1BMM's CAVE....

Aight peeps. If youve ever done any youtube whatching of how to clone. Most people will tell you to trim the leaves down to the last set. And also trim off the ends of the leaves. I found this to be unecissary at all levels.

I like to keep the entire cutting 2-3 leaf sets and no trimming at all. The leaves at the bottom will yellow and start to die as the clone is ready to pop roots. IE using the nutrients up that it needs to survive. In my case i bubble clone.

Trying to counter the nute def I add a low dose of tiger bloom for the p. You can use whatever but the P is what your after. Been experimenting awhile with this counter feeding. Bottom leaves still eat themselves.

Heres the dog top really starting to throw some roots out.




This top has been in the diy cloner i built for about 9 days. As you can see the lower leaves are showing the yellowing and will likey drop off leaving 2 healthy sets and a strong robust clone. Now keep in mind that the lowest leaves (Using this method of cloning) always die off first and then so on to the top. so when cloning take that into account. But on the norm it's usally just the bottom leaf set. I snip them off anyways if they dont fall off.

You will have a length of stem now but dont worry. as long as its planted deep it will eventually form feeder roots.

I have had i say 98% sucess with this method to date.

Be back with some more. 1BMM Need a puff haha.

A few goodmorning pics from the vegging ladies.




Super fat leaves on this DOG kush. Somethings been doing a lil munching I see.


White Widow that got scorched under the MH. It recovering very slowly. Thinking im going to let her go. This would be a 3rd gen ww. They seem to get more potent in the 2nd 3rd gen. She was a beautiful clone before she got heat stressed and lost half her leaves.


DOG Kush #2


DOG Kush #3


Headband #1


Headband #2

And a few more pics of the room.


This is the exhaust ducting built into the ceiling and run up and out the chimney stack. Hidden super stealth like.


Fresh air intake.








The hydro nutes. Floor is a bit of a mess haha. I was draining the hydro lastnite when the pump suddenly stopped. So i took off the drain hose to have a look in. Plugged it in and nothing. A few minutes later i plugged it in again ( with the hose still off ) and WOOOSH got a blast off water right in the kisser. I come out just soaking fkn wet lol. Note to self always have drain hose attached.


And a look at my dinky ass carbon filter. Its going bye bye. Out with the old in with the new.



1BMM

man, you have a killer setup. 1 question though, why did you fasten the tubing to the floor, curious.

man i love those fat indica leafs, what nutes do you use on the vegging plants they are so healthy looking

WWShadow said:

man, you have a killer setup. 1 question though, why did you fasten the tubing to the floor, curious.

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Thanks WW. The reason for fastening the tubing down is because instead of buying nice flexible rubber hose i bought electrical conduit because it was alot cheaper. The conduit wanted to coil up and tip the buckets over. Hence the brackets to hold her down.

mcpurple said:

man i love those fat indica leafs, what nutes do you use on the vegging plants they are so healthy looking

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Actually none Mcp. I am probably going to mother these plants. And when growing a mother I dont give them any nutes till they start showing signs of deficiency. The soil itself has nutes in it so until they get used up Notta.

Ok i got a question for any knowledgable hydro growers. I just bought this Hanna Ph CF PPM monitor.



There are a slew of calibration solutions and probe solutions.

Can someone enlighten me on what ill be needing. Theres Multiple PH cal solutions & ppm solutions? Im lost hahah.

Thanks 1BMM

1badmasonman said:

Thanks WW. The reason for fastening the tubing down is because instead of buying nice flexible rubber hose i bought electrical conduit because it was alot cheaper. The conduit wanted to coil up and tip the buckets over. Hence the brackets to hold her down.



Actually none Mcp. I am probably going to mother these plants. And when growing a mother I dont give them any nutes till they start showing signs of deficiency. The soil itself has nutes in it so until they get used up Notta.

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ah thats why theri still green then cuz the soil has nutes. must be some pretty decent soil.

Miracle grow garden soil. Its not the greatest but this time of year its gets hard to find any good organic soil locally.

hey Mg isnt bad stuff its only bad cuz al the haters who hate on it, ive seen great buds grown with it and it is cheap

Alrighty Ordered the last crucial peices to get this thing up and running.

Got 2 of these 12 port commercial airpumps on the way.



Now i just got to either rig up my old cool tubes diy or order some cool hoods. Fuck this is adding up quick. I guess its the price you pay for not getting caught hauling bags of soil in and out between grows. Ive had to do it 3 times now and my neighbors wonder what the fuck im lugging huge contractor bags out to my truck for. Why is he hauling all that soil in the house for. hahah. Yep thats right.

There will be no more of that. I do however want to flower just a couple in coco once to see the diffrence in taste.

So it will likely be next week before i get all the parts gathered and delivered. Need some airtstones yet too.

Updates to come with the progress 1BMM

Wow the fan leaf is massive or you have tiny man hands! LOL J/K!! Lookin good!! Do you have pets 1BMM? My cat is waiting in my room for me to daily maintence and watering at 8:30 when my lights come on. If I leave the room for more than a minute he is munching...damage looks similiar to what he does.

Got a question/comment about your setup... I am assumming from the dimensions you listed your room is 8'H x 6'W x 13'L? Are you planning on leaving the buckets in the current position for your grow? If I may make a suggestion based on knowledge of friends grows...I would arrange your buckets like this...
6ft
O O O
O O O
O O O 13ft
O O O
O O O

Would leave you some space around the outside to be able to have access to all of your buckets. Just a suggestions I am a novice when it comes to indoor growing but do have friends that have been growing for quite some time who have had problems getting access to the farthest buckets. This being my 1st indoor grow I already have a ton of things I'm going to change next time around!

Second questions is do you have a fan for fresh air coming in? Or is the 8" just exhausting and pulling air from the crack at the bottom of the door?
I don't think you will need to speed controler for the 8" fan you got for exhaust + odor control. Once you throw that scrubber on the fan it will cut the CFM in half. You are still good at 375cfm exhausting your room every 1min 40 sec (just about 2x minimum you would want to do it...once every 3 mins). If you have an intake fan blowing fresh in I would use the speed contoller for that fan so that you can make sure you keep the negative pressure in the room.

Obviously you know what you are doing after seeing the bud porn!

1badmasonman said:

Yeah im getting better and better with each new grow Mcp. This last run was my best yet. I been needing to jar it up but cant be doing such things with my lil guy under my wing. Kinda slowed down with work sos watching my youngest son. Once the ball and chain gets home im going to snap some closeup pics for all to see.

I got my vertical room pretty well torn down. Sucks I really like that method of growing. My scary old wiring cant handle the wattage in that room to run more than 1 600. So Ill be making that room into a veg room for my new strains. Timewarp & TimewarpXRomulan Mwahahah. Ill be keeping the Headband & DOG kush strains going for as long as I can. I got one headband that is really a compact phenotype. Very short internodal spacing. I think that is going to be some KILL. Def going to make her a mother I think.

Aight be back afterwhile with some pics. Peace 1BMM

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All right so I'm reading through your thread and I come across this littel gem and laughed my ass off. When the ball and chain gets home. It reminded me one day I'm at walmart getting something and I see this old guy looking around kinda' lost like, then I hear his saying, where did the warden go? Obviously he was looking for his wife.

bajafox said:

Sign me up, I didn't believe in Heaven until now

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Me neither, until now. I don't know how big heaven is but I'll happily add my little piece to the bunch.

bajafox said:

good luck man, fuckin pigs should find better things to do than fuck with peaceful gardeners

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And since we are on the subject, all I have to say is...Amen.

whodatnation said:

Quote of the day for sure

Sounds like the tides are turning in your area 1BMM I'm happy for ya. I had to move away from the city of my drams to another state just to be able to sleep easy. Hope it works out for ya!

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Whodat, I moved from philly, my city of nightmares. Sorry to hear you lost your beloved city. Never been there but I love the whole culture of the place and I was married to a native from the state, a good girl from the sticks, Jonesboro.

1badmasonman said:

Alrighty Ordered the last crucial peices to get this thing up and running.

Got 2 of these 12 port commercial airpumps on the way.

Now i just got to either rig up my old cool tubes diy or order some cool hoods. Fuck this is adding up quick. I guess its the price you pay for not getting caught hauling bags of soil in and out between grows. Ive had to do it 3 times now and my neighbors wonder what the fuck im lugging huge contractor bags out to my truck for. Why is he hauling all that soil in the house for. hahah. Yep thats right.

There will be no more of that. I do however want to flower just a couple in coco once to see the diffrence in taste.

So it will likely be next week before i get all the parts gathered and delivered. Need some airtstones yet too.

Updates to come with the progress 1BMM

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Masonman, where did you order your stuff from? Your fan and filter? I'm looking at a six inch carbonaire filter and the phatts, can't decide but I am going with the six inch vortex...and, did you get the air pumps from the same place?

My cloner is not working right and this is the third set of heads I've put in, I'm done, I'm going with the bubble cloner method.

sub'd . . . . .you are definitely going all in.

You just reminded me of the lesson I learned when I had to get rid of 100 gallons of perlite after I decided hempy buckets were really not a good production method of growing. I dug as much as I could into my outdoor garden, layered it into my compost pile, I still had too much and had to search for dumpsters and I hate illegal dumping. I try to minimize unnecessary illegality. Water truly rocks in this regard. Used up res water is great in the garden within reason. I only use it on ornamentals, not food beds.

GreenBuddha619 said:

Wow the fan leaf is massive or you have tiny man hands! LOL J/K!! Lookin good!! Do you have pets 1BMM? My cat is waiting in my room for me to daily maintence and watering at 8:30 when my lights come on. If I leave the room for more than a minute he is munching...damage looks similiar to what he does.

Got a question/comment about your setup... I am assumming from the dimensions you listed your room is 8'H x 6'W x 13'L? Are you planning on leaving the buckets in the current position for your grow? If I may make a suggestion based on knowledge of friends grows...I would arrange your buckets like this...
6ft
O O O
O O O
O O O 13ft
O O O
O O O

Would leave you some space around the outside to be able to have access to all of your buckets. Just a suggestions I am a novice when it comes to indoor growing but do have friends that have been growing for quite some time who have had problems getting access to the farthest buckets. This being my 1st indoor grow I already have a ton of things I'm going to change next time around!

Second questions is do you have a fan for fresh air coming in? Or is the 8" just exhausting and pulling air from the crack at the bottom of the door?
I don't think you will need to speed controler for the 8" fan you got for exhaust + odor control. Once you throw that scrubber on the fan it will cut the CFM in half. You are still good at 375cfm exhausting your room every 1min 40 sec (just about 2x minimum you would want to do it...once every 3 mins). If you have an intake fan blowing fresh in I would use the speed contoller for that fan so that you can make sure you keep the negative pressure in the room.

Obviously you know what you are doing after seeing the bud porn!

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Thankyou for enjoying the read so far Green Buddah. To answer some of you questions. I think i mat have mislead with my dimensions out of order lol. The room is 12ft wide 7ft deep and 6ft tall. Heres a pic from grow 3 to give some perspective.


I have the buckets arranged at one end of the room In a 7ft X 4ft footprint. I have plenty of working room and that is with my veg room within the flower room but sealed.

Those are huge fan leaves, and my hands are far from small

Yes sir i have air intake that comes in from an upstairs room and the exhaust blows out at the same rate. The new carbon filter and fan will be a stand in air purification only machine. I do not want to run Ozone if i can help it. Which is the reason for the overkill of the fan size and filter. Also the reason for the controller as i will need to keep the smell down more when nearing harvest. This allows me to keep the smell of the ganj well out of any sniffers of any passers by which helps me sleep at night. And also gives me complete control of the odor issue at hand.

Some of the strains i will be growing on this thread are some very loud mother fuckers lol. And im not chancing getting pinched for lack of precaution.

And lastly thankyou Im still learning but getting things down. I got a few under my belt.

Heads Up said:

All right so I'm reading through your thread and I come across this littel gem and laughed my ass off. When the ball and chain gets home. It reminded me one day I'm at walmart getting something and I see this old guy looking around kinda' lost like, then I hear his saying, where did the warden go? Obviously he was looking for his wife.

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Ohh hell yes Headsup. It like that these days lol. Life is a bitch and then you marry one hahah

Heads Up said:

Me neither, until now. I don't know how big heaven is but I'll happily add my little piece to the bunch.





And since we are on the subject, all I have to say is...Amen.



Whodat, I moved from philly, my city of nightmares. Sorry to hear you lost your beloved city. Never been there but I love the whole culture of the place and I was married to a native from the state, a good girl from the sticks, Jonesboro.



Masonman, where did you order your stuff from? Your fan and filter? I'm looking at a six inch carbonaire filter and the phatts, can't decide but I am going with the six inch vortex...and, did you get the air pumps from the same place?

My cloner is not working right and this is the third set of heads I've put in, I'm done, I'm going with the bubble cloner method.

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I got it, well most of it from the hydro source. But if you go on ebay the same store sells the shit way cheaper than they do on there website.

What happened with the cloner Headsup I wanted to see that sucker make some roots. One things for sure about bubble cloning. It Works. Shouldnt be to big of a project to convert your setup bro.

shnkrmn said:

sub'd . . . . .you are definitely going all in.

You just reminded me of the lesson I learned when I had to get rid of 100 gallons of perlite after I decided hempy buckets were really not a good production method of growing. I dug as much as I could into my outdoor garden, layered it into my compost pile, I still had too much and had to search for dumpsters and I hate illegal dumping. I try to minimize unnecessary illegality. Water truly rocks in this regard. Used up res water is great in the garden within reason. I only use it on ornamentals, not food beds.

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Yeah i suppose I am shnkrmn. Ive always figured anything worth doing is worth doing right. Ive been planning this grow all year so ive put aside the loot to get the best equipment to do the job. And above all I love growing weed

I dont like having to sneak around dumping evidence so here we are. Its going to be so fucking cool when i get it all together. Going for a massive scrog. Going to be fun.

1BMM

mason dude you should send a pic to lowes and see if you can get a discount for product placement!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ahh ahaha hell yeah i should puffntuff. Get a full grow sponsorship haha. That cracks me up lol. Diggin that avatar bro. What straind is that sexy biatch?

a little too lake now, but I don't think you'll ever use up that ph up. I bought a gallon of each up and down, and I've ever only used about 10 drops of ph up. You'll probably only use the ph down, as bubbles/ oxyen makes the ph go up. The more oxygen the more it goes up. But that's not a bad thing. The more bubbles the happier the plants.

As for the solutions, the two differet ph solutions are used to calibrate the meter to two values. You can just use one, but the two stage calibration makes it more accurate. I could explain, but it would be boring and take a lot of typing. Not sure, but I think the probe solution is something to keep your probe in when it's not in the water. It should always stay wet. Letting it dry out will mess it up, and you shouldn't just let it sit in water when it's not in your tank. Does that make sense? SOme might say it would be a waste of money for that stuff, but I think it's cheaper than getting a new probe.

Hope that helps bru. Cant wait to see what happens.

peace

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