1st grow. 250w HPS

Jester88 · Nov 11, 2009

yeah miracle grow isnt to bad really its just given a bad rep by people who dont know how to use it. less is more lol. afterall you can always top up.

i find when using MG you should also keep some Epsom salts handy in case of magnesium deficiency.

MG will grow a plant fine the only differance is how readily available or accessable and usable the nutrients actually are in the fertilizer. this is known as chelation.

he expensive brands usually make there fertilizers in a more readily available form for the plants.

these guys have moved on to coco now. id stick with te nutes theyre already using

mr west · Nov 11, 2009

Mammath said:
Looking great LGP.
Very healthy, nice long stigma, and early resin production.
Big fat nasty buds on the way.
Well done.

high praise indeed. Im thinking the light and plants could do with a bigger space myself, were gonna be hard pushed getting the numbers out in the tiny arena.

potsmokinbasturd --

Definately Miracle Gro potting mix (except for organic its to strong). No worries about ph or feeding just water when needed and watch your temps and humidity. Buy u sum Miracle gro bloombooster when u start flower and you wont get fert burn either. OOPS i guess I got here to late never mind heee. Nice plants

No going back after uve seen the power of the ginger side. Coco or bust lol.

welsh wizz · Nov 11, 2009

After all the problems Iv had with prefeed soil I will never go back, if I had fed them and burnt them then it would be my own fault and I could live with that, but when you get runoff over 2000ppm tds with just water running through the soil fk that! :cuss:

Its coco all the way from now on :!:

mr west · Nov 11, 2009

Id buy coco if it was twice the price i think, well worth it.

welsh wizz · Nov 11, 2009

If coco hit £20 a bag then I would go full hydro.

mr west · Nov 11, 2009

potponics theres less fooking bout. Then i dunt really know much bout setting a hydro grow up lol.

Jester88 · Nov 11, 2009

meh im still a soil man lol. but then again i favor the great outdoors so yeah lol. less work too. actually i dont really care as long as my plants grow lol. i may give coco a run soon fuck it.

hydros not to hard westy. its kina like what your doing now but it takes away the fun of giving each of your girls love and attention ya know. it gets more technical but it also gets easier once ya get it down pat. we can grow good outdoor hydy's here though to be honest we dont really need to lol.

mr west · Nov 11, 2009

Jester88 said:
meh im still a soil man lol. but then again i favor the great outdoors so yeah lol. less work too. actually i dont really care as long as my plants grow lol. i may give coco a run soon fuck it.

hydros not to hard westy. its kina like what your doing now but it takes away the fun of giving each of your girls love and attention ya know. it gets more technical but it also gets easier once ya get it down pat. we can grow good outdoor hydy's here though to be honest we dont really need to lol.

next years gopnna be so much fun if my legs let me im gonna plant loads outside.

Jester88 · Nov 11, 2009

i would if i were you theres just something beautiful about seeing your babies out there in the world it has more of a natural feel to it. you can keep em in coco if ya want.

i make my own dirt. its really nuitrient rich though sometimes it goes a little hard but the plants seem to love it as the soil still gets airy and maintains moisture well.

all ya gotta do is get some chicken shit, some nice nutrient rich soil, some fish and some mushrooms and fire remains. some slow release fertilizer and lime perhaps and on the occasion sand. rocks at the bottoms of every pot.

if you get a hot day and the root systems big and the plants are in a spot they are getting to hot and hurting the roots just put your pot inside another pot.

with your current knowledge im sure well see some beauties. i ant wait bro.. i think im more excited about this than you. good outdoor medacine is truly the best. if grown correct it will look the same as indoors or hydro in cases

Lil ganja princess · Nov 11, 2009

Jester88 said:
i would if i were you theres just something beautiful about seeing your babies out there in the world it has more of a natural feel to it. you can keep em in coco if ya want.

i make my own dirt. its really nuitrient rich though sometimes it goes a little hard but the plants seem to love it as the soil still gets airy and maintains moisture well.

all ya gotta do is get some chicken shit, some nice nutrient rich soil, some fish and some mushrooms and fire remains. some slow release fertilizer and lime perhaps and on the occasion sand. rocks at the bottoms of every pot.

if you get a hot day and the root systems big and the plants are in a spot they are getting to hot and hurting the roots just put your pot inside another pot.

with your current knowledge im sure well see some beauties. i ant wait bro.. i think im more excited about this than you. good outdoor medacine is truly the best. if grown correct it will look the same as indoors or hydro in cases

but u have decent weather over there m8. we have 4 seasons in one day

Don Gin and Ton · Nov 11, 2009

hahah yeah 2 winter and two autumn

welsh wizz · Nov 11, 2009

And the odd heatwave where it gets above freezing for a few hrs.

mr west · Nov 11, 2009

welsh wizz said:
And the odd heatwave where it gets above freezing for a few hrs.

LMAO thats only on the south coast lol

Don Gin and Ton · Nov 11, 2009

yeah its exclusive to a small cove just of portsmouth not that ive seen it like...

samstevens1 · Nov 11, 2009

Jester88 said:
i would if i were you theres just something beautiful about seeing your babies out there in the world it has more of a natural feel to it. you can keep em in coco if ya want.

i make my own dirt. its really nuitrient rich though sometimes it goes a little hard but the plants seem to love it as the soil still gets airy and maintains moisture well.

all ya gotta do is get some chicken shit, some nice nutrient rich soil, some fish and some mushrooms and fire remains. some slow release fertilizer and lime perhaps and on the occasion sand. rocks at the bottoms of every pot.

if you get a hot day and the root systems big and the plants are in a spot they are getting to hot and hurting the roots just put your pot inside another pot.

with your current knowledge im sure well see some beauties. i ant wait bro.. i think im more excited about this than you. good outdoor medacine is truly the best. if grown correct it will look the same as indoors or hydro in cases

Hey how's it hanging guys again lgp it seems your about 2 weeks ahead of me in flowering time and they are beautiful. I can't wait to see your end product, you make us 250w growers proud. I too agree that growing outdoors is the way to go but how would you control unexplainable light leaks( helicopter, reflection of passing car headlights?etc.)? I think the sun emits 400w per sq ft so its definetly crapping on any light system but I think indoor growers have more control over the enviornment their bud grows in. I would love to move to a state that allows outdoor in more quantites(they just lowered the amount of plants allowed to grow)but indoors will have to go. West I read that you think your space is getting a bit cramped?what is your better alternative better wattage of lights or expand your grow area?I think I'll be coming across the same prob thats why. Take it easy everyone keep getting high and getting by its ruff out here :bigjoint:

welsh wizz · Nov 11, 2009

Lil ganja princess said:
but u have decent weather over there m8. we have 4 seasons in one day

Don Gin and Ton said:
hahah yeah 2 winter and two autumn

welsh wizz said:
And the odd heatwave where it gets above freezing for a few hrs.

mr west said:
LMAO thats only on the south coast lol

Don Gin and Ton said:
yeah its exclusive to a small cove just of portsmouth not that ive seen it like...

Thats some funny shit right there. :clap:

I love

Jester88 · Nov 11, 2009

samstevens1 said:
Hey how's it hanging guys again lgp it seems your about 2 weeks ahead of me in flowering time and they are beautiful. I can't wait to see your end product, you make us 250w growers proud. I too agree that growing outdoors is the way to go but how would you control unexplainable light leaks( helicopter, reflection of passing car headlights?etc.)? I think the sun emits 400w per sq ft so its definetly crapping on any light system but I think indoor growers have more control over the enviornment their bud grows in. I would love to move to a state that allows outdoor in more quantites(they just lowered the amount of plants allowed to grow)but indoors will have to go. West I read that you think your space is getting a bit cramped?what is your better alternative better wattage of lights or expand your grow area?I think I'll be coming across the same prob thats why. Take it easy everyone keep getting high and getting by its ruff out here

hehe yup you explained the pros and cons well though outdoors i dont explain any light leaks :lol:

i can plant over 9 times a year here and still get satisfactory results lol. the suns my light. BTW it 10000 lumens per aquare foot really that the sun puts out.

as for hydro outside well the idea behind it is ya set up a hydro kit outside. if ya dont want it to be seen make it hard to be seen cammo it or something.

anither popular method is to dump a tank set up on a timer and pumps near your plants 1000l or something cover it and only go ou every now an then to refil it or look at your babies. though technically that would be classedas hydro lol.

umm also if you upped the lighting you could also enlarge the space. idealistically a 400w will do a 4 foot by 4 foot happily though you can push it to 5 perhaps more if you get your technique down pat and get good results. also during the vegitative period they dont really need that much light to grow, we just dont like them to stretch too much. its in flower you hit them with as much light as possible in the 12 hours without bleaching the leaves or damaging the plant in any way. More light= more energy = bigger buds. though i should note that i personally think 1000w lights are a waste of space they generally put out more heat than they do good to be honest.

Lil ganja princess said:
but u have decent weather over there m8. we have 4 seasons in one day

is the weather really that crap over there... whatsit like atm. the missus's great grandad passed away so yeah she may be comming over soon :-(

Barking Mad · Nov 12, 2009

Hi LGP just stopping by.

welsh wizz said:
If coco hit £20 a bag then I would go full hydro.

mr west said:
potponics theres less fooking bout. Then i dunt really know much bout setting a hydro grow up lol.

I'd like to go hydro but,
A) I've no experience :cry:

B) I can't afford it :cry:

.
C) I'm on the 1st floor of a 300yr old house, a flood could be catastrophic :!:

Definitely trying coco next though.

Mr West, I will try to get those pics up today with the bud rot.

Lil ganja princess · Nov 12, 2009

samstevens1 said:
Hey how's it hanging guys again lgp it seems your about 2 weeks ahead of me in flowering time and they are beautiful. I can't wait to see your end product, you make us 250w growers proud. I too agree that growing outdoors is the way to go but how would you control unexplainable light leaks( helicopter, reflection of passing car headlights?etc.)? I think the sun emits 400w per sq ft so its definetly crapping on any light system but I think indoor growers have more control over the enviornment their bud grows in. I would love to move to a state that allows outdoor in more quantites(they just lowered the amount of plants allowed to grow)but indoors will have to go. West I read that you think your space is getting a bit cramped?what is your better alternative better wattage of lights or expand your grow area?I think I'll be coming across the same prob thats why. Take it easy everyone keep getting high and getting by its ruff out here

thank u so much. i really chuffed with ma girls its them thats doing me proud lol. hopefully me and mr west will have a solution for the space problem. i goes against ma judgement but i fink i might have to sell some just to buy a tent package with 400w.

Jester88 said:
is the weather really that crap over there... whatsit like atm. the missus's great grandad passed away so yeah she may be comming over soon

well its definetly getting colder. hat scarf and gloves weather for me. BBBRRRRRR

Jester88 · Nov 12, 2009

its just starting to get hot over here lol. almost getting to swimming weather

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