40 yo seeds.

Blue_Focus

Blue_Focus

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wallywonks said:
They look in good shape for being 40 yrs old. I got some seeds from someone that was over 30 yrs old. I got 20 each of 3 strains. I've had some Germ but only 1 actually went full term and luckily it was a female. Was a Big Bud from 1989. It produced 1 seed which im growing now. The smoke was really good too.

I say it's possible but you may need to scuff the seed and/or use hydrogen peroxide to stimulate the embryo if it's still ok. The Big Bud tha I got to make it was mutated at seedling stage and looked like it wasn't going to survive but it grew out of the mutation

This is the Big Bud 1989 seed I'm growing that came from the old Big Bud 1989 seed I grew earlier this year.

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i did do the water + hydrogen peroxide soak before I placed them into the soil.

I'm hoping for both male and female so I can get seeds that will probably grow ok. And to also get pollen for future experimenting. :D
 
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wallywonks

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Blue_Focus said:
i did do the water + hydrogen peroxide soak before I placed them into the soil.

I'm hoping for both male and female so I can get seeds that will probably grow ok. And to also get pollen for future experimenting. :D
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Yeh I feel ya. I'm going to take cuttings of this Big Bud 1989 so I can keep growing it. I want to grow this one in a 4X4 all by itself although I don't feel like transplanting from 7 gal to 15gal ppt. Idk how the hell anyone can do that. Just doing a 3gal to 7 gal was a PITA lol.
 
bfcrew

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wallywonks said:
They look in good shape for being 40 yrs old. I got some seeds from someone that was over 30 yrs old. I got 20 each of 3 strains. I've had some Germ but only 1 actually went full term and luckily it was a female. Was a Big Bud from 1989. It produced 1 seed which im growing now. The smoke was really good too.

I say it's possible but you may need to scuff the seed and/or use hydrogen peroxide to stimulate the embryo if it's still ok. The Big Bud tha I got to make it was mutated at seedling stage and looked like it wasn't going to survive but it grew out of the mutation

This is the Big Bud 1989 seed I'm growing that came from the old Big Bud 1989 seed I grew earlier this year.

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It looks really healthy; no major scrawnies like something from old seeds usually brings?
 
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wallywonks

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bfcrew said:
It looks really healthy; no major scrawnies like something from old seeds usually brings?
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Usually the outer coating of the seeds flake off so the tiger stripes are mostly if not all gone. Although they may not have been handled and still look newer.
 
conor c

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wallywonks said:
They look in good shape for being 40 yrs old. I got some seeds from someone that was over 30 yrs old. I got 20 each of 3 strains. I've had some Germ but only 1 actually went full term and luckily it was a female. Was a Big Bud from 1989. It produced 1 seed which im growing now. The smoke was really good too.

I say it's possible but you may need to scuff the seed and/or use hydrogen peroxide to stimulate the embryo if it's still ok. The Big Bud tha I got to make it was mutated at seedling stage and looked like it wasn't going to survive but it grew out of the mutation

This is the Big Bud 1989 seed I'm growing that came from the old Big Bud 1989 seed I grew earlier this year.

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You ever reproduce em in seed hit me up i been looking for proper big bud without the skunk in it and everyone that sells it now dont sell the old line they all sell big skunk labelled as big bud instead of actual s1s of the pnw cut or even the salmon creek cut which is just a good old sensi one
 
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wallywonks

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conor c said:
You ever reproduce em in seed hit me up i been looking for proper big bud without the skunk in it and everyone that sells it now dont sell the old line they all sell big skunk labelled as big bud instead of actual s1s of the pnw cut or even the salmon creek cut which is just a good old sensi one
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This is what she looks like after topping a week ago. She's not really stretching her main stem yet. She's staying short. Edges of the leaves look more jaggy then strains I've grown too.

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Phytoplankton

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Blue_Focus said:
Back in the early 80's I saved the seeds from a baggie of pot that was the best I'd ever had back then. They have been stored in an airtight container and in a dark space in my basement.

I wonder if I should try them or is it hopeless?
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Try crushing a couple and see if there's any "meat" in them. If there is, there's hope, if they are empty or severely dried out, not so good. Drop a few in a shotglass of water, you should see them crack and little white tails emerge within a week.
 
Blue_Focus

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Phytoplankton said:
Try crushing a couple and see if there's any "meat" in them. If there is, there's hope, if they are empty or severely dried out, not so good. Drop a few in a shotglass of water, you should see them crack and little white tails emerge within a week.
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I did crack two of them and clipped the pointy end with clippers on four. If that doesn't work. I'll try the sandpaper tube trick.

I've been doing research on how to revive old seeds. But most info I found is that older seeds can take longer to grow. Up to two weeks before they pop their heads up.
 
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wallywonks

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Phytoplankton said:
Try crushing a couple and see if there's any "meat" in them. If there is, there's hope, if they are empty or severely dried out, not so good. Drop a few in a shotglass of water, you should see them crack and little white tails emerge within a week.
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With some of my 30 yr old ones had a white tail come out sometimes it still had that green cover on the taproot and then they stopped growing
 
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Budget Buds

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Paper towel germ them, Might take a while but you'll get some to pop.....40 years is a long time but they've gotten 2000 year old seeds germed before so I'm sure you can get those to pop too :)
 
conor c

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wallywonks said:
With some of my 30 yr old ones had a white tail come out sometimes it still had that green cover on the taproot and then they stopped growing
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Yeah i find this happens lots with old ones they easy enough to pop just they so low on energy reserves they just give up it seems with those ones so far gone embryo rescue is the only option i think
 
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Improving Seed Germination by Cold Atmospheric Plasma

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Emerging cold plasma treatment and machine learning prospects for seed priming: a step towards sustainable food production - PMC

Seeds are vulnerable to physical and biological stresses during the germination process. Seed priming strategies can alleviate such stresses. Seed priming is a technique of treating and drying seeds prior to germination in order to accelerate the ...
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Blue_Focus

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Drop That Sound said:
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Improving Seed Germination by Cold Atmospheric Plasma

Cold atmospheric plasma (CAP) is a tunable source of reactive species and other physical factors. It exerts luxuriant biochemical effects on diverse cells, including bacterial cells, mammalian cells, and plant cells. Over the past decade, CAP has shown promising application in modern...
www.mdpi.com www.mdpi.com

Emerging cold plasma treatment and machine learning prospects for seed priming: a step towards sustainable food production - PMC

Seeds are vulnerable to physical and biological stresses during the germination process. Seed priming strategies can alleviate such stresses. Seed priming is a technique of treating and drying seeds prior to germination in order to accelerate the ...
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I think that's a little over my budget. :shock:
 
Bakersfield

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IndooorGardnerOhio said:
Ok, This tip is from Gardening FOOD plants, BUT it has worked on 20 year old tomato seeds. 1ML of Humic Acid per 1 Ounce of water, and Soak overnight.

On the 20 year old tomatoes I got a 90% Germ rate with this and i do this with ALL my garden seeds before planting.
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I have some humic acids in powder form from an organic fertilizer company.
Would this work?
I have some 2005-ish Blueberry Blast seeds, that I'm trying to pop.
 
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IndooorGardnerOhio

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Bakersfield said:
I have some humic acids in powder form from an organic fertilizer company.
Would this work?
I have some 2005-ish Blueberry Blast seeds, that I'm trying to pop.
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Yep Mix it in distilled water till you hit a 25% solution, you can do this by weight, Weight out your water, divide by 4 and add that much powder to the water and mix well
 
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