1st grow, how does it look?

reddiamond

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A couple more pics.

If i offered you this would you take it?

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Looks nice doesn't it :weed:










What about now, would you still take it?
Same top opened up :spew:

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It was stupid newbie grower mistake but i didn't pay enough attention to my plant or her enviroment, i got complacent as she looked like she was doing fine and didn't check her over like i should have.
Its a mistake i will not be repeating if at all possible.


I found more rotted tops this morning and panicked again so i cut them off and stripped her leaves off to open her up so there was maximum air flow through her. All except 1 cola has been cut in half and i suspect by the end of the week a good deal more will be gone :(


This is what she looks like now, i'm giving her ph'd water only for the next 5-7 days if she makes it that far then i will cut her down. All trichs are still clear and this is the start of week 8 from flip, i can't see her making it to the full 9 - 10 weeks she needs :(



Colas chopped in half :(
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Last remaining full size cola
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hbbum

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Heartbreaking man. That is a hard lesson to learn, not a total loss at least you will get some harvest.

I dont know, but wondering. With the bud rot, is it only trash can, or can you use in a BHO extraction or something?
 

dlftmyers

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Just wondering where do you think you made the mistake? Not enough airflow was your humidity really high? And I'm sorry this happened man I feel your loss such great looking buds too
 

reddiamond

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Heartbreaking man. That is a hard lesson to learn, not a total loss at least you will get some harvest.

I dont know, but wondering. With the bud rot, is it only trash can, or can you use in a BHO extraction or something?
No idea mate, i got rid of it this morning, i put it in a damp paper bag (damp to try and stop spores from flying everywhere) and that went into a plastic bag and that went into a trash can that was approx 8 miles from my grow. I didn't even think of doing anything else with it, by the way i put the bag on some scales and it was 247grams but obviously that was wet weight :(
 

reddiamond

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Just wondering where do you think you made the mistake? Not enough airflow was your humidity really high? And I'm sorry this happened man I feel your loss such great looking buds too
The humidity was getting high (80% +) and temp low (15c) at lights off, my oscillating fans X 2 run 24/7 but my airflow is temp controlled so once the temp dropped the fans slowed down. I have put a heater in there now and plugged it into a thermostat so it shouldn't drop below 22c and hopefully keep humidity down at the same time until i can find a small enough dehu to fit in the room and also work well.
 

Crankyxr

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Damn, sorry to hear that..
Your lady looks really nice too. Uniform monster colas all around and massive secondary colas too..
If you're not sure what caused the bud rot, you should try adding a couple more oscillating fans blowing at your canopy 24/7.
Should be your best line of defense.
 

reddiamond

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Damn, sorry to hear that..
Your lady looks really nice too. Uniform monster colas all around and massive secondary colas too..
If you're not sure what caused the bud rot, you should try adding a couple more oscillating fans blowing at your canopy 24/7.
Should be your best line of defense.
My oscillating fans runs 24/7, i have 2 which in that size space keeps her moving nicely, i think it was just too humid and cold.
On the plus side i haven't found any rot in the secondary colas (yet) so if i can at least harvest those i'll have something to smoke :)
 

Crankyxr

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My oscillating fans runs 24/7, i have 2 which in that size space keeps her moving nicely, i think it was just too humid and cold.
On the plus side i haven't found any rot in the secondary colas (yet) so if i can at least harvest those i'll have something to smoke :)
If your fans are on 24/7 and you're still having rot issues, a dehumidifier and higher temps would probably be your best bet like you said.
At least you found out what to do for the next grow to avoid these types of issues in your next run!
 

raiderman

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My oscillating fans runs 24/7, i have 2 which in that size space keeps her moving nicely, i think it was just too humid and cold.
On the plus side i haven't found any rot in the secondary colas (yet) so if i can at least harvest those i'll have something to smoke :)
sounds like a plan,i'd bleach water wipe everything down in that area ,will kill on contact , its a fungus so needs a environmental cleaning ,been through the same situation couple times before.
 

grasscropper

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AWW that's a real shame.... I can see you put a lot of effort in this and to come this far to the end and have this happen sucks bag seed! Hopefully all is not lost.
 

zfr

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This is heartbreaking. It's like the end of Se7en where the badguy kills his wife he's so in love with. Goddamnit.

Otherwise GREAT grow. Planning on a very similar first grow myself, and stumbled on this. Very exciting other than the obvious problem. All in all that is some great work!
 

reddiamond

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Thanks, hopefully by cutting the colas in half it has slowed it down enough to salvage some and luckily the secondary colas don't seem to have been infected so i should still be able to harvest its just gotta be earlier rather than letting her fully finish.


I grabbed some rot stop yesterday and a heater to get the temps up and hopefully the humidity down during lights off.
I also got some gh ripen and she'll be getting that for the next 5 days too.

I looked at her this morning and she doesn't look too bad at the min, a little smaller but a bit healthier.
Last night min temp was 20c (turned the thermostat up a bit more for tonight) and max rh was 67% (still too high but better than 80%)

I need to get a dehumidifier that will fit in my cupboard before the next run for sure :)
 

reddiamond

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sounds like a plan,i'd bleach water wipe everything down in that area ,will kill on contact , its a fungus so needs a environmental cleaning ,been through the same situation couple times before.
Once its empty i will spray everything down with bleach water a couple of times and let it dry :)
 

reddiamond

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Update ....
If i can keep the rot to a minimum and not lose too much more i will still have a decent harvest, i took these tonight just as lights went out. You can see the colas still look good but they are only half the size they were. I stripped all the fan leaves in a desperate attempt to get more air circulation.

The one that didn't get cut is the one that got light bleached, thats why her sugar leaves are burnt and she has a white cap :)

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You can see the tops have been cut off these.

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These are secondary colas, so far they don't seem to have been infected.

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reddiamond

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I just looked back at some pics from a few days ago, i zoomed in and saw this so thought it would be good to post.

This was what alerted me to the bud rot, i saw a few of these on some of the tops and i pulled on one to remove it and it slid out with no resistance, the stem of the leaf was covered in fluffy white hair and that was when my heart sank :(
I bent the cola to open it up and saw the grey mould. :spew:

If you spot any leaves looking like this on your buds give them a tug from the end just to make sure.

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reddiamond

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If i can keep the mould from coming back, once you cut into it you release thousands of spores, then i have a chance. I really need her to last another 3 weeks to finish properly but if i see any of it reappearing then i will have to cut it and i only have clear trichs at the moment but i'm staying hopeful :)
 

zfr

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That's still a pretty epic fucking harvest right there. Fingers crossed for you. I'd be thrilled with that harvest on my first grow even if I didn't get the mold.
 

Edgar9

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Got into this thread late. Sorry to hear about your situation, bud rot is the worst, been there, done that.

I'd like to start off by saying that you have a beautiful plant. That being said you obviously have a green thumb. At the same time I think there are some concerns that I'd like to point out.

I'm too tired to read all the posts and I'm sure some people will agree and some will disagree but here's what I think anyway based on my experiences.

1. Fabric pots are not good IMO. I've used them before and they stay wet, too wet. Anything that stays wet in your grow area is bad.

2. I saw you're using up to 50% perlite in your medium. That's too much. You want about 10% to 15% when you mix with a medium. This is where some people may disagree but I know for a fact, based on experience, that too much perlite mixed with a medium keeps the medium wet for too long because perlite is porous and it helps the medium retain water. If you have 100% perlite then it will drain, but once again, if you mix your perlite with a medium and you have too much perlite, it keeps the medium wet for too long.

3. I only see one small fan in the pics. I think you need a lot more air flow. For example, I have a 3x3 tent and have three fans on all the time during flowering. One is a big oscillating fan and then I have two smaller fans that constantly breeze the canopy. Airflow is your friend and it's good to have lots of friends.

4. Is there and intake of fresh air in your grow area? I see some ducting above in the pics but it doesn't look like you have any fresh air coming in. If you don't you need some.

5. RH goes up with cooler temps, but sometimes an air conditioner conditions the air to an extent that it will lower the humidity and sometimes it doesn't. When my humidity is going up I start with running the a/c. If it doesn't help I'll switch gears and try the other side of the coin and use a heater in the room. Sometimes the dry heat helps. Controlling humidity can be an art and a science. What works sometimes doesn't work at other times since there are so many factors. It can be warm and rainy outside, cold and rainy outside, hot and humid outside, etc. This is where you have to experiment with what works best at that time and place.

Good luck.
 
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