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CCGNZ

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I got this in the mail today....
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I'm in MA,there must have been 100 of these things in my mailbox that go directly into the recycle bin and don't even make it into my home over the last yr. or two,since I've left bills in my parents name they think the place is a goldmine where subdivision can occur to build another home and leave the existing home to CASH in thinking 2 90 yr. olds still live there.
 

CCGNZ

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Welp, that's it for me on this site, folks. Until the next national crisis, and I feel the need to talk and read what a good cross-section of internet society are saying. Thanks for the honest dialogue from everybody.

love you all, I just think the conversation is better here when I don't post. Not dishing on the mods, they are doing fine. I don't want to follow the rules as they are enforced here, so, I'm out.
I will miss FogDog,very intelligent contributor,this result is demoralizing,people who voted for such simpleton reasons such as I had more $ in my pocket under Trump are shallow and ignorant.What has become of the majority of people putting this "man" back in power w/the avalanche of red flags. Our moral compass has seemingly eroded to dystopian levels,think back to the salivating the R's did to impeach Clinton over a BJ 30 yrs ago,a transgression that wouldn't even crack Trump's top 100,Damn,Trump even won the pop. vote which is stunning. Guess a majority of Americans have morphed into something I don't understand,30 yrs ago this guy wouldn't get a sniff,he'd be a laughingstock now a savior?CONFOUNDING,I'm flabbergasted,PEACE OUT
 

Nugnewbie

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Confounding yes. So much for "we the people". Guess we'll see how much damage Donnie and his "loyal servants" will do. We'll see if he tries to repeal Obamacare. See if he fires half the federal government and replaces them with loyalists. If he follows through on "mass deportation". These people that were hoping for a few more bucks in their pocket will likely be sadly disappointed (unless of course they are already wealthy). Donnie mismanaged the biggest challenge of his first term, (covid) and people have just forgotten that? If they voted for him because they wanted a "strongman", his strength seems to lie in his criminality and not for character traits that adhere to any decent leadership, but more chaos than anything. What's worse is it seems to be emboldening those who just want to run roughshod on the "others" in society. The campaign illustrated that. If you aren't rich, white, heterosexual male, you are less than and will be treated accordingly in this bend for right wing nationalist populism. Buckle up, the next 4 yrs appear like they could be fraught with chaos.
 

CCGNZ

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Confounding yes. So much for "we the people". Guess we'll see how much damage Donnie and his "loyal servants" will do. We'll see if he tries to repeal Obamacare. See if he fires half the federal government and replaces them with loyalists. If he follows through on "mass deportation". These people that were hoping for a few more bucks in their pocket will likely be sadly disappointed (unless of course they are already wealthy). Donnie mismanaged the biggest challenge of his first term, (covid) and people have just forgotten that? If they voted for him because they wanted a "strongman", his strength seems to lie in his criminality and not for character traits that adhere to any decent leadership, but more chaos than anything. What's worse is it seems to be emboldening those who just want to run roughshod on the "others" in society. The campaign illustrated that. If you aren't rich, white, heterosexual male, you are less than and will be treated accordingly in this bend for right wing nationalist populism. Buckle up, the next 4 yrs appear like they could be fraught with chaos.
Nice take,it's all been said ad-nausea,STRONG,Tough Guy?????What a FKN fake news fantasy,Draft dodging out of shape air bag. I've said before sit down Hillary,Nancy P, and the strong man in front of a foreign intell agency and I"ll bet the house he gives it all up before those two ladies would under duress. The thought of him running roughshod surrounded by 100% yes people suck-ups goes down like a tablespoon of Castor oil,OMG we've witnessed the CON of the century,maybe shooting up some bleach will cure the blues.
 

CCGNZ

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I wore my Army veteran hat to the store today......for the last time. :-( I cannot stand the looks of distain from people who assume all veterans are trump supporters.
Wear you're hat proudly,you served,thanks,I certainly don't assume ALL vets went Trumpian,highly esteemed 4 stars went against their non-partisan political ethics ingrained in them to warn all of us about this troubled man in addition to many who served,it's just that those that did vote Trump confound the mind as draft dodging is right up there w/misrepresenting or lying about serving.Gobbling up Trump's fake macho BS when he has the backbone of a wet noodle and avoided serving is puzzling to those who look at military service as noble and honorable,requiring discipline and sacrifice,words foreign to the Strongman:spew:
 

CCGNZ

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The Dem party needs a overhaul,some very far left views have allowed the R's to paint all D's as ultra liberal radicals. De-fund police and being heavy handed on trans issues don't compute anywhere in rural,midwest and southern states. The R's have painted a dystopian picture of our major cities as modern day Sodom and Gommorahs that has been very effective. I'm a centrist Dem. and am certainly not obtuse to the struggles of gays or trans people but it seems the D party has done what Bernie Sanders alleges,forgotten about it's working class base,nothing against wanting to help those on the margins but the D's allowed the R's to paint those issues as the main ingredient in D doctrine.Look at all the red in the US map,these people aren't ready for such issues yet and put a pycho back in office over visions of decadence in urban areas and a couple more $'s in their pockets which coincidentally had nothing to do w/Trump policies. Me,I'd vote for a watermelon over Donald Trump but the R's have been uncanny in making middle America hate libs,I sure hope they respond to the coming chaos and unfulfilled promises w/ the same vitriol they show for some D policies,CUZ I RECKON THEY BEEN HAD.
 

Billy the Mountain

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The Dem party needs a overhaul,some very far left views have allowed the R's to paint all D's as ultra liberal radicals. De-fund police and being heavy handed on trans issues don't compute anywhere in rural,midwest and southern states. The R's have painted a dystopian picture of our major cities as modern day Sodom and Gommorahs that has been very effective. I'm a centrist Dem. and am certainly not obtuse to the struggles of gays or trans people but it seems the D party has done what Bernie Sanders alleges,forgotten about it's working class base,nothing against wanting to help those on the margins but the D's allowed the R's to paint those issues as the main ingredient in D doctrine.Look at all the red in the US map,these people aren't ready for such issues yet and put a pycho back in office over visions of decadence in urban areas and a couple more $'s in their pockets which coincidentally had nothing to do w/Trump policies. Me,I'd vote for a watermelon over Donald Trump but the R's have been uncanny in making middle America hate libs,I sure hope they respond to the coming chaos and unfulfilled promises w/ the same vitriol they show for some D policies,CUZ I RECKON THEY BEEN HAD.
Agreed, but I'd like to point out something that's often misconstrued. The maps showing vast swaths of the US in red is quite misleading since land doesn't vote. I think this is a more pertinent map of geographic political affiliation.

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lemondroptrichomes

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The Dem party needs a overhaul,some very far left views have allowed the R's to paint all D's as ultra liberal radicals. De-fund police and being heavy handed on trans issues don't compute anywhere in rural,midwest and southern states. The R's have painted a dystopian picture of our major cities as modern day Sodom and Gommorahs that has been very effective. I'm a centrist Dem. and am certainly not obtuse to the struggles of gays or trans people but it seems the D party has done what Bernie Sanders alleges,forgotten about it's working class base,nothing against wanting to help those on the margins but the D's allowed the R's to paint those issues as the main ingredient in D doctrine.Look at all the red in the US map,these people aren't ready for such issues yet and put a pycho back in office over visions of decadence in urban areas and a couple more $'s in their pockets which coincidentally had nothing to do w/Trump policies. Me,I'd vote for a watermelon over Donald Trump but the R's have been uncanny in making middle America hate libs,I sure hope they respond to the coming chaos and unfulfilled promises w/ the same vitriol they show for some D policies,CUZ I RECKON THEY BEEN HAD.
“Hate libs” is a strong term. More many Rs do not like D politicians and judges. It seems since the election a lot of D voters are posting nasty videos directed at R voters, but I wonder how many R and D actually hate each other vs just disagree with each other and get along in other aspects of life.

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CCGNZ

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Agreed, but I'd like to point out something that's often misconstrued. The maps showing vast swaths of the US in red is quite misleading since land doesn't vote. I think this is a more pertinent map of geographic political affiliation.

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Yes it's a little misleading,but even blue states like mine MA saw Trump make gains which is amazing,if your not making at least 200k yearly,what the hell are these people voting R for? The only compassion in the present R party is for people who own million dollar vacation homes that they occupy for 2 weeks a yr. not people considering stretching a buck buy passing on name brand groceries. I don't get it,it doesn't have to be about hate,we have huge debt and the rich's lives won't change at all by paying some more tax,it's that simple,there is NO trickle down. I see a lot of wealth at my job and they have to pay more tax,they owe it to a country that has provided a lifestyle that 90+% of us only dream about. That is how it has to be put to them not a hatred,jealousy thing but as a duty,some got rich out of hard work, brilliance and it's OK to acknowledge that, one main reason Trump sucks is that he thrives on pitting people against each other,we're Americans and this adversarial shit only benefits enemies and opportunists
 

CCGNZ

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“Hate libs” is a strong term. More many Rs do not like D politicians and judges. It seems since the election a lot of D voters are posting nasty videos directed at R voters, but I wonder how many R and D actually hate each other vs just disagree with each other and get along in other aspects of life.

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Politics can be poison,seems the rise of the Donald has obliterated a valuable virtue called "Common Sense" across the board
 

lemondroptrichomes

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Politics can be poison,seems the rise of the Donald has obliterated a valuable virtue called "Common Sense" across the board
thats funny because Trumps campaign specifically stated democrats have lost common sense and he is running on common sense.

Then the voters chose him…..and as of this morning it’s looking certain the house and the senate are also R
 

Nugnewbie

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If the the values of D's and R's were the same, then common sense would be just that, common or alike. Because many of the values of the parties and it's constituents differ; what is common sense for some, are nonsense for the other.

It seems to me D's values are generally more compassionate than R's. Donnie's take on immigration is "mass deportation", (immigrants are poisoning the blood of our country), whereas D's are more concerned with asylum, and paths to citizenship. R's policy on healthcare is a more privatized system that serves people who can afford it, whereas D's would be more inclined to try establish healthcare for all, regardless of economic circumstances.

Donnie is a populist. People, for whatever reason really like him. Incumbents all over the world have been losing elections because of the pain covid wrought on their economies. Donnie kept using the economic pain that the world went through to sow doubt. I guess we'll see how he does this term, but if Musk is correct, the people will see economic pain as a feature, not a bug. R's are all about consolidating wealth among the wealthy, so that's likely what we'll see. If I was rich and an asshole, I'd be quite happy with this election. I don't see help coming at all for those in need. A measure of a civil country is how it takes care of its vulnerable. Trickle down economics has proven to be a fallacy. More money in the hands of wealthy people will not help anyone. They already have enough, and have no desire to help others.
 

Dboybudz

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all of those women you named in his direct sphere are women of extreme privilege. gabbard is the only one that could be seen as a lay person with an upbringing even remotely close to mine. go out and talk to women who don't have wealth like his daughters, family status like his CoS, extreme beauty like his wives (which is a huge social currency asset), or other such things. why is it so easy to dismiss that millions of people have fear about the precedent that he sets for how women are treated? he literally made a mockery of sexual assault, laughing about groping a woman. as someone who's literally had that EXACT scenario happen to her, and on other occasions had much worse happen, the "you're going to be fine" feels really dismissive.

now, eight years later after the infamous tape that was dismissed as "oh that's just locker room talk, don't worry!" we're seeing misogyny on open display. like, dudes are wearing tshirts in public with shit like that image, and aren't doing it ironically. maybe i was living under a rock before 2016, but i don't recall ever hearing anyone say that women shouldn't be able to vote and now it's come across my attention twice in two weeks. can you not see that the two things are related? i'm not saying trump himself wants to repeal the 19th or that he is my personal boogeyman. what i'm trying to show is that he is giving permission and setting a very low bar for how to treat women. and EVERYone with decency and integrity should be calling that out for what it is, and not giving him a free pass because you like his policies on "illegals." fringe stuff can slip into mainstream stuff in just a generation or two.
Yea I wished Tulsi gabbard was running I would of voted for her in a second. She really seems like she cares for this country. I'm sorry you're feeling this way,sucks. I can't stand misogyny in this world. Just prey for the best is all we can do i guess this point. Hopefully you feel better soon. ;) :peace:
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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Wenatchee is nice town. Nearby Leavenworth is a really neat town...The whole town looks like Bavaria...
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Yes. I know that town very well. We would frequently stop there on passing by my way to work every week. . German Bratwurst’s in the outdoor beer garden and the Enchantment lakes up in the mountains. The Christmas display is so enchanting.
 

doublejj

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Time to buy stocks in private prison companies.....
Trump's Planned Immigrant Purge Sends Stagnant Private Prison Stocks Soaring
"The GEO Group was built for this unique moment... and the opportunity that it will bring," said the firm's chair.

The chairperson of a leading U.S. private prison corporation on Thursday gushed over the "unprecedented opportunity" presented by the prospect of Republican President-elect Donald Trump delivering on his campaign promise to begin the mass deportation of unauthorized immigrants on his first day in office.
 

doublejj

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Elon Musk suggests support for replacing democracy with government of ‘high-status males’

The theory suggests that the only people able to think freely are ‘high [testostrone] alpha males’ and ‘aneurotypical people’

 
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