I did 8 CFL's 65w each 5 inch above them
could they get burned if temp is bellow 78F ?
18 Plants dying PLEASE HELP
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could they get burned if temp is bellow 78F ?
thewizard01
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I concure with everyone else. Also next time be sure to put them in cups and walk away. Dont even look at them untill thier almost root bound, transplant and STILL do not feed unless your using an inert soiless mix. You transplanted too early into a much much much bigger than needed container which is going to make it harder for you to correct the excess salt in the medium. You could probly go two weeks before those pots are completly dried out. However, you will want to make sure the top soil stays moist. Maybe fill a small, and I mean small, drinking glass and water the top soil every couple or few days untill their big enough to recover. It will take much longer now, for them to veg than it would have but they should make it. I have seen worse. Good lesson for ya I guess. expierence is the best teacher.
thewizard01
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When you say 65 watt each do you mean ACTUALL watts or incondesent equivilant? If its 65 actual watts each, you can use one bulb per seedling, if its 65 watts EQUIVILANT than two or three bulbs per seeding. Five inches away should be fine IMO.
Best reply i have seen so far. thanks
It says on Bulb 65W
I am new to this have no clue.
Just make sure you are using compact fluorescents. They are rated weird. Mine Cfl's are like 11 or 13W which is equivalent to 60W incandescent. If you have a bulb that says 65w its most likely incadesent and you do not want that. Incadesent are the traditional spherical bulbs. The cfl's are the spiral pattern bulbs. Just google them for pics.
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viper2020cobra
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there way to young man there cooked from everywhich direction.. i would just count your losses learn from your mistakes and toss them out and grow new ones.. if they did recover there going to be stunted and its going to take weeks and weeks for them to make it. by all that time you can grow new plants the right way and pass the current ones by light years.
loss the soil you shop at a nursery or hydro store and you buy no name brand soil? get a bag of fox farms or something. hell go get some coco coir from the pet store.
leave them in cups for weeks hell you can start flowering most of the time indoors before they get rootbound in cups.
dont feed them anything untill they get atleast 3 nodes . and dont water much neither if your going to baby sit them which everyone does get a little medicine cup and give them one little cup a day that wont over water them.
seedlings under an hps or mh is fine you just cant have a 400-600watt 12 inches u need to be 2 feet or so and as they get bigger you can slowly drop the light about an inch aday or if you notice stretching drop the light just alittle
but those seedlings man id just toss them there not going to grow right and its more or less a waste of time considering they look about 2 days old
. what iv come to notice is that the old timers grow the best plants, and part of this is because they have experience over the years.
but i think most of it is because they have life commitments and families and children. they toss there plants in a room or cabinet and water them and give them nutes when they get free time they set the timer and they walk away and live there life.
most of the people who fail at growing or have lots of problems baby sit there plants and check on them 4 times a day and are always making sure there soil is just right. and have a gazillion different chemicals and additives that they blend to just the right amount .
its a plant , plant it and leave it alone hell its a weed really and weeds are hard as hell to kill when mother nature grows them and she beats the crap out of them floods them drys them bends them unleashes bugs and animals upon them. but they stills stand and take more...that should tell ya something
loss the soil you shop at a nursery or hydro store and you buy no name brand soil? get a bag of fox farms or something. hell go get some coco coir from the pet store.
leave them in cups for weeks hell you can start flowering most of the time indoors before they get rootbound in cups.
dont feed them anything untill they get atleast 3 nodes . and dont water much neither if your going to baby sit them which everyone does get a little medicine cup and give them one little cup a day that wont over water them.
seedlings under an hps or mh is fine you just cant have a 400-600watt 12 inches u need to be 2 feet or so and as they get bigger you can slowly drop the light about an inch aday or if you notice stretching drop the light just alittle
but those seedlings man id just toss them there not going to grow right and its more or less a waste of time considering they look about 2 days old
. what iv come to notice is that the old timers grow the best plants, and part of this is because they have experience over the years.
but i think most of it is because they have life commitments and families and children. they toss there plants in a room or cabinet and water them and give them nutes when they get free time they set the timer and they walk away and live there life.
most of the people who fail at growing or have lots of problems baby sit there plants and check on them 4 times a day and are always making sure there soil is just right. and have a gazillion different chemicals and additives that they blend to just the right amount .
its a plant , plant it and leave it alone hell its a weed really and weeds are hard as hell to kill when mother nature grows them and she beats the crap out of them floods them drys them bends them unleashes bugs and animals upon them. but they stills stand and take more...that should tell ya something
I live in Morocco where you can not find Fox farms or similar, the only thing i could put my hand on was a brand called VAM Potting
Tested PH in the soil with a SOIL PH METER, result was 6.0
watered ph 6.5 into that soil and collected the runoff water and tested with a digital ph meter, it read ph 4.5
Flushed soil with PH 6.5 and tested again the runoff and still 4.5
Is this good to start new seeds in ?
Po boy
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Mark, as mentioned above, take it easy. slow down and learn the basics. you can get all the info you need here at RIU. read and be patient - you're killing your plants with too much love. GL
I think it's all your soils problem. Though it was clearly a mistake to put tiny plants in big pots like that, and to give them any nutes at all at such an early age.
Can you please confirm your Soil PH numbers?
The first page said you were watering at 6.5ph water and the soil was 7.0 at the start.
This page says you water at 6.5 but the soil started at 6.0 and the soil is now 4.5?? These are major changes.
If its soil. You want 6.5 obviously. If your run off is 4.5. Something is really really wrong and your plants cannot possibly grow in 4.5 phed soil.
Secondily, according to the picture instructions. Your soil is pre fertilized for 11-13 weeks of growing with a NPK. This means that its already got nutes, and its already at full strength to support an adult plant. So your 1/4 nutes just made it 1.25 nutes in total.
So it seems your ph of 4.5 is WAY too low, and your soil is already loaded with lots of nutes and wont need any for many weeks if at all.
You need to reseed some fresh plants into some new soil that is not pre fertilized as its considered too hot for young seedlings. If you will not reseed, Expect a long wait for thier recovery, but it may be possible to save them if you take them out and put them into much smaller cups at soil phed at 6.5ish. with no nutes.