiest, but that is for producing our next generation, you are just going to put these under 12/12 until they start to flower and then throw them away, so a low cut is fine. Sounds like you won't have time to wait for them to root, however. Just keep a very close eye on them if you flower them all together. The males can develop their flowers much faster than the females can. I've seen pollen sacks form and open in only a few days time, sometimes they develop on different parts of the plants than you normally check and they can get you that way.
Just be careful, and all should be fine.

A MH/HPS combo is great. Some people actually purchase a MH set up just to balance the spectrum of their HPS. You should get great results with it, but remember that MH gives off less lumens than HPS, but with the same amount of electricity.

1st day of flower starts today. Wish me luck. haha. Im sure I will need it. The plants are all over a foot tall with the tallest ones being 22" or so. Well it is 2 seedling in the room but there are lost in the jungle somewhere. Oh yeah I took a stab at LST!

Flowering tips?...

Dang I made a mistake and burnt two leaves with a light when I was not paying attenting. Can I just trim that part off the leaf?

Yeah just cut that part off, it'll be fine. I like how the plants are enclosing that space so well, they should take up the whole room while flowering even if you half to cull out half of them after sexing.

I can't tell if they are male or female yet. You need to get a really good clear close up of the nodes near the middle of the plant. that whole region is usually where I see my first preflowers.

There seems to be a lot of 5x5 tents in my area for sail on craigslist, for cheap, I never payed any attention because I run horizontal 600w, but it seems perfect for 600w vertical. I think I might give it a try. I already bought a 4x4 tent to try scroging, and I am about to buy a 3x3 tent for moms and larger vegging plants... but I think I will put the scrog in the 3x3, because I only use 600w for flower, and I will veg and put moms and T5 in 4x4, and then vertical in the 5x5. Basically see if I can make more yield in the 3x3 with a compact "stealth" style like SCROG or a 5x5 ballsy vertical grow, which isn't so compact on this scale.

LST looks good though, if you keep the plants nice and healthy you are guaranteed a dank as fuck harvest.

You have maybe a day or two at the most to clone those things without the clones revegging on you. You are probably going to end up with some buds that you are going to fall in love with, but never be able to smoke again unless you take a clone. Or it could just be an amazingly easy plant to deal with and high yielding. Either way, you better do it before it's too late. In my opinion, revegged clones are garbage.

My best tip for flowering is keep your RH around 40-45% and you probably shouldn't do anymore LST now that they have started to flower, at least not after the first week or two. Flowering is all about timing, you need to know what to add and when, and how much. For most 8-9 week flowering strains they eat the most between weeks 3-5, so at the start of week 6 we should start decreasing nutrients, if you aren't already flushing. I really don't feel a 2 week flush is necessary in DWC. 9 days is the longest I have ever gone in hydroponics, and that is pretty long. Some people do two weeks, but I don't know, it depends on you plant mostly, I suppose.

Also, now that they are in 12/12, all the shoots and stalks will stiffen up pretty quick, so don't fuck around with them too much, or you could snap a plant, I did that once to a SFV that was 2 or 3 weeks deep.

I will love to try my hand at cloning but I have to leave the state soon for a few months. So sadly I wont be able to start grow number 2 for a good while.They are starting to eat like crazy though. On friday I will start adding bloom nutes and get a microbe brew going. These things are loving the system. My ppm are at 624 now. They are drinking like crazy. Way over 5 gallons a day.

Lame. Blow off your responsibilities and keep growing pot! haha.

5 gallons a day is insane though. You got a green thumb, buddy.

just read through the thread. your shit looks nice man! very good for a first time.

where is the MH going to go? r u leaving the HPS vertical, or is that going horizontal? thatd be cool to have both bulbs vertical and next to eachother. theyd have to be on some sort of frame though so the wind doesnt smash the bulbs together haha. also if the frame spun back and forth, everyone would get blue and red spectrum

Jozikins said:

Lame. Blow off your responsibilities and keep growing pot! haha.

5 gallons a day is insane though. You got a green thumb, buddy.

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I wish it was that easy. LOl. I was hoping I did.

Luger187 said:

just read through the thread. your shit looks nice man! very good for a first time.

where is the MH going to go? r u leaving the HPS vertical, or is that going horizontal? thatd be cool to have both bulbs vertical and next to eachother. theyd have to be on some sort of frame though so the wind doesnt smash the bulbs together haha. also if the frame spun back and forth, everyone would get blue and red spectrum

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Everything will stay vertical in the tent. Right now the plants get both blue and red. I will keep both bulbs in the tent for the whole grow.

I did a few up grades on the system to protect the plants from growing into the lights and burning their leaves. I will post pics later.