20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

collective gardener

collective gardener

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AndyK said:
That was a little general I'll admit, but I know six different outdoor growers running GDP all picking it up clone only from 6 different sources and its the exact same plant, bud structure, density, taste, even the color, granted all the growers are within about 150 miles of each other so environmental factors are all very similar. True GDP is clone only, but GDP is just purple urkle x big bud. So it wouldn't be very hard to make seeds of it and call it GDP............ And I also just wanted to say thanks CG I read this thread every single day and love it, you have given us an insight into the world of commercial growing that we could get nowhere else. And I think what you're doing for the underprivileged patients is great. Our counter-culture needs more people like you.
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Our "counter culture" hasn't really been too counter for a while. There's a butt-load of people who get high. If the real truth about how many people use weed ever got out, it would cease to be counter culture and take its rightfull place as just a part of our culture. Or how bout the 70%+ of Americans that just don't give a rats ass about who's getting high on what. The country doesn't care, I don't care, you don't care...just who are these people that are so hell bent on stopping people from getting high?
 
Roflicer

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I cant read through over 200 pages, but holy fuck someone loaned you 60,000 dollars to grow weed?


Also, starting on what page do you show the harvest?
 
collective gardener

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Roflicer said:
I cant read through over 200 pages, but holy fuck someone loaned you 60,000 dollars to grow weed?


Also, starting on what page do you show the harvest?
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Closer to 80k when all was and and done. It's really not that much when you figure out how much all of our members save. Dispensary retail prices are around $350/oz. Our reimbursement changes with our running costs, but runs around $200/oz. Part of that cost is the loan payment.

When the City of Oakland was offering the 4 large scale commercial growing permits, they were charging 1 million per permit. The grows being considered were in the 20,000 plant range. Add the cost of building a grow that big to the growing permit and you're looking at several million bucks initial cash layout plus several months of operating costs. Investors were lined up for an chance to loan the money for such an operation. If growing commercially became Federally legal, investment capitol would be no problem. Anyone who could prove commercial growing experience and put together a halfway decent business plan could attract investors easily. I don't believe there to be any limit on the amount of capitol that could be raised.

As to what page the harvest starts, you'll just have to read. I promise you it took me alot more time to write it than it will take you to read it. Man up.
 
collective gardener

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Someguy15 said:
Stuff seems to work pretty awesome in my limited experience with it. Get your supports ready, stuff will start falling over lol
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I noticed the same thing. I've never seen weight put on so quick as with the Yellow Bottle Final. I've been playing with the timing a bit. If you apply too early certain strains will foxtail on you. The best time seems to be in concert with the flush. Any earlier and the plant can actually start growing new pistils...not good for bag appeal. Everyone I've talked to that has used as directed on bottle has encountered serious foxtailing.
 
SupaM

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collective gardener said:
I noticed the same thing. I've never seen weight put on so quick as with the Yellow Bottle Final. I've been playing with the timing a bit. If you apply too early certain strains will foxtail on you. The best time seems to be in concert with the flush. Any earlier and the plant can actually start growing new pistils...not good for bag appeal. Everyone I've talked to that has used as directed on bottle has encountered serious foxtailing.
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I look forward to the weight...lol! I'm gonna go grab extra stakes also!
 
collective gardener

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Made ice water hash today for several hours. Managed to use up about 1/4 of the trim I've been saving. This is my second attempt at the ice water thing. My first attempt I did it exactly how Matt Rize shows on his You Tube video. One of our members very experienced in grading hash said it was as good as hash gets. We are using a 90 mesh to catch the cooking grade and 25 mesh for the full melt. I get 2 grams of cooking grade for every 1 gram of full melt. We're saving all the cooking grade for when my wife starts up the edibles collective. She wants to cook only with hash to ensure consistant doses. The full melt goes out to members. The last batch was gone within hours of being dry.

Question: All the water that is tossed making ice water hash has got to be loaded with nutrients. Has anyone considered using that water to make tea? We use alfalfa extract...why not weed extract? The water is a dark tea color. I didn't think to test PPM or PH. I think we'll save it next time and try feeding back to a couple plants. Anyone have an opinion on this???
 
stonestare

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CG I got a question for. I am planning on getting a tent that is 4X4 to start indoor growing and is the Hortilux dual bulb worth it. I will proboly do a couple grows of auto flowering so I can get things stabilized. I like the short time for growth since I will be starting from seed.2 weeks of veg 6 weeks of flowering. I plan on using a xxl reflector and a 1000 watt light. I know its overkill but I dont want to buy another light set up down the road and it will be air cooled.
 
Wolverine97

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collective gardener said:
Made ice water hash today for several hours. Managed to use up about 1/4 of the trim I've been saving. This is my second attempt at the ice water thing. My first attempt I did it exactly how Matt Rize shows on his You Tube video. One of our members very experienced in grading hash said it was as good as hash gets. We are using a 90 mesh to catch the cooking grade and 25 mesh for the full melt. I get 2 grams of cooking grade for every 1 gram of full melt. We're saving all the cooking grade for when my wife starts up the edibles collective. She wants to cook only with hash to ensure consistant doses. The full melt goes out to members. The last batch was gone within hours of being dry.


Question: All the water that is tossed making ice water hash has got to be loaded with nutrients. Has anyone considered using that water to make tea? We use alfalfa extract...why not weed extract? The water is a dark tea color. I didn't think to test PPM or PH. I think we'll save it next time and try feeding back to a couple plants. Anyone have an opinion on this???
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Your 25 is the full melt, and 90 is cooking grade? You sure you didn't type that backwards?
 
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collective gardener said:
I noticed the same thing. I've never seen weight put on so quick as with the Yellow Bottle Final. I've been playing with the timing a bit. If you apply too early certain strains will foxtail on you. The best time seems to be in concert with the flush. Any earlier and the plant can actually start growing new pistils...not good for bag appeal. Everyone I've talked to that has used as directed on bottle has encountered serious foxtailing.
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i just used it on my last one. no foxtail. i used 4ml per gal. of the final and 4 ml per gal of over drive on weeks 6 and 7 with nothing else mixed in. flushed with tap water week 8. it came out really good in my opinion but then again its my first time growing.
 
Someguy15

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Wolverine97 said:
Your 25 is the full melt, and 90 is cooking grade? You sure you didn't type that backwards?
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I'd say it really depends on strain. I have found that the indica strains have slightly larger trichs, so the 73-90 range seems to be the best...but the sativas have the smaller trichs so the 25 seems to be the full melt bag.
 
Chadness

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collective gardener said:
Closer to 80k when all was and and done. It's really not that much when you figure out how much all of our members save. Dispensary retail prices are around $350/oz. Our reimbursement changes with our running costs, but runs around $200/oz. Part of that cost is the loan payment.

When the City of Oakland was offering the 4 large scale commercial growing permits, they were charging 1 million per permit. The grows being considered were in the 20,000 plant range. Add the cost of building a grow that big to the growing permit and you're looking at several million bucks initial cash layout plus several months of operating costs. Investors were lined up for an chance to loan the money for such an operation. If growing commercially became Federally legal, investment capitol would be no problem. Anyone who could prove commercial growing experience and put together a halfway decent business plan could attract investors easily. I don't believe there to be any limit on the amount of capitol that could be raised.

As to what page the harvest starts, you'll just have to read. I promise you it took me alot more time to write it than it will take you to read it. Man up.
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Amen CG. I am a long time admirer and a small grower in the land down under. Even to grow 8 plants has cost a couple of grand.
Love the inspiration. Thanks.

PS. i have read all 214 pages.
 
Wolverine97

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Someguy15 said:
I'd say it really depends on strain. I have found that the indica strains have slightly larger trichs, so the 73-90 range seems to be the best...but the sativas have the smaller trichs so the 25 seems to be the full melt bag.
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Hmmm... I honestly don't know, I don't ever make bubble hash.
 
mrcokeandcrown

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Why not just do dry ice hash? Was faster an the end product is already
Dry. I've heard people say its more potent but I hardly notice a difference
Besides in color
 
Someguy15

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mrcokeandcrown said:
Why not just do dry ice hash? Was faster an the end product is already
Dry. I've heard people say its more potent but I hardly notice a difference
Besides in color
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Dry ice hash gets too much contaminant in it. While your shaking it all around in the bucket the screen is acting sorta like sand paper... you end up with micro chips of leaf (you have to make dry ice hash with DRY trim) in the hash. You can't see it with your eyes, aside from a slight green hue. But that's why it typically flames up and yaddda yaddda... Unless your doing supercritical fluid extraction with CO2 your making grade c or d hash at best with the bucket and dry ice method. O and don't bother pricing it. The machine u need is about 50g for that lol

http://www.edenlabs.org/supercritical_extraction.html
 
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